Talk:Norteños

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i removed the mention of the darkroom familia "gang rapper band" because theres nothing significant that separates them from the hundreds of other norteno gangsta rappers/groups. and they dont have an entry on wikipedia. Justinhoude 12:10, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)

I rewrote this a lot to get in more of the history; it still needs some written references though. I removed some details about lowriders because I can't confirm them and they probably belong in the lowrider article anyway. Hob 02:58, 2004 Sep 7 (UTC)

[edit] Dont edit

The HHP found at the Santa Rita Jail. This is exactly as I found them and I feel making the rules in a list detracts from the orignal form.

I only put it in a list. The text is not changed and is onkly wikified. The sloppy list makes people confused, but nested bullets clear things up. Feel free to discuss things on my talk page if you have any questions or comments. — Stevey7788 (talk) 22:05, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

However putting them up as a list detracts fromthe overall presentation. One reason I put it up is because of the spelling and grammar errors. It's the real deal, made by a Norteno gang member for other Norteno gang members. All of the HHPs I have found are like this and I feel they should be kept like this.

Wikkifing something isnt always the why it should be. People who look for information here deserve the information as it is, raw data. That is why they look here and not the online World Book or Britanicia. Info here is gathered by those who know.

The data isn't changed. The list makes it easier to read, and nothing is changed. However, there will be no more wikifying of the list. — Stevey7788 (talk) 20:24, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moving page/NPOV

I think this page should be moved to Norteños for consistency with Sureños. In its plural form, there's no need for it to be disambiguated.

Also, is "the biggest, strongest, most notorious prison gang" NPOV?

Wiki Wikardo

Yes that is definitely a neutral point of view. It is the most organized, but thats it. Who ever said all that about it?

[edit] Clothing?

What gang wears FB County & dickies??

- answer: All Sureno gangs wear those. Nortenos stray from that style now to show individualism.