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[edit] Using templates when citing sources.

Hi, do you need some assistance with using the citation templates when citing sources? Alan.ca 21:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Hi, no not really. At least I don't think I need any. Did you spot me doing something wrong with them?Nhl4hamilton 08:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm noticing that you're not using them. One of the comments in the peer review was that we are not using citation templates. Templates provide a standard format for citations and often cause a contributor not to forget key elements. For example, the cite web template requires, URL, ACCESSDATE and TITLE. There are additional fields, but it will error out if you don't atleast contribute those 3 elements. You may want to see WP:CITET. If you have any questions, let me know. Alan.ca 13:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
OK Alan Thanks, I have alot of work to do. That will be the next thing that I work on later on tonight when I log back onto the Net at around 3-am in the morning (EST) :)Nhl4hamilton 20:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Excellent! I look forward to the results! Alan.ca 03:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I've had to go back and redo the citations on the Portuguese Canadians page. I will have to do the same for the Portuguese Americans page and then I will redo the citations for the Hamilton, Ontario page. Feel free to help out wherever you can Alan. Thanks. Nhl4hamilton 14:38, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Wowsers, you have been putting in a lot of time with the citation template. Excellent work! Alan.ca 04:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing them to my attention. It only makes sense to use them because after all wikipedia is an encyclopedia.Nhl4hamilton 12:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hamilton Article

Hey, check out the photographs I added to Allan MacNab, Dundurn Castle, Christ the King Cathedral (Hamilton) and Canadian Football Hall of Fame. I also cited sources in other Hamilton related articles. I'm excited about the progress we're making with the group. Alan.ca 00:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Alan...You're doing an outstanding job. Keep up the great work!!Nhl4hamilton 08:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Did you see the todo list template I put on the talk page? Alan.ca 13:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I saw it yes. There's only 1 item on it. "Hamilton Economy."Nhl4hamilton 13:21, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm trying not to take over the article, I was hoping other people would contribute to the todo list. Although, the Economy section is completely unsourced and therefore it seems it should be a priority. Alan.ca 00:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I believe there are many people that like to make contributions to wikipedia but they just can't be bothered to source the material and they should. Alot of times I get the feeling that people are just making things up.Nhl4hamilton 05:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I can't speak to their intentions, but we will need to cite some sources for that economy section or rewrite it. I'd like to see the Hamilton, Ontario article reached Featured status, but that won't happen with so few sourced statements. Alan.ca 05:52, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Then in that case it should be rewritten with sources cited.Nhl4hamilton 05:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Sounds like a noble cause. Who are you going to draft into that job?  :) Alan.ca 07:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't think we have to change it a whole lot. The info. that we have sources cited for we keep and the other stuff we will replace it with the new material. I think we leave it open for anyone that wants to make any contributions...I will get around to it myself and expand the article some more.Nhl4hamilton 07:48, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tavares Family

Do you have evidence that the John Tavares and his family have Portuguese background? We need sources for biographies. Flibirigit 15:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm working on it. ThanksNhl4hamilton 21:47, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

Great job on the Hamilton article but can you try and include some edit summaries. It makes it easier for other editors. Thanks, MJCdetroit 15:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually NHL, I was just thinking the same thing. It makes it difficult to understand your changes if we do not have a useful edit summary. Your contributions are greatly appreciated, especially the time you have invested in the Hamilton related articles. Alan.ca 21:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

OK guys Thanks and no problem. will do.Nhl4hamilton 07:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Apparently there is a guideline document, WP:ES. I am going to read it as well and see if I can improve my own summaries. Alan.ca 07:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
OK Alan, sounds good. I'll take a look at it as well. Thanks.Nhl4hamilton 07:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Cities

I would like to reorganize and revitalize WP:CITY. I have started organizing the project more like the WP:BIO project. Would you like to assist me with this endeavor? Alan.ca 10:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

OK Alan, sounds good. Where do we start?Nhl4hamilton 10:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

The best first step for you would be to examine other wikiprojects. One very common, successful project is WP:BIOGRAPHY. See if you can find others, and see how they function. At this point, I have made a great deal of changes on the WP:CITY project and I'm not sure how the regular members are going to take it. Now is the time to observe and prepare some suggestions. Alan.ca 12:05, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Alan, I've had a chance to look at the links you supplied and it looks like alot of work. Right now I am only interested working on the Hamilton, Ontario and related pages. There's still alot of work to do with the Hamilton, Ontario wikipedia page. Don't want to spread myself too thin. Thanks for asking :DNhl4hamilton 10:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
When Hamilton page reaches "Featured Status" then I will be able to move along and help do the same for other City pages. I have some unfinished work to do still here with the Hamilton page.Nhl4hamilton 10:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh for sure, I understand the Hamilton article still requires a lot of work. I find that I get bored with one subject after so many contributions and take a break by looking at other areas of Wikipedia. I also find through my travels of looking at other articles I find ideas for the Hamilton article. Alan.ca 14:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I have been looking at other City pages for ideas. I've been focusing on all the ones that have reached "Featured Status". I have alot of time right now for wikipedia because I'm an actor and ACTRA is on strike plus this is the slow time of the year. I'm trying to get as much done from my "To Do" list before the springtime when hopefully ACTRA strike is over and TV/Film season picks up here in Ontario.Nhl4hamilton 05:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, at once the new banner template is finalized I am going to try and organize a group to go through the category of pages under the old template to replace it with the new template and give the articles a rating. Are you interested in this task force? Alan.ca 14:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Ya ok Alan, count me in. Do we get some sort of special badge or something? :D Nhl4hamilton 20:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
OK Alan. I'll get started right away. Nhl4hamilton 09:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Alan, I've done the cities A-to-F...I will continue later on tonight with cities G-to-N. I should have the assignment complete by Monday morning.Nhl4hamilton 12:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks man, your efforts are much appreciated. Alan.ca 15:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
No problem Alan. Anytime. Nhl4hamilton 15:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birth place citations for hockey players

Hi, why are you citing a printed source for mundane info readily available at multitudes of online resources ( nhl.com, nhlpa.com, tsn.ca, hockeydb.com, etc, etc). For most cases, I really don't think a citation is needed at all. ccwaters 15:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm just getting into the habit of citing all my sources. Maybe I'm overdoing it?Nhl4hamilton 15:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Maybe for that, I haven't noticed what else you're citing. I'm just watching hockey stuff, and noticed all your edits. Typically the player articles link to some stat/bio profiles that mention birthplace. I don't think any citation beyond that would be needed, unless there is a dispute. ccwaters 15:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Some of the Hamilton hockey player pages have no mention at all of references or external sources that people can go to for Citation purposes. I've been citing Sources lately for the "People from Hamilton, Ontario" page on wikipedia not just the Hamilton-born hockey players. Ever since I started the practice of citing sources I've been able to catch a few names that didn't belong on the Hamilton page. As well, It's always good to have more than one source for Citation purposes because sometimes what one considers to be a very good source for a citation can have an error or two.Nhl4hamilton 15:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A barnstar for you...

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Nhl4hamilton in appreciation of his indefatigable and impressive contributions to Hamilton, Ontario-related articles. ... discospinster talk 18:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Woweeee!!!!! I am speechless! Thanks a million man! Greatly appreciated discospinter!!! This really makes want to do even more now for the Hamilton, Ontario-related articles. I still have some unfinished work to do with the Hamilton Ontario-related articles. I really would like to help get the word out about all the great things we have going with our City. Hamilton has a rich and colourful history and like any city we've gone through with some rough times. Some people would rather be pessimistic when it comes to Hamilton and continue to look at the negative but not me. I honestly feel that the future belongs to Hamilton and we are on the verge of having some really great things happen to our City. Airport is booming so too the Port. McMaster and Mohawk continue to do us proud. Health Sciences biggest employer in the region and still has some great growth potential. TV/Film industry continues to grow as well (I know this personally from working in that industry), I would like to see a Mega-Movie studio being built or even the old Otis-Elevator building transformed into one. Some things from the past I would like to see come back to Hamilton would be the Incline railway just like the ones they currently have in Niagara Falls and Quebec City and they only cost $300,000 and at that price we should have TEN of these built right across the Escarpment from James street to Stoney Creek. Anyhow again discospinter Thank you very much for my very first Barnstar!!!Nhl4hamilton 07:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
You are very welcome.  :-) You asked where you can find barnstars to give to others; they are located at WP:STAR. ... discospinster talk 14:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Great! Thanks again discospinter. Nhl4hamilton 14:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thanks for the Barnstar, I notice you received one as well. Your contributions to the Hamilton related pages and your desire for self improvement are definitely appreciated. Alan.ca 03:25, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

You're very welcome Alan and Thanks again. :) Nhl4hamilton 09:29, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roberta Bondar from Hamilton???

--James Warner-Smith 04:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

That seems a bit of a stretch don't you think. She did attend McMaster, but she's FROM Sault Ste. Marie.

P.S. I'm not bashing Hamilton. My son goes to Mohawk. It's a great city.

  • Hi Jack, Gotta agree with you here on this one. She did attend McMaster but she's already listed on the McMaster alumnus page so no need to include her on the "People from Hamilton, Ontario" page. I've removed her from that page and as well removed that category from the bottom of her personal wikipedia page. Thanks for bringing that up to my attention.Nhl4hamilton 08:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation to a WikiProject

Hi Nhl4hamilton,

I, hereby, representing WP:GHR, would like you to join us at Wikipedia:WikiProject Golden Horseshoe Roads. Well, I have reviewed your contributions, you have made an awful lot of contributions to, not just roads in Hamilton, but the landmarks as well. We would like you to join us, at WP:GHR. Our scope, is to improve on coverage of major roads with historical significance in Golden Horseshoe. (That is, the area east from Oshawa, through Toronto, Ontario, continues along Lake Ontario's shore, through Hamilton, then runs along the Niagara River ending at Fort Erie.) We thought you can make positive contributions as you, from your contribution lists, seems like you know a lot about Hamilton, and would definitely improve on our coverage of Hamilton Roads. We would also like to expand our project, so that we would cover all landmarks in Golden Horseshoe, too. In the near future, we can foresee a project covering articles from roads, to landmarks, to communities.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON!

--> Please place your comment at User talk:Smcafirst.

Cheers,  Smcafirst | Chit-Chat  posted at 02:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Representative from WikiProject Golden Horseshoe Roads, Outreach Department.

Hi Smcafirst. Thanks for the invite. I'm flattered and honoured. Yes, I will be glad to help you out with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Golden Horseshoe Roads where Hamilton, Ontario is concerned. Are there any other Hamilton people working on the project? When I first started out here on wikipedia I wasn't too happy with the amount of info. we had here on the Hamilton, Ontario and related articles and decided to help do something about it. I like the idea about eventually including landmarks for the project. I was thinking about writing up and creating a section called "Statues in Hamilton, Ontario" and another one for the "Waterfountains of Hamilton, Ontario" where I would also talk about these drinking fountains we use to have here in town called 'Shorty greens'; possibly named after the hockey player 'Shorty Green' we had playing here in town on our 1920s NHL club, the Tigers. I started posting articles of buildings from the "List of tallest buildings in Hamilton, Ontario" section and will add some more in a second box I will create titled; "Other noteworthy buildings in Hamilton, Ontario" where I will include Hamilton Place auditorium, Art Gallery, Jackson Square Mall, Standard Life Building, Federal Building and the Pigott Building; "Hamilton's first skyscraper." Nhl4hamilton 10:59, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I am not sure if there is any "Hamilton people" working, and that's why we need more workforce from people living in Hamilton and Niagara Peninsula. It occurs to me that only RaccoonFox and myself are familiar with Hamilton, Ontario (though I don't live in Hamilton, myself is somewhat familiar to what is happening there. I am a frequent visitor.) I would love to have your start pitching in and help us. Before you do that, however, be sure to add this,
      {{Golden Horseshoe Roads}}
and would come out like this:
road This user is a member of the Golden Horseshoe Roads WikiProject.


to your user page, so every other members (we have 11 active members, 1 inactive, and 1 pending member) would know you are one of our members.

Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 02:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Representative from WP:GHR's Outreach Department!
P.S.: What do you think about my signature?
P.S. 2 :Be sure to check this guideline when you start pitching in and help.
P.S. 3 (When is the P.Ses going to be over??): I heard that Hamilton is being hit by a snowstorm, possibly 40 centimeters. Let me give you an advice, stay at home and edit!!!!! (Take this as a joke, do not give up your career as a result of this not-so-hilarious joke)
Hi Smcafirst, sounds good. Don't worry if you see me starting off slow. The first thing I want to do is read up on the guidelines first this way I can fully understand what's involved and what's required on my part for the project. In answering your questions, first, the signature is pretty neat. I don't think I've seen one quite like that before. I should get one like that for myself. Secondly, as mentioned already I will go over the guidelines for the project, get to know it inside-out. Last but not least that snow storm we are having I don't think I've ever seen it quite this bad in my entire life. Mind you I lived most of my life in the downtown west end of Hamilton between Dundurn Park and Locke Street but now I live on the Mountain and it seems the mountain always gets hit harder with the snow falls. I just got home from work and normally I log online sometime after 3-am in the morning but it's almost 5-am right now. I usually walk home but tonight I had to cab it home and had to wait 90-minutes for it. The snow drifts reach up to the rooftop of my house. Unbelievable!...and it's still coming down pretty hard and steady and the wind doesn't help much either. So much for Global Warming eh? Thanks again. Nhl4hamilton 09:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey,
Wow! Is it that heavy snowfall in Hamilton. I live in Toronto, and I had snow up to my window ONLY! That is very strong already! Can't believe it... Well, back to Wikipedia. I added members' location onto the project, so you get where most of the people in our WikiProject lives (most live in the GTA, including myself, but I do say I have some knowledge in Hamilton) Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 03:06, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Aaaaaall righty then! I'll have a look at the list Smcafirst. Thanks again for allowing me to participate in the project and for letting me be a part of the group. Nhl4hamilton 07:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Is it okay if I added you as a WikiPal? Please edit your section at User:Smcafirst/Best Friends on Wikipedia#Nhl4hamilton. Add a comment, remove the section (if you do not want to be friends with me:( ) , whatever.... Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 19:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oakville external links and references

Hi. I see you've merged the references and external links in the Oakville, Ontario article. I've reverted back to separate sections as per the Wikipdia Manual of Style on external links which states that Sites that have been used as references in the creation of an article should be linked in a references section, not an external links section. Regards. -- Whpq 13:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

OK Whpq. Thanks for letting me know. Nhl4hamilton 14:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hamilton, Ontario Lead Section

Hey, thanks for all your effort in the Hamilton, Ontario article. Would you please allow me to handle the lead section upgrades for the GA nomination? Alan.ca 12:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, no problem Alan. I had a feeling that maybe I was missing something OR had put stuff in there that didn't belong. I tried to use featured article of Vancouver B.C. as a guide. Nhl4hamilton 11:17, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
You're doing great work! It turns out that I have reviewed a lot of articles for WikiProject Cities lately so I'm starting to get a feel for how a good lead reads. Oh, in regards to that Galati fella, be careful not to impune your credibility by getting off track. Alan.ca 18:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
OK Alan, Thanks. Nhl4hamilton 18:36, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:GHR's participants location!

Participants' Location.
Participants' Location.

Hi there, buddy, (You can call me Nick, and I can call you Rick [as stated on your userpage], deal?)

As you had previously mentioned, you want to know where our participants live. I created a map just for you (despite the fact, we do not know where Fat pig 73, and bacl-presby lives). Note that there are 4 person living in York Region, 1 in Simcoe County, 1 in Halton Region, 1 in Hamilton, and 2 in Peel Region (which where I guess Fat Pig73 and Bacl-Presby lives)

Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 21:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea Nick. I should get started on the project 1st week of March right after I knock off some items from my "To do" list. Nhl4hamilton 13:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hamilton Roads

Hi Nhl4hamilton,

Well, we would also be focusing in major arterials routes, such as Upper James, Upper Wellington, and don't forget Upper Centennial too. After, we finished the roads, we would start the landmarks. One thing that we have to do (which I noticed) that there is no article for Fruitland, Ontario. Maybe you can create it, or I can on the weekends.

Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 02:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I always thought Fruitland was part of Stoney Creek. I know that's where Fruitland Road is. When looking on the map I see that it's on the Eastern edge of Stoney Creek and just West of Grimsby. I didn't realize that Fruitland was a town. Nhl4hamilton 07:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Fruitland isn't a town, but it's just a separate community in Hamilton. I actually have been there a few years ago, and I think I saw signs something like this: "Welcome to the community of Fruitland" or something.

Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 03:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Then maybe instead of creating a new article for the community of Fruitland we should maybe just add the info. regarding it to the Stoney Creek, Ontario page? just my 2-cents (Canadian). :D Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat Nhl4hamilton 09:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Okay, they would be a great idea. However, once the Fruitland section is getting too big, we will move it to be a separate article. Meanwhile, we can redirect Fruitland, Ontario to Stoney Creek, Ontario and start a section named Fruitland there.
Your signature looks great! (Just like mine!)

Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 01:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm still not doing something right with the signature. If I press " ~ " four times, I still don't the signature posted. I have to copy and paste it. What are you doing that I am not? Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat

[edit] Hamilton - Good Article

Congratulations! I see that Hamilton, Ontario has been designated a Good Article. Hopefully the next step will be Featured Article, although it won't be right away.

Great job! ... discospinster talk 02:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Good stuff! I think one thing we can do to take it the next level is start adding some really great images of the City to the article. That seems to be the one thing that all of the featured articles have in common. Hopefully we can reach that level by the start of Summer 2007. Thanks for letting me know discospinster. Nhl4hamilton 07:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Actually

If you look at the history, I was simply reverting an anon who had blanked the page. I used my rollback button to do it (which is the way most admins do it). That's why I didn't catch that barnstar. I didn't really see it since the page had been blanked. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 12:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I see, I think I have a fan. Nhl4hamilton 12:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Progress

Hello my friend, it seems things are coming along really well for you. In a week or so I'd like to put the Hamilton, Ontario article up for peer review as a step before chasing WP:FA status. Outside of photographs do you have any thoughts on what the article may need? As a point of reference you may want to review WP:NOT. Alan.ca 09:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Alan. I notice from visiting your user page that you have asked for the services of a professional photographer to add a Hamilton skyline picture to the article. If it's who I think it is then you have done well. Below some ideas for the Hamilton, Ontario article:
  • Shorten Sports section in Hamilton, Ontario page.
  • Geography section- Soil types found in Hamilton.
  • Economy section- Add a Construction chart plotting activity of last 5-years in Hamilton.
(I have the construction numbers for years of 2001-to-2005, I just don't have the 2006 numbers yet.)
  • Economy section- mention a thing or two about the Wine industry.
  • Culture section- mention a thing or two regarding Hamilton possibly being the "Donut Capital of the World."
  • The photograph I mention on my user page is the current info box picture. If you could work on shortening the sports section that would be wonderful. I agree with your points about soil type, the wine industry and the donut capital question. I don't know how useful the construction figures would be to a passing reader. Alan.ca 06:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Alan, The construction figures might be something then that I could add to the main article section of "Economy." In regards to the photos, there's a website www.skyscraperpage.com that has quite a few Hamilton posters there at their discussion forums and a couple of the fellows are professional photographers and have posted outstanding photos of Hamilton. One of them goes by the name of "flar" and has already added a couple of photos here at wikipedia but the photos he's added here are nothing like the ones he has posted over there at that skyscraper web site. I was assuming that was the photographer you were referring to on your user page. It would be awsome if we could get a few of those Hamilton photos they have posted over at that skyscraper site added to the Hamilton article over here. Nhl4hamilton 08:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hamilton Roads Template

Hi Nhl4hamilton,

I am quite busy these days, so sorry if I have not discuss this with you for some time. Well, today I made a road template for City of Hamilton. (The links is: Template:Roads in Hamilton, Ontario). If I missed something, or if you think the layout could be better, you can feel free to edit it. Also, everytime you start an article on Hamilton roads, be sure to add the name onto the template. I also had made the same type of template for Toronto, York Region , and Markham. Just click on the bold links if you want to view it.

If there IS any problem (which I tried my best to find out the problems), please tell me so.

--> Reply on my usertalk page. (easier for me to check)

Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 03:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

P.S. On the Hamilton City roads template, "Centennial Parkway" is a dead link, I am planning to start the article tomorrow, but if you want to do it now, you may...

Hi Nick, I was thinking of making a template like the one you did for Toronto for Hamilton. The Hamilton street template looks great! Check out my To do list (Nhl4hamilton's To do List) and there you will see a listing of all the Hamilton streets I was planning on writing up articles for. I would go ahead and start adding the names of these streets to the template even if most of them are still dead links because eventually they will get done. On the other hand, since you have more experience than I working on the wikipedia street project(s) I guess we can add them one at a time as they get done? Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat
Hi Rick,
I was about to do so too. But then I think I might be criticize by administartors (or users) for putting so much dead links onto one template. I already risked once when I was doing my York Regional Roads template. Should I risk it, or not??


Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 17:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Nick, After thinking it over some more I think we should just add the streets to the template one at a time, as they get done. Since I plan on placing most of my focus now and for the next little while working on the Hamilton Street articles it shouldn't take too long before we are able to fill up that template completely. I was thinking of maybe aiming to do one street per day HOWEVER, there will be some streets that require more work than others. For example, with James Street I plan on adding quite a bit of material to that article since it's now booming with an Art Scene and as well, we have Italian and Portuguese communities there and is a part of the City I grew up in and attached to. Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat


[edit] Talk:List of people from Hamilton, Ontario

Re the three jockeys from Hamilton. I have a bio ready for the final one, Jeffrey Fell, but can't find a birth date anywhere. Maybe you could help out as your City Hall has it and might voluteer to give it to you for Wikipedia. (Also full birth dates / middle names for all.) Thanx. Handicapper 16:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Handicapper, I will go to City Hall and get his birthdate for you. Nhl4hamilton 09:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My To-do List

Hi Rick,

Long time no talk! Well, recently I am busy editing other provinces' municipalities... I haven't been editing roads articles much... Well, I started a to-do list, just like yours, and you can see my plans for 2007. Just click on the title of this section if you want to view it. Also, I will be partnering with you for the Hamilton roads project.

Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 23:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Nick, sounds good. I went to your to do list page and saw a listing of some of the streets you want to be working on for Hamilton. I notice from the links you have listed there that with York Boulevard for example you just have the link written up as "York Boulevard" but with the listing of streets in Hamilton that I created over at List of neighbourhoods in Hamilton, Ontario I have the names of the streets and in brackets right beside the name I have "(Hamilton, Ontario)" this way in case there are other streets from other parts of the world with the same name if we also include "Hamilton, Ontario" in brackets, people will know it's a street in Hamilton and will give them a direct link to it instead of some other street with the same name. For example, with York Boulevard I have it as "York Boulevard (Hamilton, Ontario)|York Boulevard" inside the link brackets of [[ ]]. Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat
Nick, I was just looking at the Hamilton Roads template that you've created (Nice job, did I tell you that already?) and I was wondering if it would be possible to somehow split the listing of Hamilton streets in your template some more into two groupings: (1) Lower City Streets (Below Escarpment) and (2) Mountain Streets (Escarpment) ? Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat
Hi Nick, one more item before I log off. I was using Bay Street (Hamilton) (which you created) as a guide when creating articles for other Hamilton streets. I notice on the "Major Roads that cross Bay Street" section of Bay Street (Hamilton) some of the streets you have listed as one-way streets which they are, However, (Please Correct me if I'm wrong), I think you have them going the wrong way. For example, with Main Street you have it listed as one-way street WESTBOUND. This street is one-way going East not West. same deal with the other streets listed in this section of the article. Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat
Hey Rick
, regarding to your first issue about "York Boulevard", I think, sometimes, it is unnecessary to add (Hamilton, Ontario) tag to the title, since some roads' names are unique to Hamilton. For example, I cannot find any York Boulevard in other parts of the world other than York Street in Toronto. For this particular case, it is unnecessary. But for some, it is necessary, such as Bay Street (there is one in Markham, Toronto, Hamilton, and Belleville, I believe), and James Street.

Second issue about the separation of roads by their altitude (Hamilton Mountain Roads, or Lower City Roads): sure, I can do that for you! In fact, that is an excellent idea!

And the third issue, I have to admit, I made an error, SORRY! If you can fix it for me, that would be appreciated. Main Street goes EAST, while King Street goes WEST!
Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 18:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Rick, one more thing. You mentioned that you are using Bay Street (Hamilton) as a model for all other road articles. You can also used other formats that I have used for York Regional Roads, for example York Regional Road 49. Also, I am starting to think that (Hamilton, Ontario)'s tag is inappropriate. Recently, through an atlas, I've found that there is another Hamilton, Ontario in Northumberland County. What should we do??? Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 18:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay Rick, I have modified the Hamilton Roads template. Is it better now? Or should I do something with it. Oh, one more thing, before I forget, is that I found no Hamilton Mountain Roads , so I can't do that on the template. Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 18:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Nick, Another thing I noticed is Ancaster is a part of Hamilton and they too have a Wilson Street like Hamilton. We have two streets in the same region with the same name. Regarding the issue of another Hamilton, Ontario in Northumberland County maybe instead of tagging the streets from this region with (Hamilton, Ontario) maybe we can instead tag them with (Hamilton-Wentworth) since "Wentworth" is the name of the region? Also, If you go to List of streets in Hamilton, Ontario there you will see I have the streets from Hamilton split into two groupings; Lower City Roads and Mountain Roads. Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat posted at 00:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Nick, I just realized that the Progressive Conservative government amalgamated all of Hamilton-Wentworth's contituent municipalities into the larger single-tier City of Hamilton in 2001. So I'm not even sure we can even use "(Hamilton-Wentworth)" as a tag for the Hamilton streets. Maybe we can just use "(Hamilton)"? Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat posted at 01:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Nick, after thinking it over some more I think we should just continue using (Hamilton, Ontario) as a tag for the Hamilton city streets for two reasons: One, Go by seniority, Our Hamilton has had the name much longer than Northumberland County (No disrespect here for them), Two, Our Hamilton is much larger region with more streets and roads. Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat posted at 01:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Rick,
for the first issue, regarding two same streets in the same region, I would suggest this: We will put the Wilson Street in Ancaster as Wilson Street, Ancaster, Hamilton, Ontario, though the title seems too long, maybe?? And for the Wilson Street in Lower Hamlton (Like the main city one) use Wilson Street, Hamilton Central, Ontario. And then we can set up a disambiguous page for the two streets, and perhaps adding buildings related to these streets onto the disambig page, too? Second issue, about the Hamilton, Ontario tag, after some more thinking, I think it is appropriate to put Hamilton, Ontario. You are right, that Hamilton in Northumberland County is just a township afterall (again, nothing disrespecting). But I would suggest insteadof putting, say, James Street (Hamilton, Ontario), I would suugest this, James Street, Hamilton, Ontario. Another way of solving the "two Hamilton in Ontario" problem is that, we can put (Hamilton City, Ontario), instead of just (Hamilton, Ontario), what do you say??
Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 16:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
P.S.: Sorry for so much bold links!

Nick, I like the idea of tagging the Hamilton streets with (Hamilton, Ontario). The few street articles that I've created already have it that way now. As far as the two Wilson Streets go, for Hamilton I think it should read "Wilson Street (Hamilton, Ontario)" and for Ancaster I think that one should read as "Wilson Street (Ancaster- Hamilton, Ontario)"..What do you think? Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat

Rick, it is a fablous idea, but I think that Wilson Street (Ancaster, Hamilton, Ontario), will be better than (Ancaster-Hamilton, Ontario), since when dash is place in between two geographic names, it usually means that Ancaster and Hamilton are amalgamated, and forms a different city than Hamilton, Ontario itself. I don't know about this, but what do you think? (It's like we keep on asking each other what do you think over and over again) Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 20:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Nick, this is a good thing that we keep asking each other questions. This means we are working together. I think we should go with your version: Wilson Street (Ancaster, Hamilton, Ontario). Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat 05:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Nick, this is how I have the Wilson Street links: "Wilson Street (Ancaster, Hamilton, Ontario)|Wilson Street (Ancaster)" and "Wilson Street (Hamilton, Ontario)|Wilson Street (Hamilton)"...what do you think? Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat 05:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure, that is a good idea! You can do that, and do that on the template too! One more thing, thanks for your barnstar! That's the first barnstar I got since I joined Wikipedia in September 2006. Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 20:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My new User Page Look!

Hey Rick, I put the barnstar you awarded me at the top, and a status button on the top, how do you think it looks? I also awarded you a barnstar! Check the message below! Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 22:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey Nick, Looks great! Keep up the good work. Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat posted at 12:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Second Barnstar for you!

The Hamilton Spirit Barnstar
I am proud to award this Hamilton Spirit Barnstar to Nhl4hamilton for his dedication to Hamilton-related articles, and his spirit to be bold of continuing editing Hamilton-related articles. He truly achieved Hamilton's motto: Together Aspire -- Together Achieve. He also giving valuable contributions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Golden Horseshoe Roads Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 20:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


I am sorry if there is not a star in there... I can't find an image with Hamilton's map and a star... :( Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 01:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey Nick, Awsome Barnstar! Thanks for the Hamilton Spitit Barnstar. Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat posted at 12:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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