Talk:Night Lords
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[edit] In universe nature
This page is not only amazingly 'in-universe' in tone, but full of personal opinion and biased accounts (an obvious fan of Lord of the Night has taken it as gospel and transferred it to this page). I'd appreciate help in correcting this, though I'll be making attempts myself over the next few weeks. Primarch 08:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
While the article may need work im not sure the mass removal of information may be the way to go about it, i dont know enough about the night lords to be of much use but im sure there was much information that could be used if just rewritten? Lowris 11:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- But I did rewrite(in accordance to WP:WAF guidelines). Essentially, as I've stated elsewhere, it is not Wikipedia's place to paraphrase fiction or retell a story in great detail. Take a look at what I deleted- it was all in-universe, and minute detail on how Night Huanter's feelings and purple prose better suited to fan fiction than an encyclopedia. All of the key and important points on Night Haunter's origin are still there, I've just cut away all the fan fat. Primarch 12:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
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- In addition, if you read carefully you'll see that I corrected facts as well as adding new ones. Just because it looks less chunky doesn't mean it's less informative. It's actually the opposite, if you examine closer. Primarch 12:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
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- In some areas it has been approved but the story of Konrad Curze and his vigilantism has been removed/reduced greatly and this was one area that i believed to be very important to the development of him and the night lords Lowris 12:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Please point out which details you feel are lacking, I'm happy to discuss. As I've stated elsewhere, it isn't up to us to paint a dark and haunting picture of Night Haunter's childhood and his motivations. We have novels and articles and codex for that. Wikipedia could perhaps state or note that Night Haunter is considered one of the most engimatic primarchs, but it is not our duty to build that sense of enigma around him.
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- To put it another way, Wikipedia is here to inform visitors about a story, not retell it. My honest belief is that all the 40k space marine legion/chapter pages are misguided in this way. Primarch 14:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Hmm...imho, it's still a bit in-universe in theme. Maybe we should reorganize the article. Start with the history of the chapter in game, as in, the evolution of the background information, rules, models, etc. Then we can have the background history of the chapter in-universe. Shrumster 19:39, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
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This has been changed too much to the point where its not a neutural informative article it should probably just be reverted to the version that was up a month ago without all the story telling
[edit] Battlecry
Does anyone have a source for the Night Lords' battlecry? The infobox and the main article are currently inconsistent. Cheers --Pak21 11:48, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- By Index Astartes, it's We have come for you!. Editing accordingly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.63.0.36 (talk • contribs) .
- Argh! Accidentally wiped out a fair bit at the bottom - anyone know how to revert a page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.63.0.36 (talk • contribs) .
Though I do not play Warhammer, Konrad Curze bears more than a passing resemblance to Joseph Conrad's and Appocolypse Now's Kurtz. Nostronomo is the namesake town of Conrad's novel NOSTRONOMO. Kurtz in THE HEART OF DARKNESS took trophies of polished skulls, and Col. Kurtz from the cinema said "You can kill me but you cannot judge me" before Martin Sheen's character killed him.
- That's OR, and we can't use it, though it is possible. MSJapan 18:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
