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[edit] O'Reilly edit

Re: the Bill O'Reilly page, I only had a problem with the implication that political independents are not controversial. I think your new edit is good, and an improvement. I wouldn't be surprised if another editor objected to the word "controversial" in the introduction. We'll see. Welcome to Wikipedia by the way. Rhobite 01:49, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I originally didn't quite say what I meant.

If someone challenged the word "controversial," I wouldn't be surprised. However, I think it would be an unjust challenge. A controversey is merely "a discussion marked especially by the expression of opposing views" according to Merriam-Webster. There are many opposing views to O'Reilly and he draws quite a bit of lightning. Hence, I think he can properly be described as controversial. In fact, he feeds off of controversey to make a living. I think he himself would consider it to be a compliment.

[edit] O'Reilly 2

Hi, I've reverted your changes to Bill O'Reilly (commentator)--see the edit summary for my justification. Feel free to take it up on the talk page if you disagree--I'm happy to work with you. Just didn't want to drive you off--you've been doing some fine work (I logged off this morning, logged on again at midnight, and you were still here). Cheers, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 07:12, 2004 Aug 25 (UTC)

OK, I will add a comment on the talk page.

[edit] Thanks

And actually, I've been meaning to drop you a note about how impressed I've been with your editing. Wolfman 20:43, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] SBVT

Oops! My bad - link has been corrected - here it is here also

Rex071404 20:52, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Oops! My bad - link has been corrected - here it is here also

Rex071404 20:51, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Nysus, sorry for the accidental revert. I was just about to fix it when you did so. This kind of thing is likely to happen when Rex is making so many edits. JamesMLane 06:36, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

No problem. I figured it was an error. --Nysus 06:39, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] I see you like my USA flag .gif

I've moved on to "happy joe", but please don't be offended if I use USA flag again from time to time.

Ps: Kudos to you GW1, vet!

[[User:Rex071404|Rex071404 Image:Happyjoe.jpg ]] 07:20, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Your repeated vandalism at SBVT

As promised, I have reported you for vandalism. [[User:Rex071404|Rex071404 Image:Happyjoe.jpg ]] 16:36, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I didn't think that charge would stick. Thankfully, someone had the sense to remove your baseless charge from that page. But I was hoping you did the honorable thing and removed it yourself. Nysus 19:43, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] SBVT

copied from user talk:Mirv

Hi, Mirv. I've tried and tried to get my compromise langauge discussed so we can move forward but I am having little success. I don't know what else to do. Please advise. --Nysus 03:38, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well, you've requested comment, which will help get other editors involved and perhaps break the deadlock; if that fails you can ask for a mediator. —No-One Jones 03:43, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
OK, thanks. --Nysus 03:45, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
You asked, "I am wondering if others are finding Rex's edits as disruptive as I am or if I'm the only one?" My answer is that I find Rex's entire editing style to be extraordinarily disruptive. The only advice I can give you is that you not try to explain Wikipedia procedure or the process of collaborative editing to him. Based on my experience, I'd say such efforts are a waste of time. JamesMLane 06:36, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Well James, I would agree with you except to say that the only thing we have in this world is hope. I can only hope that one day Rex will come around. Otherwise, we are all doomed to beating our heads against the wall forever. That's an outcome I'm doing my best to try to avoid. --Nysus 06:40, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
A month or so ago I was in exactly that position with regard to trying to work on the John Kerry article. I finally decided that to continue to hope was unrealistic. Others came to the same conclusion. The result was an arbitration proceeding, and although it's still ongoing, the ArbCom has temporarily blocked Rex from editing John Kerry and two related pages. So, at least to that extent, we've stopped beating our heads against the wall. We may need to consider going back to the ArbCom to ask them to expand the remedy. JamesMLane 14:45, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't realize he had such a track record. Thanks for letting me know. It's guys like Rex that raise a question in my mind about what will happen to Wiki as it gets more popular and attracts more and more folks who have similar tendencies toward disruptive behavior. Right now, he's outnumbered. But what happens when more level headed folks get outnumbered? I fear they will throw up their arms in frustration and find something else to do with their time. I think eventually, the wiki software will have to introduce some kind of rating system for editors to keep diruptive folks in check.
Wiki is a lot like e-mail and is based on a system of trust. And we have all seen what happened as a result. It takes just a handful of bad apples to ruin it for everyone. Cliche but true. --Nysus 16:32, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
In the early stages of the discussion about how to handle Rex's obstructionism on the John Kerry article, one of the editors involved told me gloomily that the ArbCom had the power to issue a temporary block, but probably wouldn't do it, and that the full proceeding would drag on for months, during which we'd have the choice of (1) spending huge amounts of time in constant fights with Rex over the tiniest detail, or (2) abandoning the field to him and letting him turn the article into an anti-Kerry rant. Well, it turned out that the ArbCom did impose a temporary block. More generally, I think other people are concerned about the tendency you describe. There's a growing feeling that we need to do more to curb abusive users. For example, a pending policy proposal to facilitate blocks by a single admin garnered majority support, though not enough to be called consensus; I think it may be modified, to take account of the objections voiced, and presented again.
Returning to the specific case of Rex, my concern has been that the ArbCom still has before it the original RfAr. (See the links on my user page if you want to wade through all that's gone down in that proceeding.) When Rex began exhibiting his same old style on the SBVT page, it seemed better to let the ArbCom finish chewing over one set of problems before going back to them with a new complaint. Also, Rex will of course return to his cherished theme that other people are "ganging up" on him. At this point, I'm still inclined to wait. I fully recognize, however, that, unpleasant and time-consuming as it would be, we may find ourselves with no realistic alternative to starting another arbitration proceeding. JamesMLane 01:43, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Texans

Well, I just removed the links, independently of the rest of you..... read the talk page, saw the discussion, and before I could get to my watchlist again, Rex had reverted it. Lyellin 03:06, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I was just going to send you a thanks before I got caught up responding to Rex. We are making progress. He is at least trying to justify his reverts. Thanks for the help. --Nysus 03:08, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Vulgar Language

Nysus, you said this "this fucking bullshit needs to stop" here. Now I know you probably regret saying that, but all the same, by any interpretation, that comment must be at least as bad (or worse) than the "feces" nose-tweak I made against Neutrality (on my personal talk page - since deleted). Especially if you are trying to paint me as the "loose cannon" you'd probably do better not to swear. That and the fact that you obviously have a wider linquistic panoply than mere vulgarity - I'd expect better from you. [[User:Rex071404|Rex071404 Image:Happyjoe.jpg ]] 03:17, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation

In case you missed it, I have answered your question and have posed (2) questions for you [1] [[User:Rex071404|Rex071404 Image:Happyjoe.jpg ]] 01:52, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

fyi: User_talk:Fred_Bauder#Rex071404 asks you to read his comments implicates you as a sockpuppet

[edit] Welcome back!

Hi, Nysus, I'm glad to see that your absence was only temporary. JamesMLane 03:02, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, did you ever get that e-mail I sent you?
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