User talk:Nino Gonzales

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[edit] Sock puppet

Are you the same person as User:Gonzalo...1960? If not , anyway, welcome to wikipedia and best regards,--Jondel 08:47, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

    • Nope --Nino Gonzales 08:51, 10 September 2005 (UTC) Thanks. Glad to be here =)


Scisne loqui Latine? --Jondel 23:21, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

    • Does that translate to do I speak Latin? No. I speak Cebuano however. --Nino Gonzales 08:51, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
      • ?No hablas castellano?--Jondel 00:45, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
        • Leo lang. No hablo. --Nino Gonzales 07:40, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WP:TAMBAY

This is a special forum for Filipinos, why not pass by? BTW I wrote about a Cebuano who was probably the first person to circumnavigate the world:Henry the Black. I am looking for the words that Antonio Pigafetta jotted down in his notes, they were Cebuano. He used them to when he and Magellan's crew had to leave Cebu. --Jondel 00:49, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Nice article. Is it established that Enrique came from Cebu? Thanks for the link to Tambay. I'll hang out regularly :).--Nino Gonzales 07:46, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

An article came out at the inq7 website with the words Antonio Pigafetta recorded which were unmistakenly Cebuano. If the words were Cebuano, then we can conclude that the Community Enrique could communicate with were Cebuanos. Ok maybe it isn't established that he was from Cebu, but at least his native language was Cebuano.--Jondel 00:38, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] advocacy

Please look at your Cebuano wiki page.--Jondel 10:28, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bisaya

I know SIL categorizes their language within the Binisaya family. But do they consider themselves Bisaya ethnically?

No, they do not. The term bisaya' actually means Christian or Christian Filipino for them.

The Cebuano article says that Cebuano was only spoken in Cebu a long time ago.

I'm not sure I agree with this.

Is it established that the origin of the Cebuano language is actually Cebu?

I don't think so.

Is it established that the Cebuano language came to Mindanao from Cebu? I don't think there is any reason to think why Cebuano could have not originated from Mindanao, or any other place outside of Cebu for that matter...

Dr. David Zorc has a theory that the origin of the people who spoke Proto-Central Philippine - the ancestor of Tagalog, Visayan languages, & Bikol languages - is either northeastern Mindanao or southeastern Leyte.

However, my personal view - and this is pure speculation not to be taken as gospel - is that Cebuano started out in Mindanao. Cebuano is closely related to Surigaonon, Butuanon, and Tausug and they all have their origins in northern Mindanao. I think the name Cebuano happened to be tacked on to the language is because of Cebu's status. --Chris S. 13:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Pedro

Nice photo! Is this photo released to the general public?--Jondel 11:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Matador

Nino. I never have given much thought to the "steps" used in determing etymology. I think, so far, it's good. However, I think there's another step. What signals me that it's a foreign word is that it ends in "r" - I don't think /r/ occurs at the end of words in native Cebuano words, so this tells me that it's of Spanish origin. But let's say it's Asi or Ilokano, which have native words that end in /r/, what then? Well, there are usually phonological correspondences in other languages. Knowing Asi's rules, I know that the native word gador is gayod in Cebuano. So I'll apply that rule to matador which becomes matayod - and I don't think there's a matayod in Cebuano, is there? There are a variety of ways, I don't think there is one. Because sometimes, it is hard to tell. --Chris S. 12:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, I guess the more evidence you have to support the claim, the better it is. You have made reasonable assertions with maru - but what have you got to prove this? I am not doubting you, but some day someone will and it's best to have evidence. And in my Tagalog dictionary, there is tarong - it means "understanding" and "comprehension." --Chris S. 21:22, 27 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Malay dictionary

I 've been searching with google and would appreciate any links or sources about the first Italian -Malay dictionary which should be the first Italian- Cebuano dictionary created with Antonio Pigafetta. This is to conclusively establish that Henry the Black was a Cebuano and not a Malaccan native.--Jondel 01:15, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Advocacy

While wikipedia is not a tool of advocacy, many companies like IBM, Motorola, Intel etc have their crucial technologies and products published (advertised ?) here. In fact, I wrote some of them because I submit them to my company in my real job as a reporter. I contributed a lot to Cebuano and Philippine related articles to make them better known. While the products of Intel, Motorola etc are not advocated or advertised, the purposed of advocacy is satisfied anyway. As long as they fulfill the requirements of being encyclopedic , useful and informative that is. --Jondel 02:00, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Preview button

It is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thanks! Coffee 14:57, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Demographics of the Philippines infobox on Tasaday page

Hi, I noticed your comments on User:Matthewprc related to this topic. As you may know, I find the Template:Demographics of the Philippines highly distracting on the Tasaday page. You mentioned an updated template. Is this the one which is on the Tasaday page now? If not, could you link to the new template; I'd like to take a look at it. If it has already been updated, I think it needs to be modified, at least for this article. Please see my comments on User Talk:Matthewprc and tell me what you think. Thanks! --Lensim 03:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I see that you've changed it, and here it was I have to say: That so rocks! Very nice work! (thank you) --Lensim 17:41, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnicity & tarong

Hi Nino! Pasensya na gyud, ha. Kahibalo ko nga dugay kaayo ka gahulat sa akong tubag sa imong pangutana kay busy ko kaayo karon, eh. Kumusta kaha ang akong Binisaya? Ok ba? :-D Anyway, don't apologize for being strong. It's normal - as I most likely was too. I know that Google says what it says about ethnicity, but it's usually reflective of normal everyday people, but as you and I know, on Google they still widely refer to Cebuano as a "dialect" on Google. So I think it's extremely important to give the anthropological perspective great priority since it is based on actual research.

As for the standard number proofs about etymology? I don't think it's wise to think of numbers but in quality. But yeah, number helps, but it's second to quality in my humble opinion. My opinion about tarong is that perhaps the meanings changed over time or even there were meaning that were discarded. Look at ayaw, for instance. It means "don't want" in Tagalog but "don't do" in Visayan languages. But there is a connection There. Also, look at the word "right" in English it means the direction or a privilege bestowed upon citizens by the law. And this happens in French (droit), Spanish (derecho), etc. My suggestion is to see if tarong exists in other Philippine languages and if so, what are the meanings? --Chris S. 02:57, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Paki-, as far as I know, is derived from the affix maki-. It cannot be from pakiusap alone. To me it's used to soften a request. So kind of like "please." --Chris S. 06:00, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Pls visit AfD Cyberservices, and see an article created by the same "user" - AfD Philippine Cyberservices Corridor. Pls encourage more well known users to make a vote. I have a suspicion that there will be a flood of posts from anons, and new users in those two AfDs. Thanks. Wikipedia is not for promotion. --Noypi380 11:29, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Liquidity forecast and Cash position

Could you add a little more content to articles like these. They run the risk of being deleted as a dictionary definition unless it's expanded past just a definition. Perhaps there is a place to merge and redirect this until you can write a longer entry? - Mgm|(talk) 10:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Essays and Wiki

So you mean the essays can be written by one author, a group of authors, or a community of authors? Sweet. If yes, that is quite interesting and it would be nice to experiment on such essays. Online essays written by more than one person writing a weblog, journal or diary, sounds good. :) Yes, I would be interested in helping out in such, and yes, Wikia (formerly Wikicities) would be an excellent place for this. You could even get the URL essays.wikia.org. WikiEssays are a good idea, so go for it. :) --Noypi380 05:22, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maayong adlaw!

Nino Gonzales is awarded this Barnstar for his excellent work on Ethnic groups in the Philippines and other articles. —Khoikhoi 03:06, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Nino Gonzales is awarded this Barnstar for his excellent work on Ethnic groups in the Philippines and other articles. —Khoikhoi 03:06, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Nino, just wanted to give you this award for all your hard work. Cheers, —Khoikhoi 03:06, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, keep up the good work. —Khoikhoi 03:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Rizal1.JPG

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[edit] Please do!

Hi Nino, please do come by! Tell them you're a guest of mine if they give you any trouble, but I doubt they will. My presentation is at 4pm at the Asian Institute of Management, near Greenbelt Mall 1. Hope to see you there. -- Fuzheado | Talk 01:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the barnstar! Howard the Duck | talk, 10:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Essays

Hey, how's the essays plan going? Did you propose it? ;) --Noypi380 10:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, but still, I like your idea, and you should get credit, even if metawiki chooses not to pursue it. Happy editing!, ;) --Noypi380 05:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arius

You made some edits to Arius that someone else objects to. You may want to defend your adds, which seem fine to me. 64.178.145.150 13:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] jologs

sorry for the late reply. will transcribe the francis m jologs lyrics. have not heard gloc 9's version yet, but gloc 9 only came to fame circa 2004. mostly through the productions of francis m. will send you the jologs of francis m ASAP.


[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Krisaquino1.jpg

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The summary says "modified wikipedia pic". If so, we need to have a link to the picture that was modified. Let me know if you need help or have any questions. —Bkell (talk) 02:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Great!

Nino, great to hear about the Teach the Teachers project. Let me know if there's any way I can help! -- Fuzheado | Talk 00:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added you to cat:Cebuano Wikipedians

Bay,

Gipuno takas Category:Cebuano Wikipedians. K ra nimo? Kita pang duha ang sulod, may unta kon kabantay ka kinsa pay laing mga Bisaya diri. Maayo na lang naa tay ato kaugalingong pundok sa Wikipedya. ;)

Wa na lagi ko kabantay nimo sa ceb-wp? --Bentong Isles 09:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Let's vote for Mariano Trias

Hey there Nino Gonzales! I would like to ask for your vote for the article of Mariano Trias in Wikipedia's Article Creation and Improvement Drive. It's nearing it's deadest deadline.

I believe that this article still needs a bit of clean-up and expansion. I hope you would vote for the article in this link as soon as possible.

Thanks a lot!!! ---- Kevin Ray 13:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nur Misuari photo

Hi, Image:Nurmisuari1.jpg doesn't say which other image it is based on. You haven't taken the picture yourself, have you? Wikipeditor 17:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I got it somewhere in the web. You will probably need to delete it. Thanks.--Nino Gonzales 10:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ceb-wp

Bay,

Na wa naman jud kay bisita2x sa ceb-wp :) Daghan na kaayong artikulo, akong gimass-add ang mga towns sa France... After ani, sa Pilipinas na pod tingaye ako isunod. Wala bitaw sa rules nga di puyde. hehe --Bentong Isles 12:30, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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I got it somewhere in the web. You will probably need to delete it. Thanks.--Nino Gonzales 10:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Lucytorres1.JPG listed for deletion

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I got it somewhere in the web. You will probably need to delete it. Thanks.--Nino Gonzales 10:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] changing wiki msgs

Bay,

You can go to Special:Allmessages, all the links are there. Hope this helps. --Bentong Isles 03:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Visayans

I wrote a lengthy comment for you at Tambayan. --Chris S. 03:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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