Talk:Nikola Šubić Zrinski

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[edit] Hungarian soldier?

He wasn't Hungarian soldier. He was Croat in service of Austrian Empire military. There is no reason to call him Hungarian becaouse he was born as a Croat in famous Croatian noble family Šubić, later called Zrinski. The batlle for Kiseg happend on Hungarian teritory defending Austrian Empire which Hungary, as Croatia, was a part of. That doesn't mean he was Hungarian. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.172.5.51 (talk • contribs).

In medieval times, being a Hungarian was not referring to ethnical descendance (they were called Magyars), but membership of the country's nobility. Please correct me if you feel I'm wrong. --V. Szabolcs 15:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

There was no Austrian Empire that time. The Habsburg Empire was a complex set of different states connected by the dinasty. Zrinski was a magnate of Croatia within the Hungarian realm. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.0.252.145 (talk • contribs).

Nikola Šubić Zrinski was a Croat. Kingdom of Croatia was in the Habsburg Monarchy at that time, since January 1st 1527 @ Cetingrad Sabor to be exact. Why dont funny Hungarians call Josip Jelačić a Hungarian. In the time of Šubić-Zrinski Croatia made personal union with Hungary and only that. But in the time of Jelačić, the bonds between the two states were much stronger! Croatia and Hungary(Ungria back then) formed unio realis inequalis, with Hungary's dominance.