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Contents 1 Initial comments 2 Restructuring the template/Usage of the rings 3 Footnotes 4 Table width 5 Confusing layout

[edit] Initial comments

To whoever made this, are 1916, 1940, and 1944 Olympic years or War years (and I want the proper answer.) 66.245.95.169 18:18, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

This question has been on for 3 days and it still hasn't been answered. 66.32.64.27 22:02, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

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1906 Olympics were official until they were deaccreditted later by the IOC. 1908, 1920 did have Winter Olympic Events in the same vein as the 1924 Winter Olympics. The 1924 Winter Olympics were not Winter Olympics until the IOC retroactively decided to make it so. So, shouldn't they be there?

132.205.45.148 04:30, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Those sorts of details would be well suited to the articles themselves. such as Winter Olympics and 1906 Summer Olympics, however the template is designed for simplicity, and such extra information makes the template less readible/less usable. -- Chuq 04:37, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hopefully, this version is clear.

132.205.45.148 04:53, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It's more clear.. but a bit more bulky.. I'll leave it for a while and see what others think -- Chuq 05:23, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I've trimmed the footnotes down a bit. If somebody wants to know the exact details behind each of the disputed or cancelled games, then that information should be in the articles, but the infobox itself is just a navigation aid, and shouldn't stand out on the page. sjorford →•← 11:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Restructuring the template/Usage of the rings

I don't think this template should have the Olympic rings on it for these reasons:

1. Because it violates the fair use agreement with the IOC; and
2. Because it, frankly, makes the template unappealing.

I suggest restructuring it, maybe deleting the image or atleast making it smaller, and adding a link to the medal counts, as they are important. Also, at the bottom, maybe a navigation thing showing previous, present, and future games. I'll try to come up with my idea and maybe we'll impliment it if enough people think it'd look good. --J@red ^[T]/_[+] 14:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Here is my design. Its not much different, but it adds key elements to the template that are much needed. I created a color and a non-color version of each. I'm not partial to either one over the other:

{{User:JP06035/Olympic_Games}}

Olympic Games Olympic sports Olympic medalists Participating NOCs Olympic symbols Medal counts		Summer Olympic Games 1896, 1900, 1904, 19061, 1908, 1912, (1916)2, 1920, 1924, 1928, 1932, 1936, (1940)2, (1944)2, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012
		Winter Olympic Games 1924, 1928, 1932, 1936, (1940)2, (1944)2, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014
		Torino 2006 — Beijing 2008 — Vancouver 2010 — London 2012

{{User:JP06035/Olympic_Games_(no_color)}}

Olympic Games Olympic sports Olympic medalists Participating NOCs Olympic symbols Medal counts		Summer Olympic Games 1896, 1900, 1904, 19061, 1908, 1912, (1916)2, 1920, 1924, 1928, 1932, 1936, (1940)2, (1944)2, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012
		Winter Olympic Games 1924, 1928, 1932, 1936, (1940)2, (1944)2, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014
		Torino 2006 — Beijing 2008 — Vancouver 2010 — London 2012

The colored one is kind of neat because is shows yellow for summer, blue for winter, etc. The other is more practical, though, because it is not as much of an eyesore on the page. Feel free to make suggestions or edit the templates above! --J@red ^[T]/_[+] 16:34, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Footnotes

Concerning the reasons behind my recent edit [1]: What is the point of having superscript numbers if nobody can see the footnotes when the template is transclused onto articles? Do you really think that the average user or newbie will actually go to the actual template page to see the footnotes that are bracketed with NOINCLUDE tags? Zzyzx11 (Talk) 07:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I see your point, but the reason I put the footers on this pages is because it truely makes the template look ugly. Not to mention, the point of the template is not to be a mass of information, but to cram the most links into the smallest space. I am going to revert your edits, but feel free to put that information back into the template if you can find a decent spot for it. I just think that it is not necessary or vital information, and if someone needed to know that badly, I'm sure andone with common sense would either click on the superscript number or on the page itself to read more. Again, feel free to try to reincorperate it if you really think you should and could do so in a good manner. Thanks. → J@red ^talk+ _ubx  20:15, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Why are the footnotes at the top on the template page? Brian Jason Drake 06:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I originally had them at the bottom, but when I went to test out the link, both the <sup[1] and the <sup[2] linked to the same spot on the page because of the fact that the page is so short. I moved them to the top thinking that it would make it actually go to the right links, but it didn't work, because the page is still too short. Feel free to move them to the bottom, then, if you think it would be better. → J@red ^talk+ _ubx  20:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Table width

Somebody just changed the table width from 75% to 76%. What different does this make? Brian Jason Drake 08:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

When I did that, it actually made the template so that it didn't go onto additional rows. It didn't dawn on me until after that it's probably only my computer that'll show it like that because other computers show different resolutions, have different browsers, whatever. So really, it probably makes little to no difference on anyone else's computer. → J@red  14:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing layout

The way this template is set up, it looks like it's categorizing Athens '04 and Torino '06 as "Future" games... --zenohockey 01:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)