Talk:Oldest football club
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[edit] What should be included?
I do see a point in having a single list, so that you can compare country-to-country easier, but on the other hand, if the article should include only a single list, how are we supposed to include countries like Denmark (which did have the first Continental Europe club) and Sweden, which did not see football clubs until the late 1870s and 1880? Should they be added at the bottom or not, and if so, should all other clubs in England/Scotland/Ireland/... be added between them, if not, why should they not be included at all? They do belong in the article, IMHO. Why not have one worldwide list with the first club in each country and category, and then separate lists which includes a few more clubs? -- Elisson • Talk 22:58, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- The point is not only about comparing across countries, it is also about making comparisons across different codes of football. Nationality isn't really relevant. I wouldn't want to see a page with 1,000 clubs on it, and that's why I initially stopped the list in 1864, after which there is an explosion in the number of clubs. I can see the point in including the (one) oldest club in each country (by code) although I think a separate section would be the place to do that. You could also have an Oldest football clubs in Scandinavia article, linked from this one. Grant65 (Talk) 23:23, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Castlemaine
An article in today's The Age newspaper indicates that there is new evidence showing that the Castlemaine Football Club is one month older than the Geelong Football Club, so I have just slipped it underneath the Geelong entry. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 04:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Definition of "oldest". Should defunct clubs be included ?
Perhaps the word "oldest" should be defined better. Clearly if a club no longer exists, then it cannot be considered "old", but more appropriately "dead". This list could become exhaustive if it includes all defunct clubs. Perhaps only the clubs that have some claim to continuous existence should be included here, or limit defunct clubs only to notable ones. --Rulesfan 01:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- There really weren't many clubs at all anywhere before 1870, so I don't think it's going to be a problem. If we exclude defunct clubs, then we are faced with the same definitional problem: is a club defunct if it is inactive for a while? What if it merges with another club, as South Yarra did? Grant | Talk 01:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
