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[edit] Ryaniverse

Following the note on your RfA I nominated Ryaniverse for deletion. Thought you'd might like to... sound off... Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 07:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kicked it's ass!

You sure showed that bot! :) Hipocrite - «Talk» 21:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

I'm sorry for whatever I did to make you upset on that iPhone page. This is the comment I left on that page and I guess it acts as my apology and goodbye to Wikipedia:

I read the article about all those acronyms and everything and the whole WP:BITEing thing but I don't get what it is you guys are talking about. I'm not trolling, as far as I can tell. These are just some honest points of contention I wanted to bring up and now I feel like an idiot. My friend does a lot of Wikipedia stuff and said the community was really great and a nice place to learn and get to know people. I guess I don't see what she was talking about. I really wanted to help with this article because computers are really neat and I think having a phone-computer is a really good idea. I even have a friend with the older iPhone model and thought I could use some personal experience to build the best page we could. I'm still new and learning the ropes, or at least I was. I'm sorry for whatever I did. Cynthia18 11:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Thorpe (writer)

I have put up the article David_Thorpe_(writer) for AFD over notability issues. I noticed that you have editted the article multiple times and perhaps you'd like to take part in the AFD. --Quirex 21:33, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

You're now an admin. Have fun using the new tools to make this a better place. Be conservative with them, especially blocking, and re-read the policies if you unsure, and of course, ask if anything's unclear. If you do that, I'm sure you'll be fine. Again, congrats - Taxman Talk 14:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Nice one. May I be the first to congratulate you (besides Taxman, of course!)... Good luck with the tools! The Rambling Man 15:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I second The Rambling Man. Happy editing and mopping! —S.D. ¿п? § 23:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Profanity

I would appreciate it if you would not use profanity when talking to me. I also would ask you if you think a Wikipedia article should be started about a doctor who has lost his license due to scamming? That, of course, is his only notability . According to your standards, that would be fine. Jance 00:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay. I have one. I will start an article - this doctor actually lost her license, unlike the lawyer whom you seem to think is "notable". The doctor was also written up by the Washington Post, unlike Shapiro. In fact, Shapiro is not "famous" outside his local area and has never been mentioned in a major US paper. I believe I am going to start writing nasty art

icles about every other profession, where there is any local media attention, and see how long Wikipedians think that is okay.Jance 01:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

The medical journal is of a medical association, which is a lobbying group for doctors. That is not unexpected. And a law professor is surely the right person to be discussing law topics. Neither of those examples prove noteworthiness. I surely don't doubt that Shapiro is "over-zealous". I would say downright sleazy. But that does not merit an encyclopedia article, and the verocity with which WAS defended (and even tried to create multiple like articles) shows how NON-NPOV the purpose was. I did start an article on a medical doctor that was written up in the Washington Post. WAPO is far more likely to be noteworthy than are the examples you cited. Yet I find it interesting that Tyrenius implied that somehow WAPO was less a "yardstick" for noteworthiness than a medical lobbying group in an article on doctors, or a law professor/lawschool in an article on a lawyer. Somehow that just boggles the mind.Jance 02:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jasemaan

I restored the orignal indefblock you set on this account; somehow, he emailed me instead of you to be nasty and beligerent about his block. Given what he had to say, I don't see any reason to permit further disruption. I felt it was important to let you know; should you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Essjay (Talk) 09:06, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jaaseman / Email / etc.

I already saw the message you left him. If you're curious why he emailed you, check out my userpage. Just a temporary bit of WP:BEANS inspired by [1]. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 09:08, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'd really prefer you didn't do that, as I'm not really comfortable with the potential implications of this. I've solved the problem on my end for now, but I'd appreciate it if you'd take care of it on yours as well. Essjay (Talk) 09:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BEANS

What a pity Essjay stopped your impersonation. (You know, you could still get away with it by redirecting to his page.) Anyway, your idea gave me a "great" one of my own: sig categories! --tjstrf talk 00:21, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I am still around, you know...I'd appreciate it if these kinds of tips weren't spread around, especially when I'm the one on the receiving end of the harassing emails. Essjay (Talk) 08:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

thanks for your opinion. Travb (talk) 10:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A solution for overcomplicated sigs

Have you seen this? Apparently you can set your monobook to block that crap out. --G Rose (talk) 11:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Mobile_01

Hi there, I wanted to thank you for stepping in with User:Travb's behavior. I stumbled across this whole incident purely by chance following a sock puppet case that involved Virginia. I know neither of the two parties, but the attitude and nature that Travb has taken here towards Mobile01 has simply shocked me by its aggressiveness. As a result, I've found myself drawn into a skeptic and disapproving third party in the sock puppetry article. It was of great relief to discover that someone with a higher authority than Travb, had adopted a somewhat similar view. Anyhoots, I wanted to say thanks for stepping in and making your opinion known. ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 16:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

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For Coming To The Aid of The Damsel In Distress Mobile 01Talk 06:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About your post

Hi. I agree with your opinion on the User cat discussion,[2] but I also think it could give ammunition to these man-haters. Someone might accuse you of not assuming good faith or abusing humor. Just be careful. 70.23.230.180 15:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anshe

Night Gyr, you give me the impression that you are quite emotional about Anshe. Your edit states negatives and accusations against Anshe and her RL husband as fact, while you downgraded positives to the level of personal opinions of her husband. After your edits the whole penis attack section also became longer than the whole rest of her biography. To call her a prostitute we would require a source that proofs that she actually had sexual intercourse with a client. A screenshot of a notecard that somebody claims originates from her in which she is supposed to have offered "mature" services and "love" may be a hint but doesn't proof that she sold sex.

[edit] Wesley Autrey

I have cited a source that his daughters were there.

[edit] Webroot Software

Thanks for your help with the Webroot Software page afd. I'm not exactly sure why they didnt think it was notable as it is a major company. Thanks again --Mgarnes2 16:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Beatles audio samples

When speedy deleting a page, make sure that you've also deleted the talk page, if one exists. Thanks! If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 15:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Essay POV template

Sounds good to me! I wasn't sure what to write, so feel free to change that. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need help with Itanium

last week I tried to unscrew the Itanium mess by creating a disambig. You reverted, but now I don't know what to to.

The story:

  • Intel named their first processor "Itanium." we then created Itanium
  • Intel name the follow-on processor "Itanium 2". we created Itanium 2
  • World+dog refers to the entire product line as "Itanium" and finds the first article, thinking that it refers to the whole line.

This is the case even though the lead paragraph very carefully states that the article is about the FIRST processor, not the family. The problem is that first processor was a total disaster, so objective statements about it are taken by marketing droids to cast aspersions on the whole family. Marketing droids then add a bunch of stuff about the new processor to the old processor's page.

This just happened again, and I don't know how to fix it within the context of the origional article. My idea was that folks would see the disambig page and then jump to the more recent processor. Would it be OK if we (i.e., you) move Itanium back to Itanium (original), move my old disambig page back to Itanium or make it a redirect, and then I can edit the Itanium page so that is is not a disambig but is instead a short explanatory page about the family? We can then let family-related non-technical stuff clutter up this new "family" page, while the two existing pages can stay relatively technical and objective. If you like this approach perhaps we should put a heads-up on the article's talk page first?

If this is not a good approach, then please suggest a better alternative to unscrew this mess.

Thanks. -Arch dude 00:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Pffff. I had this talk page in my watch list for some reason. Sooo... I thought I'd stick my nose in. Seems to me Itanium 2 should be a redirect to Itanium, then the Itanium article should have all the info. Like this, this, and this. (admittedly, I haven't read any discussion on the topic. This is just a blind observation) Thernlund (Talk | Contribs) 02:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
This would work, except that Itanium 2 is already big and complicated: It's an entire subfamily and the article is long, so we need to keep the old guy (Itanium) out of the bigger, newer article. Your analogy is otherwise fairly close. The other problem is that many in the industry see Itanium as an unmitigated disaster, and there is a huge amount of money involved: I'm looking for a way to keep the articles as encyclopedic as possible and somehow suppress the advertizing wars. We should probably take this discussion back to the Itanium talk page. I'm here only because NightGyr reverted my move originally, for what I'm sure looked like a good reason. -Arch dude 03:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reverted blanking of Satellite Navigation System

Hey there,

I reverted your blanking. Prior to executing a major change such as this, please discuss your proposal in the discussion area to gain consensus. In this case, the page had not been blanked because SNS and GNSS are not the same thing. We'd love to you have contributing, so please post a note on what your thoughts are for the article. - Davandron | Talk 13:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help over at CAT:CSD

Hi, and congrats on your promotion! Per this discussion, I'm dropping a friendly note to some of the recently-promoted admins requesting help with speedy deletions. I am not an administrator, so if you don't feel comfortable diving into deletions - or if you need more info - please don't come to me, but I'm sure that Cyde Weys would be happy to guide you if you want to help. Any help is great, but I'm sure that Cyde and others would deeply appreciate it if you could put the page on your watchlist and do a bit of work there on a regular basis? Maybe weekly? Thanks in advance! Anchoress 18:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: sigcontract

I agree; currently, sigContract serves no constructive purpose. It's original intent was to attempt to resolve a conflict with Tony Sidaway. -- Where 03:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lets revice G8

I'm commenting on Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G8_needs_revision. I didn't really understand how you wanted to change G8, but I think it should be weakened. I'd like to open a larger debate about deleting talk pages. What's your take and would you like to help? Thanks a bunch! Mathiastck 11:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tall women, List of tall men

Please see new combined deletion debate. ~ trialsanderrors 20:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NCIS episodes

  • I have discovered that List of NCIS episodes links to articles about every single episode (there are many). None establish notability, none have references, all contain (at most) plot summary and quotes (plus a sprinkling of original research-type observations). I tagged a few of them before I thought there must be a better way to go about getting these AfD posted and merged or whatever. I'm not really sure. As you have been a pundit in similar areas of concern in the past I am hoping you might want to take a look at the assemblage and handle it somehow.
  • Also, User:MatthewFenton has been removing notability and reference tags and has ordered me to "cease". I'm not sure how to handle this either.

Can you help here? I'm at a loss. Thank you alot. -Shaundakulbara 20:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Order of Smile.png

I don't have the know-how to propose a AfD. I tried yesterday and it didn't show up correctly. I guess I should go ahead and try to master the mechanics of that. I was hoping someone else might do it for me, but I guess I'm on my own. Thanks anyway. Shaundakulbara 21:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

FrontPageMag.com up for deletion. Travb (talk) 03:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD clarify your vote please

On the presidential trivia afd, I was confused by your vote... the comment seems to say merge then delete, but the bolded text says weak keep. If you mean merge then delete, then please change it. Thanks, Jerry lavoie 04:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the comment on my photo. I appreciate it.--Housed 12:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prod

[edit] Gun Fu - Animal Fighting Styles

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Gun Fu - Animal Fighting Styles, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. UtherSRG (talk) 16:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked user

A user has sent me an email requesting assistance. He says that you banned him indefinately for what he admits was a spree of inappropriate behavior. He claims that he has learned his lesson, but that he has not received any response from you. The user name he said blocked hm was "User talk:Night_Gyr/archive". He may have been using that name to try to contact you. You can see his email and my response on my talk page. Jerry lavoie 04:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know his wikipedia user name yet. The username you posted looks like it would be someone named "Jason", which is not part of this users' email address or real name provided to me, so it might be somebody different. If/when he replies I'll let you know. Thanks. Jerry lavoie 05:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rudi approach

I understand that, but from where I stand it just is'nt good enough, as negitive beheavour has driven far too many excellent editiors away from us. We must deal with this just as that guy Guilliani did in New York. I know we can never get 100% results, but we must try. Even 95% would be a huge improvement on what we have to put up with these days. Fergananim 12:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suicide intervention

The article "Medical views on suicide" didn't contain the various medical views on suicide (euthanasia and assisted suicide, for instance), and therefore was misnamed. Its content consisted entirely of intervention procedures and resources. Therefore, I've moved it back to Suicide intervention, and have worked on it further to present that topic better. There currently is no article on "medical views of suicide" other than this one on emergency procedure. The Transhumanist   13:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suicide warning signs

There's no lack of information about warning signs on the web. On google, "suicide warning signs" gets 28,000 results. "Suicide" and "warning signs" on the same page get 774,000 hits, while "suicide and "telltale signs" on the same page get 141,000 hits. The warning signs of suicide are very widely reported. The Transhumanist   21:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:659 hornet.jpg

Thank you for uploading Image:659 hornet.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. — Rebelguys2 talk 01:45, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, the FinnishDefenceForce template obviously lacks enough information to stand on its own, as there is no indication that modification of these works is allowed. All of these images therefore need a fair use tag and a fair use rationale. "Sheesh." — Rebelguys2 talk 02:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, well, I'll IFD them, then. We don't assume we have certain rights to images, though. — Rebelguys2 talk 02:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:659 hornet.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:659 hornet.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — Rebelguys2 talk 02:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hennessey

Hi, I'm interested to know why you reverted my edit to Hennessey. Are you going to create a page about Hennessey Performance Engineering? Deiz talk 00:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Sweet as. Deiz talk 03:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 27 February 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jim Zumbo, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Yomanganitalk 22:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Damnit

You screwed up the archiving on WT:A, hiding two pages and half a month of comments. In the future, make sure that you don't lose links when you change between schemes. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 13:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, I must have forgotten that two of the archives were named differently. Not sure how that happened. Sorry – Qxz 13:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "...that deleted revision is incredibly revealing..."

(x-posted) Actually, that wasn't the link I intended. I've added the link I'd meant to provide, this one. I think it provides insight into the mind of someone who engaged in this type of credential fraud. -Will Beback · † · 00:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broken link in MediaWiki:Revision-info

Night Gyr, I noticed that you removed the link to the current revision of an article in MediaWiki:Revision-info. I liked it; it's unfortunate it did not work outside of the article namespace. I think, however, that you could change the text to This is an archived version of this page as of $1, last edited by $2. It may contain inaccuracies or errors not present in the <a href="/wiki/{{FULLPAGENAME}}" title="{{FULLPAGENAME}}">current version</a>.. It should then work outside of the article namespace. --Iamunknown 06:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please

That's not a helpful comment at all. If you want to explain why you think the old caption is not NPOV, then we could have a reasonable discussion. But simply to point me to NPOV, when I'm obviously aware of the poliy already, is just a way of saying "it's not NPOV because I say so, dammit, and if you disagree that must be because you just haven't read it." It's very condescending. Next time you leave me a message, please assume I'm aware of Wikipedia policies and simply have an honest disagreement with you about how they should be applied in this instance, and proceed from there. —Chowbok ☠ 00:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know whose arguments you're talking about, but my arguments certainly aren't that policies should be ignored, simply that nobody has pointed to a policy that applies in this instance. In your case, I certainly don't see why it's not NPOV to say a cow is a potential victim of cow tipping any more than it would be to say that a person is a potential victim of pickpocketing. —Chowbok ☠ 00:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
It's just my opinion that a cow doesn't suspect it may be tipped? Isn't that taking verifiability a little far? You're really reaching. —Chowbok ☠ 01:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia community

I created the Wikipedia community article. After thinking it over, it is redundant and is already in the Wikipedia article. I suggest nominate it to merge or just delete it. :) - Mr.Guru (talk/contribs) 03:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I do not know how to start an AFD. Please start the AFD to delete and redirect. After careful consideration, I understand it is redundant information that does not need to be repeated twice. There already is a Wikipedia article. Also, we don't need to write a self-promo ad about the community. Cordially, :) - Mr.Guru (talk/contribs) 21:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
One more thing. I recommend to delete the histroy or it will be reverted someday in the future. Some people just wanted an article about us. I was one of them. I wrote a promo ad but that was not my intension. I apologize. I am still learning. Thanx. :) - Mr.Guru (talk/contribs) 21:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like permission to start an AFD and have a link provided for instructions on starting an AFD. I do know how to do this. Or you could go forward with the AFD process. Redundancy articles do not help our mission. Cordially, :) - Mr.Guru (talk/contribs) 04:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I noticed in the AFD a lot of people crossd out their votes. I did not know why. I did a some searching. The article survived because of vote canvassing.Take a look at the date of March 8.Here is an example of canvassing for votes. This may be grounds to open a deletion review or re-nominate for the deletion to get an accurate measure of true consensus. Thanx. :) - Mr.Guru (talk/contribs) 06:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia community

In case you are somehow being pulled into this and don't know the full history, you might want to review this. - Denny 22:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't see that post (or it slipped by my watchlist radar) on the Wikipedia article, since it wasn't posted also to the Wikipedia Community article... I posted this here to help address this. - Denny 01:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] new userbox--what do you think?

A discus
 This user is a member of WikiProject Elements.

Abridged 18:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] KRR AfD

So could that be described as Delete article, move necessary content into article? - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Killer Whale FPC

Hello. A Featured Picture Candidate you commented on, Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Killer whale mother and calf, is now in the section for "Older nominations requiring additional input from voters." Contributors have tried to improve it after you commented, and your opinion is welcome as to whether any one of the available versions deserves promotion. I am sending this message to everyone who participated in the FPC. Thanks! Kla'quot 06:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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