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"perhaps the most overlooked" seems a little POV, and I'd like to see some references for the love of 60s music and The Beatles/Brian Wilson bit. I'll come back to clean up and expand this article when I'm a little less tired. Lemme put this link down here for a future reference: [1] I actually just got back from an Of Montreal show, it was great fun. --Andy M. 09:03, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

i edited it to make it clear that "I Felt Like Smashing my Head Through a Clear Glass Window" is a cover. Cometboy 17:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 of Montreal or Of Montreal 2 Was Of Montreal formed in 1997? 3 David Barnes' artwork for Of Montreal 4 Who plays piano? 5 Kevin Barnes? 6 Timeline 7 Hissing Fauna Leak 8 Removed a couple of lines 9 Blikkfang 10 The track "A Cloud Crashes" 11 Lower Case Title 12 Reference in So Begins Our Alabee?

[edit] of Montreal or Of Montreal

I was always under the impression that the official title of the band is "of Montreal", with a lower case "O". Could anyone confirm this? -Deus Homoni 01:03, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

The website has them with the capital O. I've never known them otherwise, either. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 03:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

It's a bit split on their albums listed for sale.[2] --waffle iron 04:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

It's a bit split on their actual albums, too. Between the fact that the actual article is going to be capitalized per mediawiki shortcomings and the website, I don't think it needs to be moved, but I won't argue much more in either direction. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 04:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

With the exception of the website ("Of Montreal") it is usually "of Montreal". Of the six CDs I own, it is printed as "of Montreal" on all but the Sunlandic Twins ("of montreal"). The Bird Who Continues to Eat the Rabbit's Flower" contains a handwritten note from Kevin, in which he writes "of Montreal". I think lowercase wins. --Icecreamfundae 05:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)icecreamfundae

I changed the "Of"s to "of"s. I think it's more correct, and I'm a big fan of accuracy.Icecreamfundae 05:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I agree that "of" is more accurate. --TM 06:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I notice the main article's name has been changed to the lower case spelling. I thought you couldn't begin article titles with lower case due to technical restrictions?--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 13:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

We can now. :) JonasRH 15:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Was Of Montreal formed in 1997?

Can anyone confirm that? I reckon it could be hard to determine when exactly the band Of Montreal was formed, but given that Cherry Peel was recorded from January to February 1997 ([3]), I thought that sounded a little queer. Any details would be appreciated. :) JonasRH 19:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, sorry, I found the answer myself ([4]). Bad research. :) It should've been included in this article anyway. Hm. :) JonasRH 22:36, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

of Montreal was formed in fall of 1996. I know, because bp told me.--Icecreamfundae 05:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Barnes' artwork for Of Montreal

Regarding The Gay Parade: "(...)it also featured artwork from Kevin's brother David Barnes, who would continue to do artwork for future albums." Is that right? I remember reading that the second Of Montreal album featured artwork by David Barnes, which would be The Bedside Drama (or The Bird Who Ate the Rabbit's Flower?). I dunno if there's any more truth in that, though. JonasRH 00:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll be honest, I went by what Elephant 6.com had to say, and that was the first mention. I don't have all of OM's albums yet (sigh) and hadn't been able to check. If it's correct earlier, then please change it, but I just wanted to at least make sure David got a proper link. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 01:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

He continues to do all the artwork in the albums. In previous promotional material/official photos he has been listed as a band member, although he doesn't write, perform or tour with them. See the 'closer look' section of his website for details on recent album covers. [5] --waffle iron 04:45, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Who plays piano?

Who does all that crazy piano work on Coquelicot? PrettyMuchBryce 11:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I think Dottie was with them at that point. --badlydrawnjeff talk 19:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I just checked the album notes and Coquelicot did have Dottie on the keys. It was recorded during the "everyone lives in a big house together" stage of the band. It should be noted, though, that Kevin wrote and played "The Hopeless Opus."[6] --sigmafactor 21:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. So shes not in the band anymore is that why they never play these songs live anymore? PrettyMuchBryce 01:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Dottie is still in the band. I'm pretty sure Kevin Barnes controls the set lists, so you would have to ask him. --sigmafactor 01:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

they don't playthe songs anymore because a) Kevin claims they've forgotten a lot of them, and b) with the recent success, few people at the shows remember them. Before Satanic Panic came out they were playing them, so it's a new thing. --badlydrawnjeff talk 02:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

That is what I've gotten from Kevin when I've talked to him. Thankfully the band is playing a few songs from the pre-SPitA albums. I attribute it to the fact that songs that have personal lyrics are getting more time, as opposed to the concent album stage where the opposite was true. While I would love to hear a couple tracks off of the Gay Parade live, they would sound a bit out of place. --sigmafactor 02:19, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

That sucks. I think they should atleast play 'Hello from inside a shell' live. Its such an amazingly written song with such an original chord structure. Anyways thanks for answering my questions guys. I am going to order the sunlandic twins today. I hope I'm not disappointed. It's also cool to hear that Kevin is so accessible. I don't really know much about the band or how popular they are. I kind of assumed they were pretty big for some reason. PrettyMuchBryce 12:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Kevin is accessable because not many people recognize him before the shows. I've been to six concerts and no one goes up to him until after they see the band on stage. They tour so much they are getting a big following, though. They are also very big in Montreal, despite not being from there. --sigmafactor 15:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin Barnes?

Why does Kevin Barnes redirect to of Montreal? Surely he is notable enough to have his own article.

Not per WP:MUSIC I think. And there isn't really much worth putting on that page that can't be mentioned in this article. --TM 22:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline

It seems as though the timeline is out of order. I'm going to do my best to fix it (with supported research).Icecreamfundae 04:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hissing Fauna Leak

The band's latest album, due out in 2007, has been leaked onto the closed BitTorrent site OiNK (http://oink.me.uk). Since it's a closed site, it's unverifiable. Is there any other way to include this information in the article? Yavoh 23:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but the album being leaked isn't too noteworthy, it's quite common these days. --TM 00:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Dying is pretty common too but I still see it in steve erwin's article. Leaking is notable.

Hardly notable, an album leaking is largely trivial in most circumstances; a death is not. A death makes a real difference in a person's life (i.e., it ends,) while leaking does not usually. One notable exception is Radiohead - Kid A, which leaked and gathered a lot of attention. This didn't.

I don't think the leak is significant enough to be included.--Icecreamfundae 06:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed a couple of lines

I removed the following from the article: "There has been some resistance to the title of this album. It has been incorrectly called "The Guy Parade" by numerous sellers, including at one point, but no longer, Apple's iTunes." Firstly because a Google search returns very few results, and those returned are mostly from Wikipedia (with mirrors) or comments from of Montreal-fans who have noticed Apple's misspelling. That makes me doubt there are "numerous" sellers calling it "The Guy Parade". Secondly because it isn't very relevant information IMHO (but you could try the album article). :-) JonasRH 09:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Thank you.--Icecreamfundae 06:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blikkfang

Does anybody know anymore information about Blikkfang? I have looked it up and it seems to be some sort of place in Oslo but i cant read anything about it because it is all written in norwegian

Blikkfang is a Norwegian word used mostly in advertising. It refers the kind of ads, or possibly which part of the ads, which catches the viewers attention. A huge ad in a newspaper with a lot of air around some small, centered object would have a good blikkfang; the same would a naked person or lots of strong colours. I dunno if it's a place called that too. --JonasRH 06:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The track "A Cloud Crashes"

This track is actually of Montreal's cover of the Japanese band ToastGirl's "Chopsticks," which appears on Toast Girl's album Chopsticks best[7]. This has been verified by several board members at the of Montreal board at e6townhall, and is mentioned on Optical Atlas, the elephant 6 blog [8].

[edit] Lower Case Title

I greatly disapprove of the lower case title of this article. Since the "Of" is part of the band's name, it deserves capitalisation. It is incredibly irritating to see it like this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nick Kalivoda (talk • contribs) 20:46, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

Please see the discussion above concerning why lower case is used. --TM 20:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reference in So Begins Our Alabee?

I've heard from several people that the "Alabee" in that song is Kevin Barnes' daughter, Alabee. Apparently the "bouyant cherub" and "mousy aesthete" stuff is about her. I've looked all over but I can't find a source, can anyone confirm this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Beep Beep Honk Honk (talk • contribs) 02:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC).