Talk:Oberon Zell-Ravenheart

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Contents 1 Copyvio 2 Starwood Festival 3 Proper form of name(s)? 4 Cleanup

[edit] Copyvio

It looks like text of this is a copyright violation from http://www.caw.org/clergy/oberon/ (i.e. its a direct cut and past of the text). For the article to survive in wikipedia it will need to be rewritten in our own words.

I re-wrote it; the text as it originally appeared here was written by Oberon about himself in the third person for the CAW website.

Davidkevin 07:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm also not sure about the statement one of the founders of deep ecology movement. We would need third part sources for this. --Salix alba (talk) 22:40, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Starwood Festival

Please cease inserting the Starwood Festival into the body of the article. Ven. Zell-Ravenheart's connection to it is simply as a guest speaker and attendee, not as an organizer, and it is not relevant to the article beyond the list of festivals at which he has spoken which appears at the bottom of the article. Thank you.

Davidkevin 19:36, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Davidkevin, do you think it's appropriate to list the events, or isn't it more listcruft than than encyclopedic? I think it's listcruft. He's been appearing at events for over thirty years. Who decides which appearances are important enough to be included? ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 02:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

There must be SOME way to decide what items are "important enough" to be on a list, and IMO lectures and workshops presented at SOME venues must be notable; he spends a significant amount of his career travelling around the world doing them on a professional basis. I see no reason to assume that a radio appearance is necessarily more important than several appearances at a major event, for instance; he's been doing them for 30 years as well. How about this: a public appearance list can consist of events notable enough to have their own Wikipedia articles. Is that not reasonable? What else is needed: 3rd party citations? A clear connection to the subject's field of expertise? Repeat appearances? What? Rosencomet 18:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proper form of name(s)?

In this and the Morning Glory Zell-Ravenheart article, sometimes the last two name are hyphenated, other times not. Which is it, officially? ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 02:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, I took a look at the Mythic Images website, and he's using the hyphen. So, once I do the cleanup on this I'm going to move the page (assuming there are not objections :-)). ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 02:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Page moved. I decided to do it via cut and paste rather than the move function, so as to avoid even temporary problems with the redirects. Adjust your bookmarks and return tray tables to upright positions. I'll also do link repair on other articles. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

The subject of this article has contributed a great deal to the Pagan community, among other cultural areas. Yet the article reads like a farily brief promo/bio blurb followed by listcruft. I'm going to be bold here and start the cleanup. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 02:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Fairly major rewrite done, plus sourcing and NPOV-ing. Largely sourced from Adler, though could also source from back issues of GE if needed. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Where can the original text of this (or these) articles be viewed? It seems to me that some information is missing, and I'd like to review the text. (For instance, where is the "Living Unicorn" material?) This seems rather drastic without all editors being able to see the extent of your "fairly major rewrite". Rosencomet 19:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Page history for Oberon Zell Ravenheart ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 20:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)