User talk:Ngb/Archive4

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[edit] Wikipedia:Copyright problems question

Hi! Your user page says you're on wikibreak, but I see that you've been around lately. Maybe you can answer the question I put on Copyright problems/Advice for admins? (There's not been much activity there, so I'm afraid of just waiting for someone who can answer it to wander by.) Thanks! — Kbh3^rdtalk 04:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vellore Institute of Technology

Hi! I will be removing the image Image:Vitlib.jpg. I would be uploading an older image from my personal collection. Thanks for marking the page to be a NPOV. I graduated from that school and obviously the page seems to be vanadalised. Yogi ^(talk) 03:23, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! - Yogi ^(talk) 21:03, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi! This article was toned down by Michael Snow. Any text without citation was also removed. Could we remove the NPOV tag? Thanks. - Yogi ^(talk) 12:29, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Nick! - Yogi ^(talk) 17:50, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:UNacceptable.gif

Found the original image here. The blog (and the one he moved to that's linked at the top of the page) has been dead for some months. Given the context, I doubt the creator would care if it was used, but I'll try to e-mail him to ask. Rogue 9 21:15, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:CasaDaMusica

Hi. i took the picture myself and it's a "donation" to wikipedia. what do i need to do in order to correct it? tks. Joao

Hi again. So what would be my choice for uploading a picture with the following rules: free to use for any purpose. if used, the author should always be mentioned. (this is, no one can claim the picture was taken by them). Thanks!! (BTW, it looks like the picture was deleted. how can i revert that? or do I need to upload it again?) Double thanks.

[edit] John Kay yadda blah blah

Why the restore on John Kay (economist)? It's a blatant copyvio, largely empty, and likely A7 anyway. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 16:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University template

There is information on Template talk:Infobox University. I've no problem changing "School type" to "University type" or even just "Type". Perhaps "Type of institution"? -- Netoholic @ 19:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Ha, neither did I. 42 that we know about is scary enough. I'll make the change to "type". -- Netoholic @ 19:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football war

What's up withh the reverting of my edit as if it were vandalism? SqueakBox 19:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I got attracted to make an edit by the vandalism, as can happen. Cheers, SqueakBox 19:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lorenzo Gabanizza

You put a cleanup tag on Lorenzo Gabanizza back in September; do you have a source for his notability? Web searches couldn't turn up much, and I'm tempted to AfD. --Mgreenbe 16:57, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

A search on google turned up very much instead. There's a lot of websites about him:

http://www.sonorika.com/site/info/indexsiti.php?Rif_Cat=19&Rif_Tipo=2

http://www.sartorio.it/detail.php?id=671

http://www.webalice.it/lorenzo.gabanizza/ (official website)

http://www.rockol.it/biografia.php?idbiografia=2268

http://www.regional-tv.com/a-hp/lorenzo/

http://www.goldenweb.it/dir/index.php?l=it&cat=64

http://www.lbha.org/Members.htm

http://www.missionecalcutta.it/interviste.htm (an article, written by him)

http://www.lbha.org/Sales/newsletters/news2005.htm (article published on newsletter june 2005)

And so on...

[edit] The Allies (band)

The Allies (band) does not meet any criteria for being notable and that is why it is listed for speedy deletion as a band. If you feel it meets one of the criteria, post the reason on the discussion page, but don't remove the speedy delete tag again. It's a valid candidate. Please don't change the slug again. --Walter Görlitz 20:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message and thanks for not reading the criteria being considered a notable band. I have again reverted using the db-band tag as is required for a non-ntable band. --Walter Görlitz 22:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I didn't ignorantly claim that you didn't know about the criteria for notability for a band. I saw from your actions that you simply didn't care to address the issue of notability. It's a big difference. This is no reason to assume ignorance, and certainly not a reason to make the claim. Liable is not appreciated. As someone else pointed out, this band has some small measure for being considerd notable. My entire claim was based on the criteria for speedy deletion based on the creiteria for the {{db-band}} slug. Nothing else. You never addressed the issues behind the insertion. No need to respond. --Walter Görlitz 23:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Once again your feelings are wrong and what you think is obvious is clearly not. I understand that speedy deleteion for band articles is "an article about a band that does not assert the importance or significance of the subject". So if they band had asserted their importance, they would would not require speedy deletion. They did not to my understanding assert their importance or significance and hence they were listed for speedy deletion. If you have a different understanding, please correct it. My understanding is correct. --Walter Görlitz 03:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

My understand is correct about the use of the speedy delete, but since I do not recognize PureVolume as a sign of notability since it is a website for rising bands. By stating that is for rising bands does not ascribe notability. However since a single member suggested that it should be considered that it should be used as a sign of notability I have relented.

I would like to point out two things: you changed your argument three times. First you said that lack of notability was not a criteria for speedy deletion. Then you said that it was, but gave no proof that the band had any sign of notability. Then you stated that PureVolume was a sign of notability. All the while you make personal attacks rather than discussing the issues. Please get your facts straight before you discuss and state them clearly, and learn how to discuss only the facts. --Walter Görlitz 16:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I stand corrected. Your argument never changed, you just never made your point clearly enough so that I could understand what the premise of your argument was. Lack of notability as described in the article is the primary reason for speedy deletion under the db-band slug.

Secondly if you don't think that saying that I "ignorantly" accuse you of something is not a personal attack: you accuse me of ignorance in my statements, then perhaps you have yet another definition of defamation. Thanks for your work on Wikipedia, but you can stop leaving messages on my talk page because I'm tired of your attitude. --Walter Görlitz 19:54, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I fully understand and if only you would take the time to read what I'm writing you would know that I understand and that we're saying the same thing but that we're coming at it from opposite sides of the same coin. You can go away now Nick. --Walter Görlitz 20:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

OK. You win. Please leave me alone now. --Walter Görlitz 01:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

*sigh* --Nick Boalch ^?!? 13:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move page.

Hi! I need your help. Can you move the Dorset Premier League page to the Dorset Premier Football League page? The lattar page is now empty. In fact, before I could notice it, I deleted the Dorset Premier Football League page accidently, thinking that I would be able to move the page. You actually moved this page on the 23 July 2005. There were actually two pages all along! Thank You. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 14:15, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:IAR

Perfect, I like it in the second graph, that was a great idea. Let's try to keep it this simple and fight the instruction creep! --Wgfinley 19:40, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An Esperanzial note

As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)

Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! --Celestianpower ^háblame 16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Avila adobe.jpg listed for deletion

dbenbenn | talk 22:38, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Also Image:Moca.los angeles.jpg, Image:Olvera st los angeles.jpg. dbenbenn | talk 23:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

You took these pictures yourself, right? Please defend them as needed on the discussion page, and slap a {{PD-self}} or {{CopyrightedFreeUse}} on them so this can be over with! - Hbdragon88 03:17, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for making the photos free! I notice that the photos at your web site, e.g. [1], are higher resolution. If you're willing to release the higher-resolution versions under free licenses, we'd love to have them! Thanks, dbenbenn | talk 06:32, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of territories by population revert war

I'm awfully sorry, but the discussion degenerated and a revert war just started over at List of territories by population... I tried being polite but there is always someone with big persecution complexes giving adjectives to other people. What should I do now? Am I wrong in trying to include the EU in the list? Or is someone else wrong in underestimating it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Giandrea (talk • contribs) 03:45, 1 February 2006.

[edit] Miguel Pérez Alvarado

Thanks for translating. However, I'm not yet convinced about his notability. Can you share his bibliography or explain a bit about the poetry award? (Is it a national one, on for only La Palma, was it named after a famous poet?) - Mgm|^(talk) 21:45, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

• Sounds like a notable prize. Please add something about the prize in the article. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:23, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another Esperanzial note...

Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.

Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower ^háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] A Day No Pigs Would Die

Subtitle: Have I gone insane?

Last night A Day No Pigs Would Die contained masses of copyright information, the chapter by chapter synopses, word for word, from SparkNotes here. I contacted the user who'd placed them there and deleted them. Today I saw your note and looked -- and can see no evidence the offending edits were ever there. I'm willing to believe I didn't press submit on my edits -- it was late -- but I can't see any evidence in the article's history or User:Pkazazes's history that the edits were made in the first place (or in my contribution history of having made the revisions). I know administrators can do true reversions (can't they?) but was there a reason to, and is that what happened? Because otherwise I'm going to be convinced that (a) I'm insane and hallucinating, and (b) I'm hallucinating the word-for-word text of SparkNotes essays which I still see online and recognize from lst night. Thanks. Deborah-jl _Talk 15:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, thank goodness. I was up until 4:30 am editing wikipedia, and I was convinced I'd had some kind of sleep-deprived hallucination. Thanks for the update! Deborah-jl _Talk 04:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revert war on List of countries and territories by area

Hi, there seems to be another revert war on the article List of countries and territories by area. First I tried to add back the EU to the list after someone removed it but someone else removed it again, then other people tried to add it, but the same user kept removing it. Then I changed the article name from List of countries by area to List of territories by area to match List of territories by population and the same user changed it to List of countries and territories by area. I think we need to find a consensus, but it's hard because I don't see collaboration on the other side. Can you help? --giandrea 21:08, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] heinous awful POV-pushing deletion of valuable content in my userspace

Not a problem. Thanks for letting me know. :-) Tomer^talk 01:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Ramon_del_valle_inclán.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Ramon_del_valle_inclán.jpg. The image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to indicate why we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the image qualifies under Wikipedia's fair use guidelines, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. If you want the image to be deleted, tag it as {{db-unksource}}.

If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion.

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you have any concerns, contact the bot's owner: Carnildo. 06:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Badger

Your doing, by any chance? --Bth 20:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Obviously you planted a meme, then. I'm well, thanks, currently applying to become a teacher and temping for Telewest in the meantime. (Their firewall doesn't block Wikipedia, thankfully.) How's life in Durham? --13:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia: Ignore All Rules

Hi there. Just wondering - how do my additions to WP:IAR count as instruction creep? Last I checked, instruction creep was when someone added more rules until people threw up their arms in disgust and stopped using the product in question due to it's overly complicated instructions. I hardly think this -

In short, the point is that if you aren't sure if you're breaking a rule or not and are hesitating to add to Wikipedia because of it, forget about the rules and post it anyway. If you meet resistance saying that your article is unacceptible or breaks one or more rules, then fine - change the article to be acceptible using the help and comments of other users, who will advise you of rules you may have missed. What we do here is Be Bold in editing, and THEN if you encounter resistance, take a step back, look at the consensus, consider the article, and rewrite it if neccessary. You won't be attacked for geniuinely trying to improve the encyclopedia.

- is instruction creep. It elaborates on the article. Isn't this paragraph what the page is trying to say? If you aren't sure if you're breaking a rule or not and are hesitating to add to Wikipedia because of it, forget about it and post it anyway. Doesn't this say what -

If the rules directly discourage you from participating in the Wiki, then ignore them and go about your business.

- says, only more elaborated? Please get back to me on this, as I am quite confused by your revert. -Jetman123 00:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] George M. Leader article

Hey... You seem to have been around a little longer, so maybe you can help me with something.

I know the article on George M. Leader was tagged for violating copyright rules some time ago. You left a message on the talk page about this.

I've edited the Leader article quite a bit. I didn't realize it until today, but it seems to be in violation of copyright rules again. In particular, most of the article seems to have been, once again, lifted directly from http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/governors/leader.asp?secid=31

I tried figuring out what to do on my own, but, honestly, the instructions here on copyright violations are rather overwhelming. And I fear I'm not exactly the brightest bulb on the tree.

So, I thought maybe if I contacted you, you'd know what to do.

Thanks.

WayneNight 04:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar, OTR & PUA Review

FYI. You may want to look and comment here: Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/Proposed Changes. For your reference, the guidelines are referenced here: Barnstar Proposal Guidelines. Thanks -- evrik 18:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Russian True Orthodox Church

As I suspected from the outset, the copy vio was a misunderstanding. I suggest that you now remove the copy vio on the page. I'm afraid of annoying you yet again. --Walter Görlitz 05:46, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Nick:

1) You're still not a lawyer. Do not comment on this any further on my talk page until you pass the bar. Feel free to offer your non-legal opinions on the copyright dispute page or on the page's talk page, but leave me out of it.

2) There is no way that We authorize ... “Wikipedia” (http://www.wikipedia.org) to use this material through the WEB site under GFDL, GNU Free Documentation License as well as the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license. could be construed as not being a full and complete release for use under the terms of copyleft that is used on Wikipedia. I can't imagine why you are being so stubborn. --Walter Görlitz 14:44, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Nick it appears that you just don't get it. The group wants to give their material over to the GFDL and GNU Free Documentation License as their legal sheild. They have made every attempt to please you as no one else is in opposition to this. I see not other moderators or editors currently arguing against the page's inclusion. It's all about you and not admitting that you may actually be wrong.

Since it appears that you have so much sway over the page's author, why not just come out and use your power to tell the author of that page exactly what you want it to say? They have already bowed to your will twice in changing the copyright notice to keep you happy. So just tell the author.

You also don't get that I do not wish to carry this discussion on my page.

If I recall we had a discussion about keeping discussion about pages off user pages over another page. It took me threatening you to get you to stop then. I don't want to do that so let me spell this out for you unequivocally

DO NOT POST ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION RELATED TO RUSSIAN TRUE ORTHODOX CHURCH ON MY USER TALK PAGE.

Thanks.--Walter Görlitz 16:06, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:82.46.10.9

I am not AndyZ however, I did leave the blatant vandal tag on the users page too. Could you please read the changes again, as I would consider it to not only be blatant vandalism but an attack on a named person who is reported as being a member of the Rangers Supporters trust? [2] where the anon vandal has written: "RST member Sandy J Mackinnon admitted "We never really wanted the player but as part of the charade of "inclusivity", we thought...well if we can have a taig, we can have a silver-back. No ?""

--Roy Biv ( talk • contribs )17:15, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

As a side issue what is the policy on offensive usernames such as User:Have_you_seen_a_Handsome_Hun? --Roy Biv ( talk • contribs ) 17:49, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

A sectarian song? Which the theme is that all Protestants are ugly, I would imagine would be quite insulting to lots of people and is deliberately divisive. --Roy Biv ( talk • contribs ) 17:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I didn't mean to leave the blatant vandal tag there; I noticed that Roy Biv left the bv template on the user page accidentally for the IP, and moved it to the user talk page instead. However, I then forgot to leave a note saying that the message was from Roy Biv before I deleted the user page. Thanks, AndyZ _t 22:19, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] userpage vandalism

Thanks for the reverts! --Fang Aili ^talk 17:09, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blnguyen's RfA

Hello Nick. Thank you for your full support at my request for adminship which ended at the overwhelming and flattering result of (160/1/0), and leaves me in a position of having to live up to a high standard of community expectation. You can see me in action and observe what then happened as a result. Naturally, if I make any procedural mistakes, feel free to point them out. I look forward to working with you in the future. In the meantime, enjoy the English summer. Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 03:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Ngb/Archive4, thank you for participating in my RfA. Unfortunately, a great number of oppose voters felt that I lacked experience, and a consensus was not reached (the final tally was 30/28/10). Perhaps I will try again in another few months when I have a few more edits under my belt. If I do, I hope I can count on your support. Thanks again! Cool3 talk 20:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC) (UTC)

[edit] A haiku of thanks

Thanks for your support

In my RfA, which passed!

Wise I'll try to be.

-- Natalya 04:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for the trust that you had in me when you supported my Request for Adminship. The nomination ended successfully and I am actually overwhelmed by the support that I received. Thanks again! -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 07:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Julien Cahn

Brookie here - I have started the above article and would aprreciate some help from those with more knowledge. Thanks Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 12:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help with an article about Spain, please: Grammar

Hi, Nick Boalch!

I am Garcilaso and I am writing about Spanish art and History in this Wikipedia. The problem is that I am far away from been a native English speaker. I try hard, but I'm afraid that some of the sentences I write may not be grammatically correct. I have been told by othe editor that one of my contributions needs "thorough cleanup": Baroque architecture, the section about Spain (The first part of Spain and North America). I would never have deared to write in English Wikipedia due to my level of english, but I found in it a lack of contents in Spanish Art and History. If you were so kind to review that paragraph, and correct the grammatical errors it would be very important for me. I ask fot it to you because of your interest in Spain, and I don't know anybody in this Wikipedia. Thank you for advance,--Garcilaso 17:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower ^háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'mania style guide

looks great so far! I will try and add to it over the coming days. Brassratgirl 18:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)