Talk:Omertà
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[edit] Omerta book?
Who added it? What is it? and when is the artical going to be created? Jman8088 15:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Don't erase info
Do not erase the definition of Omerta by Rick. He is a decendant of mafia members, and there are THREE references to the same thing.It may not be 100% a perfect defenetion it is a GERERALY ACCEPTED view of the topic. User:Jman8088 Dec. 27, 2006. 11:41
- I would be appreciated if you would temper your tone a bit. The fact that your contribution was removed indicates that it is not generally accepted. However, your intervention urged me to find a better definition. I have inserted a more academic one for the following reasons:
- as you indicate yourself it is not a 100% perfect definition;
- it is a very crude and oversimplified description of the phenomenon of omertà, inconsistent with the rest of the article which gives a much more nuanced description;
- there is no “law of omertà”; mafiosi do not make laws, they only break them;
- I can give you a dozen better definitions from more reliable sources than the ‘novel’ of ‘Rick’ (your definition reads more like an advertisement for a particular book);
- as you can see in the new version of the article, Porrello’s definition is not very original but goes back to one of the first Mafia researchers, Antonio Cutrera, a former officer of public security, in 1900.
- I kept Porrello’s definition as a “popular” one (and added the right reference for the book including the publisher, as well as the page were the definition can be found, as well as the right ISBN number, which apparently was too much trouble for you to do).
- I did remove the reference to the Lamb of God song. In a previous version of the article mentioning one heavy metal band led to an avalanche of other bands who yelled omerta in one of their songs. It does not add anything significant and I suggest you include it in the article about Lamb of God, where it is more appropriate. Thanks for your cooperation. - Mafia Expert 21:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I understand your hesitation to The Pop. Ref., I'll regurally check it for vandilism or a massive influx of unneccisary references. Jman8088 15:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Who erased the omerta in popular culture?
It read:
In Popular Culture
The American metal band Lamb of God has a song by the title of "Omerta" (the lack of accent should be noted) that is about a break in "Omertà". The opening of the song contains a paraphrased version of Omertà.
"Omerta" was the title of episode 9 in series 3 of the TV show Millennium, which featured an executed mafioso found alive many years later, who remained silent on how he had survived.
Omerta is refered to in the Sopranos 6th season episode, "Johnny Cakes." It was brought up by Dr. Melfi's own psychiatrist, in reference to Tony Soprano remaining silent after being shot by Junior Soprano. She ultimately stated she did not believe it was due to Omerta, but rather "something else."
I think this should really be brought back, minus the lamb of god reference. 67.86.77.111 05:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
The pop culture section is back. Do not erase it. The LoG reference stands. They are a grammy-nominated band, and, therefore, reputable band. JMan8088 21:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. DChase1 00:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)