Talk:Nueva Germania

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This article says that Mr. Förster shot himself, but Bernhard Förster says that he poisoned himself. Which is correct?

Herzliyya 20:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Ben Macintyre's book says poison.

--Pariah Press 22:43, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Earlier this year I visited the room at beautiful old Hotel del Lago in San Bernardino (a suburb of Asunción), where "Förster's stiffening corpse was found by a terrified maid" (Macintyre). Bernhard Förster had injected himself with a combo of morphine, to which he was addicted, and strychnine. Incidentally, though Förster's storied upper floor death chamber has a lovely arboreal view and private veranda, Hotel del Lago has been using it for over a century now to house janitorial supplies.—Trithemian | an herzliyyaball: morphine/strychnine 10:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inbreeding

I vaguely remember from a TV documentary that the genetic defects were due to the colonists not intermarrying with the locals - there were cases of children born with webbing between the fingers and other abnormalities. This is because of the small number of separate families from Germany - a high proportion of them have the surname Schubert. The article says that the defects are a result of intermarrying with locals. Anyone know which is right? --Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 10:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I once read in The Times newspaper in the mid 1990's that several were deaf due to inbreading and they were opposed to cross-breading with the Paraguayans. --Homer slips. 17:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mengele

Why was this pragraph removed?

• After the fall of the Third Reich, Nueva Germania is believed to have sheltered hundreds of fleeing Nazi war criminals, including Dr. Josef Mengele, the infamous medical scientist who eventually made his way to Brazil.

There are references available. -Will Beback 02:35, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I started changing Wikipedia after I attended Bay Con in San Jose in 2006. At Bay Con, I attended a conference with a Wikipedia founder:

Wikipedia Panel Douglas Adams had both the Encyclopaedia Galactic and The Hitchhiker's Guide. We've got our new Internet font of all knowledge, the Wiki. How good is the information contained within the Wikipedia? Does it need a panel of experts to ensure that entries aren't re-written to eliminate unfavorable information or put a positive spin on events?” List of Guests Laura Majerus (M), Sean Eric Fagan, Berry Kercheval, Brad Templeton, Mike Van Pelt

http://baycon.org/2006/programming/

The founder, I am not sure of his name, told us that the proper way to work with Wikipedia was to go in yourself and delete items which were inaccurate. When he was questioned about debates in articles he informed us that the person who changes the entry the most is the winner in these cases, and that this is proper way to go about things.

I had already email Wikipedia several times that the Juniper Hills Net was a scam website and that the correct website for Juniper Hills, California was http://www.juniperhills-ca.org/, but I was ignored. No one would change the link. I decided to change the link myself, because I had evidence from the San Francisco Chronicle article http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/03/13/INGPOBMRMU1.DTL

There is now a link to this article on the Nueva Germania Page.

I can find no evidence that Juniper Hills Net has ever visited Nueva Germania, and their claimed association with Nueva Germania, I believe to be a fabrication. I feel that the people of Nueva Germania have the right to speak for themselves. Perhaps they do not wish to be associated with Joseph Mengele, and if he never did live there, why should they be forced as a town to carry collective guilt, over the crimes of Mengele? This is another important reason that concrete and verifiable proof must be given when one causally bandies about words like “hundred of Nazis lived there, and so did Mengele.”

I had written to the Real Offical Juniper Hills Town Council, and they had expressed to me personally in an email that they did not wish to be associated with Juniper Hills Net. I assumed they did not understand how to protect themselves in Wikipedia.

I also removed the links to Juniper Hills Net from the entries on Nueva Germania because after extensive research, I could only conclude that Mengele had not lived there. He may have gone there briefly, but there was no real evidence of that either. Mengele’s house is in Hohenau, Paraguay. Juniper Hills Net’s desire to start a rumor that Mengele lived in Nueva Germania is probably caused by a desire to sell tours. I suggest Juniper Hills Net instead offer tours to Hohenau, Paraguay.

Nueva Germania does have some historical interest in that Elisabeth Nietzsche lived there. Surely this is enough to merit interest in Nueva Germania, and I have myself enjoyed reading Friedrich Nietzsche. I would like to see a news magazine go there. Serious investigate of Nueva Germania is needed to protect them from lies and rumors created by profit seeking individuals.

I did not understand how to set up a talk page, or how to use Wikipedia, I am good with computers, but it was too complex for me to figure out how to explain myself in the talk section, but if I had been able to do it. I would have done so earlier. I am not attempting to be a hidden person. I have added an email link to the page with my name also, and so it can be possible to reach me even faster if someone has a question. This should explain my slowness in explaining my position on Wikipedia.--Robert551 16:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)