User:NikoSilver/List of POV edits by Slavomacedonians
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[edit] User:Makedonec
(aka mk:Корисник:Македонец)
In mk:Егејска Македонија (Aegean Macedonia instead of Macedonia (Greece)):
- "Greek Macedonia DOES NOT EXIST, Greek Macedonians DO NOT EXIST, Greeks are Gypsies, MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS!"
The differences in both versions:
- User:Telex version:
- Introduction: Aegean Macedonia or Greek Macedonia (... some other names...) is a territory of Greece which is the southern part of the region of Macedonia.
- The Greek Macedonian flag with a caption saying: the flag of Greek Macedonia and of the Greek Macedonians.
- User:Makedonec version:
- Introduction: Aegean Macedonia (... some other names, but not Greek Macedonia...) is a territory of ethnic Macedonia which today is part of Greece.
- The old FYROM flag with a caption saying: national flag of the Macedonians with the Star of Kutlesh (Vergina) a Macedonian national symbol.
- Just below, it says that there are 420 000 - 450 000 (19,09% - 20,45%) "Macedonians" in "Aegean" Macedonia, and that they form 88% in "Lerin" (Florina) and 79% in "Voden" (Edessa). Telex didn't even attempt to fix these.
- "(Telex: But why?) So that you ask. This is the MACEDONIAN WIKIPEDIA, I wont allow this" (Macedonian rather than Macedonian language).
- "DEATH TO THE GREEKS! Die you ******, and you idiot. The article has been reverted to a previous version".
- Personal attacks against the Macedonian people. I met the Macedonian people yesterday, we had a drink or two, then we started arguing and personal attacks were made (note the delicacy of it all - to call the Greeks fascists and then to go and report them for personal attacks against the Macedonian people).
- Macedonians replacing Bulgarians in the 19th century? Another case of Retrospetive ethnic cleansing (see below).
- The name of the country ruled by Tsar Samuil of Bulgaria was not Bulgaria "updated. If the Bulgaro-tatar changing this page does not stop, he'll be run over."
- "I WON'T ALLOW IT. PERIOD!!! LET THE GREEKS ALLOW IT FIRST!!!". Good to have all the priorities straight.
- His comments on mk:User:Telex's talk Read them all...
- Apparently in mk:wiki nobody is allowed to speak Bulgarian (not even Bulgarian users)...
[edit] User:Realek
(aka mk:User:Aleksandar SK, aka User:Dipazi, aka User:IPm)
- "Whenever the Bulgarian wikipedia presents the Macedonian POV, then we will write here the Bulgarian POV".
- "the claim that an ethnicity can be invented and then make people accept it (and all that in a couple of years) IS RIDICULOUS"
- (no edit summary) - vandalises Telex's userpage again, this time adding to the caption of the flag of Macedonia: a reference to Greece under the sour retaliatory yet unrecognised by the UN name "FOPOG" and the Slavomacedonian text The flag benefits any citizen of the former Ottoman Province of Greece (especially Pontian Greeks settled in Aegean Macedonia in the first half of the 20th century).
[edit] User:Macedonia
(aka User:Makedon45) (also see User page -even after deletion on the grounds of being inflammatory-)
- Retrospective ethnic cleansing
- Improving the population
- we don't need to repeat the same fact twice, it already appears at the bottom, its unfair to judge Macedonians only by their political status. See Discussion
[edit] User:Bomac
(aka mk:Корисник:Boyan - administrator, aka User:FoxyNet, aka User:High Elf, aka User:Vainamainien)
- Stolen Aegean Macedonia!
- Macedonians have the right to consider themselves as descendants of A. Mac's, just as Greeks can.
- Greece steals our history!
- +description of ethnic Macedonians (you must see this one)
- If some people were declaring themselves as Bulgarians in the past, that doesn't makes them Bulgarians Say bye-bye to the self-id principle.
- Defense to the rescue. In order to defend oneself, one must accuse of stealing
- Removing unnecessary onanistic crap
[edit] User:Vlatkoto (aka 194.141.39.2, aka 85.30.65.132, aka 194.141.41.233, aka User:Nikolaј) and User:Pulvis angelus
Students in Plovdiv University, Bulgaria.
- removed crap
- Stop playin (sic) that you know what happend than even not knowing what you have eathen (sic) yesterday
- You should come to macedonia and stop fantasieing (sic) from BULGARIA (Reality check required, propagandistic bg.interwiki removed).
- Nor (sic) Bulgarian tribes mixed with the MACEDONIAN PEOPLE - anon is Vlatkoto. (Apparently this tribal university was the choice for Vlatkoto)
- Some striking observations about history and mutual intelligibility of Bulgarian and Macedonian.
- Discover the differences! How come we never thought of using a bot to replace every occurence of "Bulgaria" with "Macedonia" before?
- Witness Vlatkoto's vandalism. He was later reverted by a vandal bot and notified, although he then tried a more subte form of vandalism.
- NO BULGARIANS IN THE ENTIRE MACEDONIAN REGION - the usual gag. Propagandistic interwikies are deleted, Bulgarian is purged from the text and replaced with Macedonian (as per the doctrine), and yelling it makes the person saying it believe it.
- Defend one's land from controversing. Vlatko's justification for this edit [1].
[edit] User:Makedonia
- (no edit summary) (note: the source linked to says nothing of the sort)
[edit] User:Cigor
- "Macedonian Slavs = Bulgarians+Serbs, not just Bulgarians." I wonder why no one has claimed that Goce Delchev might be Serbian yet.
- The usual suspects
- Some interesting concepts of the geographical basis of self-identification People get more creative every day.
[edit] User:MatriX
(aka Bitola)
- In order to remove the Albanian name (an official language in this city since it is populated 57,10% by Albanians according to the latest census), from the first paragraph, the following tactic is followed:
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- creating name section (in order to discuss the etymology of the name and other interesting features - NOT). According to MatriX [2], if there is a name section, then names don't have to be in the first paragraph. Really? See below:
- Adds the official name, while forgetting that Albanian is co-official in this municipality.
- A different approach is adhered to in the case of non-FYROM cities. At Edessa, the Greek and "Macedonian" names are added [3] (despite the existence of an extensive name section). It is interesting to note that the language he calls "Macedonian" has never been official in this area, unless ofcourse he means the Macedonian dialect. Presumably, he is referring to the Slavic language, which used to be officially recognized in the area. The other names which used to be official (Bulgarian and Turkish) are not included of course.
- corrections in the EU section by deleting the fact that the EU recognizes the country as FYROM. Nice ;-)
- The bottom line We cannot punish the Republic for being a Republic, by using its full name
[edit] User:FlavrSavr
Administrator at mk.wiki.
- Another one bites the dust. No propaganda is allowed, unless it is endorsed by our government.
- The self-identification principle does not always apply.
[edit] User:Vbb-sk-mk
He was sort of a typical editor from the Republic, until this happened:
The mask did indeed fall.
[edit] User:Evla
- This is how a typical Bulgarian looks like
[edit] 212.110.91.44
IP Address to locate: 212.110.91.44
City Code City 0 0 Skopje, AR, MK
39 24 Tetovo, TT, MK
The new version of history: [4]
[edit] User:Ditirambo
[edit] 62.162.165.153 (Skopje)
[edit] Original text
ZA POCETOK, DA SPOMNEME DEKA JAS SUM TOJ STO JA IMA MODIFICIRANO OVAA TAKOZVANA WEB STRANICA? A ZOSTO BESE POTREBNA MODIFIKACIJATA?
PA NORMALNO, ZATOA STO SMETAM DEKA OVA VASE IZDANIE, CENETI OD WIKIPEDIATA, SMETAM DEKA E POD GRCKO HEGEMONISTICKO VLIJANIE. VIE DRAGI NEPRIJATELI NA MAKEDONIJA NEMATE NI MORALNO NITU BILO KAKVO DRUGO PRAVO DA PISUVATE ZA MOJATA TATKOVINA-MAKEDONIJA.
ZAPOMNETE:MAKEDONIJA E EDNA I NEDELLIVA!!! MAKEDONIJA E PARCETO ZMEJA KADE POCNUVA I KADE ZAVRSUVA SE!!! NEMOJTE DA JA MENUVATE ISTORIJATA KAKO STO NA VAM VI ODGOVARA, VIE GRCKI PEDERI I LEZBEJKI. MAKEDONCITE SEKOGAS BILE I KE BIDAT PODOBRI OD VAS!!! PA DURI VO ONAA RABOTA (pa samo setete se koj Vi gi ebese majkite i sestrite vo vremeto na filip i aleksandar, koj vi gi ebese i koj vi gi ebe istite tie sto tolku mnogu si gi cenite i sakate?) Epa dragi moi homo-GRCI, dodeka vie ste optereteni so vasata homo-ideja za bratstvo pomegju vas atinjanite i spartancite (isto taka mnogu poznati grcki polisi-vo koe cvetal sexot ama onoj pederskiot:):)), dotogas nie ke vi gi ebeme i majkite i sestrite i site vasi idni pokolenija! kopilinja hegemonisticki!!!
MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!!!!
SLOBODA ILI SMRT!!!
ZA MAKEDONIJA SEKOGAS SE!!!
ve pozdravuva DRAGAN KOVACKI, kontakt telefon (samo za grckite pederi so sakaat da pusat): 0038970350430 dobredojdeni ste vo sekoe vreme. ve cekam skapani gubitnici, pederi kurvi i lezbejki!!!!
Vi posakuvam smrt i raspagjanje na drzavata vi vasa mila em draga: ELADA
MAKEDONIJA DO ATINA!!! KOVAC
[edit] Rough translation
We must note that I have modified this webpage. Why was this modification needed?
I consider your wikipedia edition to be under heavy Greek influence. You, my dear enemies, have no moral right to write anything about my fatherland - Macedonia.
Remember, Macedonia is one and indivisable. Macedonia is the piece of land from end to end (???). You cannot change history so that it suits you, you Greek faggots and lesbians. Macedonians will always be better than you, even in that business (remember who screwed your mothers and sisters in the time of Filip and Alexander. Dear homo-Greeks, while you maitain your idea for brotherhood between Athenians and Sparthans (as well as other city-states, in which gay sex flourished), we will screw your mothers and sisters and all your future generations. You bastards!
Macedonia for the Macedonians!
Freedom or death!
Always ready for Macedonia!
Greetings from Dragan Kovacki, phone (only for greek homosexuals) 0038970350430, you are welcome to call anytime, I'm waiting for you, you homos and lesbians.
[And the finale]
I wish you death and dissolution of your country!
Macedonia as far as Athens!
Kovacki