Talk:Olave Baden-Powell

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[edit] Correction on the Jam-Roll

Many people think that the Jam-Roll was a wedding present for B.-P. and Olave. Actually, it was a present for B.-P. given on the 1929 Jamboree, at the same time as he got his peerage. For example, see http://www.thescoutingpages.org.uk/rolls.htm for details. This is why I updated the entry. BTW, I just translated this entry into Italian

--Lou Crazy 03:18, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Attention tag

needs sections. Rlevse 11:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

done. Rlevse 12:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change of Photo Caption

I have significantly changed the caption for the photo of Olave B-P. The previous caption said that it was probably taken by Robert B-P around the time of their marriage. This dates the photo to around 1912. This is incorrect as she is wearing her Silver Fish, awarded in 1918. As the photo corresponds to the photo in Cynthia Forbes' book on Guiding history "1910... and then?", I have amended the date to that given there, 1919. I acknowledge this does not agree with the date given on http://www.olavebadenpowell.org/ for the same photo. That site gives 1918 as the date. Kingbird 15:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] False quotation

I just removed this paragraph:

Lady Powell became rather notorious for stating, at a luncheon in London, that she could 
not bear the Jews and asserting that "everything that was happening to them was their own 
fault."  In response to the shock created by her comment, she stated "oh come on, you all 
feel like that."  (source, Gabriel Schoenfeld, "The Return of Antisemitism" Encounter 
Books (2004), page96).

It should be quite obvious to anyone that this would not be Lady Olave's opinion. Especially since the editor only made this one contribution on Wikipedia... But it is better to check.

On page 96 that book says:

[T]here was also the case of Lady Powell, one of the glossier fixtures on the London 
social-political scene. At a London luncheon, she reportedly explained that she could not 
bear the Jews and asserted that "everything that was happening to them was their own 
fault." When the remark was received with a shocked silence, she remonstrared "oh come on, 
you all feel like that."

Lady Powell. Not Lady Baden-Powell. Maybe a mistake, and it was indeed Lady Olave? Let's check.

This book is well documented, and gives a source. It is an article by Barbara Amiel, which appeared in the Daily Telegraph (London) on December 17, 2001, under the title "Islamists Overplay Their Hand but London Salons Don't See It". It can be read online: [1]

It clearly says that it is talking of events after September 11.

But wait.. Lady Olave was dead in 1977, 24 years before 9/11!

So, it's not her. But we knew it from the beginning.

--Lou Crazy 00:09, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Good catch! Rlevse 11:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Early Life Section

The Early Life section of this article was removed earlier today. It would be better to rewrite the section or move the information to another part of the article. Kingbird 16:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)