Talk:Nuclear weapons in popular culture
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Does the U.N. know about this game?: "The card game Nuclear War and its expansion sets are rife with atomic weapons." Perhaps this should be reworded, along with about 75% of the rest of this article. Doesn't anybody proofread these articles?
- i think you know the answer to that question.
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[edit] Nuclear weapons in religious scripture
Where would we mention Xenu? He's getting mentioned in just about every recent press article about Tom Cruise - David Gerard 00:45, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Nuclear weapons in Battlestar Galactica
Is the new series of Battlestar Galactica the only TV series so far to show nukes as viable, effective weapons in space? I've just edited the main page to add the show's depiction of nuclear war, including that it's the show with the largest quota of weapons used (depicted or alluded to). Do we add a mention about how casually nuclear weapons are used in this series? - Sentinel75 10:40, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Herman Kahn
- “Some nonfiction works of the time had an effect on cultural works. Herman Kahn's non-fiction book On Thermonuclear War, (1961) describing various nuclear war scenarios, was never popular, but the outlandishness of its projections and the possibility of a "Doomsday Machine", an idea Kahn got from the novel Red Alert, as a way to prevent war...”
I'm not sure that it's accurate to label On Thermonuclear War as "never popular" as it was a valuable edition to the field of nuclear strategy, but my main problem with the above quote is the proposition that Kahn developed his theories after reading pulp fiction. A source would be helpful, otherwise i'd be inclined to do a bit of chopping. --Onebravemonkey 08:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Surely O T W was never popolar the way the other mass market artistic works mentioned on this page were popular; this does not contradict its importance historically to nuclear strategey. About Doomsday Machine idea from Red Alert, I have found the reference. "Herman Kahn's ground-breaking theories in his book On Thermonuclear War, made their presence felt in popular culture: The brutal reality of Mutual Assured Destruction and the terryifing theoretical possiblity of a Doomsday Device were echoed in the novel Red Alert," can't be right, Red Alert came first. Reverting. --GangofOne 07:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, Red Alert did come first, that does need reworking, but i find it hard to believe that the novel influenced Kahn. If there's a citation that proves otherwise then i'm happy to accept it... otherwise it needs to be removed. And as far as the 'never popular' claim, i'm not sure you can measure it's importance with the same criteria that you do artistic works. Otherwise you'd have to tar other similar theoretic works with the same brush - Sure, Newton wrote some revolutionary work but sheesh, they're not page-turners. :) Maybe it might be simpler to remove Kahn completely and just start with discussing how literature dealt with MAD without explicitly mentioning OTW? --Onebravemonkey 08:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well shut my mouth! I just read that article you (GoO) posted... *backs slowly away* Still not sure about 'never popular', though. (Although to be honest that's the least of this article's problems.) --Onebravemonkey 08:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nuclear Weapons in Computer Games
What about the Fallout game series? If Mad Max is going to be mentioned, I'd think that Fallout deserves one as well. - Gargantrithor 02:17, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I moved Metal Gear from the art section to the video games section, but it could do with a bit more detail in it if anyone can add to it. davekeeling 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Nuclear Weapons in Comic Books
Shouldn't there be some mentioned? The Hulk (comics) at least? --24.46.164.83 04:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
And The Dark Knight Returns. A nuclear explosion is central to the plot. AlanD 20:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV question
The text just added by justaperson117 seems to me heaviliy biased, but I am not certain enough to simply remove it myself. See History for the text he added. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 06:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- It really would require a lot more qualification to be NPOV, as how "extreme" nukes are depends on 1. who you talk to, and 2. in what specific contexts you are referring to. Nobody doubts that a full-on nuclear exchange between nuclear countries would have immense social and environmental effects, though the question of whether smaller exchanges would have similar effects or whether or not you would ever have "world-killing" scenarios is up for debate. In any case I think the overall impression of the sentence is not one which is POV. --Fastfission 18:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
