Talk:Olivia Benson
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Scenes with a district attorney
Benson has thus far shared a scene with a district attorney twice:
Arthur Branch in the Law & Order: Special Victims Unit episodes "Shaken" and "Goliath".
Could someone explain the significance of this, or why it should be included? Captain Jackson 05:40, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
This sort of information is standard for LaO Character pages. Especially Cops. Part of every show's theme is the trial and the DAs or ADAs are almost always main characters. I'm not sure whose idea it was, But (and forgive me for reversing this on you) can you tell me what is what's wrong with featuring this information? Ace Class Shadow 05:18, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- What is the point of saying that she meet with the District Attorney? In a show about "law and order" it shouldn't be significant enough to mention, meaning that it should just go without saying. Captain Jackson 04:52, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Well, Actually, Not all officiers share scenes with a DA or even an ADA. Plus, It's a point of interest because of the theme, Not in spite of it.
Personally, I find it valid and useful enough as information. It's kind trivial, but then so is the whole page.
And hey, At least it's not a stub. Ace Class Shadow 04:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
It is quite silly to mention it in the first place, let along give it its own section. Captain Jackson 22:06, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Wow. You took a while to reply. Well, the fact is, as trivial as it may seem, people care about this stuff. Especially considering Aruther Branch is currently the universal DA for LaO: Trial by Jury, SVU and the original LaO, it's not like he'll be able to meet with every officer every episode. The given of law and order is that there will be detective work (Although it was slightly lacking in TbJ) and Ledigation.
It cannot be assumed that the detectives will ever, let alone always met with a (A)DA onscreen. Thus, on the rare occasions that Arthur can and does meet up with one of the officiers, It's note worthy. Furthermore, sharing scenes with multiple DAs would probably be a sign of seniority.
To simplify, think of it this way, what would you think of an officer who has made your local DA versus one who has not? Ace Class Shadow 04:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
On Special Victims Unit the detectives meet with the ADA in almost every episode. It looks odd having a section for one sentence, so I'm incorporating it in with the rest of the article. Captain Jackson 07:10, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Scenes with the DA are highly notable, as they are incredibly rare, as are scenes of the DA with the police captain/sergeant. Scenes involving the ADAs and whom they encounter are not included, yet the DA is the chief prosecutor of Manahattan, in this case. The ADAs and police officers often interact with each other. Likewise, as ADAs work for the DA, they are often seen with him or her. It is rare, though, that the DA is in the same room as a police officer or detective. You can typically only find one or two examples of such, and it is quite noteworthy. Michael 03:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Sexuality
Over and over a bit regarding Benson's sexuality has been added and deleted. The episodes alluded to do in fact have a bit of subtext about them, so it doesn't seem like people are trying to slander the show or character, or are just around for controversy. I'm starting to wonder if the paragraph's continual deletion is less about faulty information, and more about homophobia, or something else unsavory.
The paragraph, as it appeared the first time I saw it: To many viewers, Olivia's sexuality is questionable, or at least has been in previous seasons. Some claim there was is subtext to support a romantic relationship between ADA Alexandra Cabot, which may have been deliberately written into the show in order to play on the viewers' suspicions (th. Two of the most heavily subtexted episodes are 5.4, "Loss" and 6.16, "Ghost"). However, with the airing of Season 7, which has been filled with many allusions to dating men and having children (episode 7.3, "911", and 7.8, "Starved"), Detective Benson's orientation is becoming less enigmatic. - Jes
Why was that information about the controversy over Benson's sexuality deleted? Even Dick Wolf, the executive producer, has admitting to toying with the viewers by using subtext. Sweetsasami 08:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- It should be rewritten and then cited Enigmaedge 04:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Please do not violate WP:NOR. Michael 06:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Ahem. Observation is the only way to summarize content on Wikipedia. Original research is more along the lines of making up an entire article. Do not violate misintrepret Wikipedia's policies. BTW, look at Poison Ivy (comics) if you need a better example of why this sort of thing is notible and worthy of inclusion. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 23:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- To include the info. on the character's sexuality, find a source that says it is regarded as ambiguous. The controversy above may stand as a necessity in doing such. Michael 03:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Here is an all right article saying that while she is presumably straight, the show has a good deal of subtext. Which is basically what the deleted paragraph had been saying. http://www.afterellen.com/TV/svu.html
And here's another: http://community.livejournal.com/ship_manifesto/43570.html
Even more speculation can be found at TWoP...
All right, here is a pretty definitive article: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/03/23/DDGHTBSLLF1.DTL It's from the S.F. Chronicle, and not only mentions fans seeing the subtext, but Neal Baer and the writers intentionally adding it to the stories. So, anyone with more Wiki experience than I want to format the whole thing together? --69.92.118.83 18:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC) Novus Questus
[edit] Father
The article currently says Olivia has no idea about who her father is. However, in season 2 or 3, I remember an episode ended with her looking up at the man she believed to be her father sitting by the window in an apartment... Can we get some reference for this? I don't own the box sets, so... ThuranX 00:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- She says that she doesn't think it's him.
[edit] Emmys
Mariska did not win two Emmys.....only one.......I changed this
[edit] Benson speaks English? No kidding.
One of the trivia bylines stated that Olivia spoke English, "as well as some Spanish and French." I was wondering if whomever wrote that meant to say Italian or Hungarian, the latter being Hargitay's own language. Messy Thinking
- Perhaps they were just trying to be thorough. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 01:48, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Info about sexua... oh wait, this is old news
I came to leave a note about this and see it's already a been addressed at #Sexuality above. Anyway, I took out some stuff about fan speculation about a relationship between her and Stabler, since it's not cited or anything. But I took out this whole paragraph:
To many viewers, Olivia's sexuality is questionable,[1] or at least has been in previous seasons. Some claim there was is subtext to support a romantic relationship between ADA Alexandra Cabot, which may have been deliberately written into the show in order to play on the viewers' suspicions. Two of the most heavily subtexted episodes are 5.4, "Loss" and 6.16, "Ghost". However, with the airing of Season 7, which has been filled with many allusions to dating men and having children (episode 7.3, "911", and 7.8, "Starved"), Detective Benson's orientation is becoming less enigmatic.
The paragraph has two sources, but look at them: the first is a website devoted to promoting ideas of lesbian subtext, and the first is a posting from livejournal... doesn't seem real reliable. So, there you have it, any feedback? ScottchS 05:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree, those sources are unreliable. I suppose one of them could work to show that there are many viewers who think that, but that's a streatch. However, thisis an article from the San Francisco Chronicle that has Neal Baer saying that they did intentionally write in subtext between Oliva and Alex. If the info is rewritten to reflect what Baer says, it should meet quality standards. --NovusQuestus 05:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
