Talk:Nightclub

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[edit] This structure is terrible

It looks like a guide to club planning. The history is stuck at the end.

[edit] Orb and Toxic

Why does it take so much time to build the mentioned night clubes Orb and Toxic?

http://www.clubyellowpages.com/ | nightclubs | night club tickets..

[edit] Dance club

"A nightclub (or a dance club in the UK; usually shortened to club in the US)"

Dance Club? Have never heard this expression, we use nightclub and also shorten it often to just club. Grunners 19:46, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

same here--MilkMiruku 17:51, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Recreational drugs used to be popular??

== Differece between bar and nightclub == http://www.clubyellowpages.com/

I live in Wellington and although there is a proliferation of after-dark venues, there's not much of a distinction made between bars and nightclubs. All venues have music. How loud the music is, and whether people dance or not generally depends on how busy it gets.

I'm never sure how to draw the line. Is there a clear difference between the two concepts in some countries? http://www.clubyellowpages.com/

Ben Arnold 01:50, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

normally if you have to pay to get in then it's a nightclub. nightclubs usually only open from at least 9pm onwards although you do get a few exceptions - locally there is one monthly local club that runs from 8pm-2:30am, but all other clubs around here open at 10:30pm --MilkMiruku 03:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC) http://www.clubyellowpages.com/

Yeah I've subsequently talked to a friend who's been visiting from the U.K. He says that there are laws there that seem to require bars to close at a certain time and require nightclubs (which don't open until late) to put a charge on the door. I guess without those laws it gets pretty grey. He also said that there are "nightclubs" in the U.K. where you pay the cost of a drink to get it, but then you get given a voucher for a free drink. Ben Arnold 06:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC) http://www.clubyellowpages.com/

Hello, not entirely true. In the Uk the law changed on the 24th November 2005 to allow clubs to open until whatever time they wanted (and agreed with by the local authority). Some clubs have to stop selling alcohol, for example, at 2am. The voucher idea is illegal in the Uk as it's still supplying alcohol out of hours. It is true though that you must charge someone a minimum of £1 to enter the club.

Then why are there (still) so many UK clubs charging men an entrance fee, but letting women in for free? The 24-hour licensing law you mentioned does indeed exist, but it's so damn difficult to get a licence later than 3am that hardly anyone bothers. JulesVerne 13:02, 21 February 2007 (GMT)

[edit] Wikicities

There is a nightclub/nightlife wikicities now at [1] -- Astrokey44|talk 04:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] list of clubs

Moving the clubs on this page to list of clubs was a good idea. The external link on THIS Nightclub page maybe should not include individual clubs. There is one there for an Irish bar. Maybe it should be moved to the list of Nightclubs. --DDD DDD

good idea. i've moved most of the links across. links on this page should probably stick to sites about the history of nightclubs and stuff like that --MilkMiruku 06:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC) http://www.clubyellowpages.com/ for you club tickets

[edit] Venues

Maybe the venue section would look better as its own article.

  • Move and summarise briefly in this article. At the moment it just clutters the article. How many average wikipedians are going to want to build their own nightclub? Mushintalk 19:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Move - that extra info is informative but takes up to much of the page --MilkMiruku 17:33, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. An "article" like this could only be a list. Exploding Boy 19:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Do lists not exist on Wikipedia? Please explain your reasoning. Mushintalk 18:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose - There's no need or justification for such a move. Unsigned comment by 207.200.116.196
    • Indeed there is need and justification - read the comments made by MilkMiruku and myself. Mushintalk 18:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
    • oppose - leave this information where it is. It is valuable information to help wikipedians understand what makes up a club, and why a venue was chosen, however it works best in conjunction with the article on what a nightclub is.
    • oppose - leave this information where it is, for now. Brian W 18:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I have split the info out to a new article, as no valid reasons were given as to why not. Please feel free to refer Nightclub venues for afd if you feel the info isn't worthy of an article. Please do not merge it back into Nightclub. Thanks. Mushintalk 06:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Situation at different countries

In which countries are nightclubs in rural areas common and in which not? describe the situation in different countries! Here is the situation for Germany described. In many countries nightclubs in rural areas may be uncommon.

[edit] Nightclubs in Germany

[edit] Rural areas

In Germany, one can sometimes find large and often nice nightclubs in rural areas, mostly in industrial areas close to exits of motorways and expressways, whose number also gave the name to the nightclub (in fact, many such nightclubs have names like motorway and expressway numbers, e.g. "A5" in Karlsdorf and "B29" in Schwäbisch-Gmünd). By their site close to expressways these discotheques can be easily reached by many people by car even from larger distances and parking is also no problem in most cases. Such nightclubs often have multiple dance floors. However in most of them only main stream music is played, but there are often special parties as foam parties. There are also small discotheques in rural areas in Germany, but these are in most cases only visited by people of the vicinity of the club. However the transition between these discotheque types is fluent. Although these nightclubes are often nice, most people from large cities do not like discotheques in rural area, because the people there are many for them to ordinary. Night clubs in rural areas close between 3AM and 5AM. Smaller clubs usually close earlier, than big ones. For most night clubs in rural areas, there is no dress code, but entrance can be denied with gymnastic shoes sometimes, because they can damage the dance floor.

[edit] Cities

Night clubs insuburbs of cities have in much cases similiarities with discotheques in rural areas. Big discotheques with not restrective dress codes and multiple floors are common. In the city centres the nightclubs are often smaller and they play special music. In many cases they apply a dress code, especially at weekend and doormen are often restrictive, who they want to let in and who not. This is often done to avoid overcrowding and to keep away people, which may disturb the party. In some nightclubs entrance dress code is very restrictive and even with correct dressing coming in is not easy. Such discotheques are often called "noble night clubs", although they are sometimes in building not looking nice. Special parties like foam parties are not so common in nightclubs in the middle of cities, because they are often in multistored buildings and there is the danger of water damages.

Is the situation in your country similiar? Are there differences?

[edit] Categories of nightclubs

I really think a better distinction needs to be made between the different types of nightclubs. In the U.S. a nightclub is after all just a broad term that can refer to any type of adult music entertainment venue including a strip club (which even has its own article), a dance club, a live music club, etc. Therefore the initial paragraph claiming that a nightclub is synonymous with a "discotheque" is, to the best of my knowledge, not correct.

I think it would be useful to create different sections for the specific types of clubs so that they can be better expanded rather than trying to lump everything together in one section. It may even warrant creating separate articles entirely (since oftentimes there are practical differences between a dance club and a live music club both in design, operation, and even clientele). Just a suggestion.

--SWCastNetwork 16:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)