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Information about Isabela City, Basilan Province

Isabela City is a component city of the Province of Basilan therefore it is not independent to the province.It is an integral part and capital of Basilan.

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. GeorgeMoney (talk) 02:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Anonym contribution with valid username

To whom it may concern, I have started to edit article "Chemotaxis" about 15 days before. Prior to this work I have received my username KOHLASZ, and almost all of my corrections and the added text were edited under my user name. Also some figures were uploaded and the same user name was used. When I have checked TDS' Article Contribution Counter I could find 24 contributors, but my user name was not there, instead - I think my contribution is the major - there were sereal hits from "Anonym" person. What should I do to be listed by the counter?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Laszlo Kohidai MD, PhD (email removed) -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kohlasz (talk • contribs).

Upon checking the history of the article, you do seem like a major contributor. So dont worry. -- Lost(talk) 18:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Is the "anonymous" contributer using IP 193.226.248.75? That is likely your IP address. Wikipedia has a time-out feature, so if you are inactive for a period of time (I believe it's around 30 minutes but am not sure) you will have to log back in. Most editors have done it accidentally at some point, including myself. There is no way to "claim" those edits as yours after the fact, except perhaps as a note on your user page and the user page of that IP. --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 20:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Why can't I redirect Uncaused cause?

I have created half a dozen redirects before, but for some reason I cannot get Uncaused cause to work correctly. What have I got wrong? Barticus88 18:41, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

It is redirecting for me -- Lost(talk) 18:45, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Well now it's working, of course. I kept getting a page as though REDIRECT was not recognized as a command, as though it was misspelled but it wasn't and I didn't change it. Oh well.Barticus88 18:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

huh!!! well, i checked the history and found the fault, if someones making a redirecting article and on that article he leaves the Very first line blank, and writes the articles name (in which this redirecting article should automatically bring you to) on the second line, than its all ruined, it wont work as you want it to, it WONT redirect!!! Too Cool 12:22, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Editing Article about Employer

Let's say, hypothetically, that I was a cashier at Wal-Mart. It is generally permitted or disallowed for me to edit the Wal-Mart article? In other words, can we edit the article of our employer?

You are not required to divulge your personal details here. You can edit any article as long as it adheres to the core Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines -- Lost(talk) 07:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
In particular, make sure you don't actually violate WP:OR or leak trade secrets or anything like that. But actually, if you have a way to verify it, it would be excellent if someone knowledgeable added to the article. —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 07:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Also make sure you read WP:NPOV. You shouldn't add information that is biased either for or against a subject regardless of your situation or beliefs. Check out WP:V too. --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 17:16, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Moving a page

When I try to move a page, it says my account may be too new... How long must I have been a Wikipedia user before I can move a page? -- Tom H 13:35, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Your account needs to be four days old. But you can request for the move to be done at Wikipedia:Requested moves -- Lost(talk) 13:39, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks -- Tom H 13:43, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

The Right to Edit!!!

Do I not have the right to edit on my OWN talkpage and userpage? I SHOULD!!! --Too Cool 13:30, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

HEY, isnt anyone gonna answer!!! cuz some guy says i CANT edit on my own talkpage!!! --Too Cool 14:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Who says that? Tom H 17:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, I just checked your talk page and looked at its history... you have the right to edit on your own talk/user pages, but it appears you changed (deleted a sentence from) another user's message. This is not polite, and it is also not allowed, as it can change the meaning of the message left to you. Tom H 18:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
To expand on Tom H: On your user page, you are allowed to edit pretty much as you see fit (with a few limits, take a look at Wikipedia:User page#What can I have on my user page?). Other users shouldn't normally edit your user page, it's for your use only. On your user talk page, there is a Wikipedia etiquette on what you should and shouldn't do. Take a look at Wikipedia:Talk page#User talk pages, which gives a good overview. In general, deleting or modifying other user's messages on your talk page is considered rude - just reply to them (if necessary) and then let them be. Hope this helps! — QuantumEleven 12:23, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Is this allowed

I have seen and heard how original research is NOT allowed in wikipedia, but I have also seen a number of articles on backyard wrestling, that anyone can tell whoever created that specific backyard wrestling league, is the one who created the article. so im guessin youll say that than that ISNT allowed here, but what if they have there OWN website, is it then allowed? (cuz I dont think so!!!). and if you know what backyard wrestling is, its not an independant promotion or company, its just a bunch of teenagers or kids doing third class wrestling infront of their friends in their yards. --Too Cool 12:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Without knowing which articles you are specifically referring to, I can't say whether they 'fall foul' of the Wikipedia original research guideline. In general, original research is not allowed on Wikipedia, and if the only source for an article is the author's say-so ("The Xyz wrestling league happens in the park across the street from my house") then it shouldn't be on Wikipedia. Even articles where the only source is the author's website could be considered dubious, but it depends on the specific case.
Another thing to consider is Notability: is the subject in question notable enough for a worldwide encyclopedia? The WWE obviously is, but "some kids doing third class wrestling in front of their friends in their yards" most likely isn't, no matter what the source of the information is. You can read up on this at Wikipedia:Notability.
If you link to the articles you were reading I can probably give you some better feedback. Also, if you want to start an article but aren't sure if it should be on Wikipedia, feel free to drop a note on my talk page and I'd be more than happy to give you my opinion. — QuantumEleven 12:34, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Any article that is unverifiable through a reliable source, can be marked for deletion as per our deletion policy. Feel free to mark it for deletion if the article fails to comply with policy. -- Lost(talk) 12:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


HERE, are some of those articles i was talking about:

  • UPW-A

And MAYBE these:

  • Institute Championship Wrestling
  • Carl J. Williams (wrestler)
  • Kid Punk (Australian Professional Wrestler) (shows NO proof of most of its claims)
  • Cameron Jamie (even i dont know what this is about)
ah!!! i see some action has been taken. but i really think something must be done to that Cameron Jamie article, it should be gotten rid of. it just says hes a filmmaker living in the usa or maybe paris. so what, i got a camera in my phone, does that mean i can create my OWN article, i dont think so (im Too Cool for the internet). therefore, that article must be gotten rid of, instantly.
bye now, thank ya'll. im done with this, ill be back when i have a DIFFERENT problem. --Too Cool 08:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism warning query

Excuse my ignorance, but on the Birmingham page, the intro text contains the following vandalism warning:

"<!--WARNING Do not edit the following unless previously stated and agreed upon on the talk page. All edits to this will be reverted otherwise and be considered as vandalism. -->and is generally considered to be the UK's [[Second city of the United Kingdom|second city]].<!--End Warning-->"

My questions are: (1) Is this correctly applied? (2) How do I find out who put it there (3) How do I request it's removal? I think it's been incorrectly applied as there is actually very considerable contention within the UK between Manchester and Birmingham having this status, and as such it really creates a maintenance of a POV statement. Thanks for any help. MarkThomas 21:03, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

In general, a note like this would mean that has been a contentious point in the past. This particular versious was arrived at after quite a bit of discussion, and the editors don't want to re-visit the argument unless there's something new to consider. So rather than jumping in and changing it, raise your concerns on the talk page before editing that particular statement. You might want to look through the old discussions on the talk page and its archives first, to see what's already been discussed. Isomorphic 02:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Count

how do i get to know how many hits that my document has since i created it—…203.189.72.178 06:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

The feature to count how many times a page has been visited has been turned off for performance reasons. For more details please see Wikipedia:Technical FAQ#Can I add a page hit counter to a Wikipedia page?. -- Lost(talk)

Locking a page from non-wiki members

I have seen a large amount of vandalism from non wiki members on the R. L. Stine page and would like to know how I can lock the page from non members to prevemt further vandalism.--Dleav 13:04, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

You need to request semi-protection of the article at WP:ANI. I see that the article is already semi protected in this case, so anonymous and newly registered users cannot edit it.. Somebody has put the semi protected template on the article, but it is not really protected. It can only be protected by admins. You need to use the above given link to report vandalism and request protection -- Lost(talk) 13:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Reference questions on inappropiate pages

When i examine the various help pages for editors, I see many reference questions which should have been asked elsewhere on the site, if asked here at all. It appears to be the (excellent) policy in responding to (sometimes) give some help on the topic , and always explain where to ask.

But these question remain in the inappropriate discussion indefinitely, making the proper comments more difficult to find and read. Has it been intentionally decided to continue this, rather than to move them elsewhere to some part of the reference area?

I apologize if this has been discussed before--there are many appropriate pages where such a discussion might have occurred DGG 22:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

The various help forums are regularly archived. But if you see a question that has been asked in the inappropriate location, its better to guide the questioner to the right forum. If we move the questions ourselves, the person who asked it would not know where it went. Thanks for your good intentions -- Lost(talk) 03:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

work in progress

I am starting to write my first article. It is a little long and may take a few days to complete. Is there a "work in progress" tag I should use until it's finished? Thanks. Cgage

Yes you can use {{underconstruction}} or {{inuse}} -- Lost(talk) 12:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Alternately, you can construct the article in a subpage of your userspace (like User:Cgage2/articlename and when it's ready then you can move it to the main article space. Both are fine, of course, but that's a good way to prevent people from going in and reading your incomplete article and complaining about it or something. —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 19:28, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Why write it inside WP at all(whether its your User Page or the article itself)? It's much easier to write it in a word processor and then when you're happy it's complete, paste it into WP for a final polish. Then there's no need for a Work in Progress template - Adrian Pingstone 09:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Criteria for adding external links?

Would someone please enlighten me on the criteria for adding external links? I've been asked for the Alexa ranking for some links. Traffic to a site isn't necessarily an indicator of the quality of a site. It's also been suggested that I shouldn't edit the external links as it has been quite some time since I've edited a particular article and "added original content." First, the article is in great shape as it is. Secondly, the last time I did any significant contributing to the article was during a period of time when it was not being monitored by an administrator, and another editor was arbitrarily removing others' contributions. When did recent contributions become a prerequisite to adding quality external links?

Thank you,

--TeriRobert 15:06, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:External links (the shortcut is WP:EL). --Alf melmac 15:23, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
(edit conflict) We are currently discussing some changes in Wikipedia:External links. Basically, links you add should be to sites that have information that either can't be included in Wikipedia articles (in example, ratings, history, etc), or that have information about the topic that should be included in Wikipedia (these are usually improved to references later in the article life). Most times users add fansites, which are currently limited to one per article, or an open directory entry.
As you know, every article has some editors who are keeping the article in their watchlist. When a user without recent contributions suddenly appear adding an external link, especially when following some patterns as stated in the Spam guideline, the changes are deleted and the user's contributions checked. -- ReyBrujo 15:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Question

Hello, for various mental health reasons I am a rubbish writer but pretty good at determining what neesds to be done to improve an article, in very small steps if that helps. I know of the existance of talk pages but that's not where I'd like to make suggestions... what do you think I should do?

To start off with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_fee_fraud#Credit_card_use_through_IP_Relay is pretty interesting, but that paticular section is definitely not in the wikipedia style as I understand it. 84.9.83.105 19:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC) (Pls reply on my talk page and/or notify me on my talk page that you have replyed here)

You might want to check out Wikipedia:Peer review. Garion96 (talk) 20:01, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
  • How about tagging stuff for cleanup? (and don't forget to tell what's needed) =- Mgm|(talk) 21:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

what is the half life of methadone

i just stoped using methadone,and i wanted to know how long these horrible withdraw symptoms could last? Ive been on methadone for 8mos. and also used opiates for 9mos. prior. I tapered down from 80mg-to-10mg in 15 days. today is day 3 and ifeels like its not going to end. – — … ° ≈ ± − × ÷ ← → · § 71.125.181.188 20:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)aaron

Try asking on the Science Reference Desk, which is manned by volunteers who specialize in specific knowledge questions. --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 20:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Please remember, Wikipedia does not give medical advice. Its better to consult your doctor for medical problems -- Lost(talk) 09:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

creating new page

Is it possible for me to make a new page, and if so how??—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RFCgervais (talk • contribs) .

Yes! See Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia. (And don't forget to sign your comments) --ZimZalaBim (talk) 16:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Adding photos to a page.

I have not contributed to Wiki but would like to. I have a nice picture that I took of my Binnacle and would like to add it to the 'Binnacle' page. In my search of how to do this I found a huge amount of information but nothing that told me how to accomplish the task. Is there a place that would include simple steps? Thanks71.206.16.138 18:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Three steps: 1. Get an account (username). 2. Upload the image using this link. Be very careful about adding the right copyright tag. 3. Link it to an article. Detailed tutorial is given here: Wikipedia:Image Tutorial -- Lost(talk) 19:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

How do I create a disambig page and move a pre-existing specific page?

How do I create a disambiguation page for 'Sarah Price' and move a pre-existing specific page, 'Sarah Price' to a new page ('Sarah Price (swimmer)'? I looked into disambiguation pages a little. Is there a template to start from, or should I just copy, paste, and modify an existing page? Just want to know the best way to do this... B. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bobbyciraldo (talk • contribs) 09:13, September 12, 2006 (UTC).

Hi there! No, there isn't a template, however, there is a guide to how a disambiguation page should look: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). That should help with formatting, layout, what to include and so on. Wikipedia:Disambiguation also has some general information on how disambiguation works which you may find interesting. Hope this helps, feel free to ask again if something isn't clear! — QuantumEleven 07:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Is it Ok if I write about a game?

Is it OK from a NPOV principle if I write a page telling about an online MMORPG that provides free accounts? I would like to provide information, a recommendation, and a link to the site. Please respond to me on my talk page. Signed, --Mr Nemo 02:21, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Noting that User:Yanksox and User:Royalguard11 have responded on the user's talk page as have I for additional information. —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 02:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Bedbugs and where they lay their eggs

I have recently had a major infestation of bedbugs in my home. We had rats getting into the attic during the cold part of the year and when the pest control man set the traps he had to get into the attic through a ceiling door in my clothes closet. This brought debris down each time he had to dispose of dead rats. Not long after that my home became infested with bedbugs and I have had a huge rash on the tops of my hands, arms, legs and thighs. Can bedbugs lay their eggs in the human skin? It looks like they are doing this because when I open a wound I find inmature (opaque) in color bugs and some even start showing up very lightly in my skin and then come more apparent as more days go by. This rash follows the veins in my arms and inbetween the wounds the skin is mottled and faint outlines are apparent where new bugs will come to the surface. The reason this has gone on so long is that when I would make a DR visit it was during the day and these little buggers are nocturnal. I need to know how to get rid of them in my body. I am having my home fumigated but want to be "clean" when I am allowed to return to the house. Do you have any suggestions. Is it possible for these to multiply in the skin and stay in the skin until they reach maturity? No one believes me that what I am seeing is happening. I desparately need your help before I have some serious related health problems from these pests. I would appreciate your input and knowledge before the pest control does the fumigation, and also for information for my Dr. Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to provide. Laurie Hill 2040 Sheffield Court Oldsmar, Fla 34677 Email address: <email address removed to prevent spam>

Wikipedia is not for medical advice. I'm sorry you're having these problems, but this really isn't the place to ask. I can suggest the Reference Desk, but I can't say they're likely to help you, since as I said before this isn't the place to get medical help. I would strongly suggest discussing this with your doctor - perhaps you can arrange to have a special appointment for the night time, if the problem is simply in the time of day. Sorry I can't help more. —Keakealani 05:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Those boxes in user pages

I see that some users have these colourful boxes on their user page that have a little picture that identifies them in a specific way. Is there a list of these somewhere? How do I add them to my own user page? Cfrydj 17:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Userboxes -- Lost(talk) 17:54, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! Cfrydj 17:56, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

The Negro World

To whom it may concern:

I was interested in finding more about the paper The Negro World. More so, I'm interested in a printer that might have worked for them before they became defunct in 1933. His name was Gustaf Stevens or Stephens. He was my great-grandfather. Is there anyway I can find out anything?161.11.121.158 04:35, 14 September 2006 (UTC)Michael A. Bostick−→Michael A. Bostick

You can search for it here by using the Search box on the left side of each Wikipedia page. However, I'm unsure if that person and that paper would be considered notable. Good luck on your search. —Keakealani 05:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Did you find it? Here's a link to the Wikipidia article Negro World - Rshaver 05:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Creating a page when page of same name already exists

I want to create a new entry for the British contemporary author James Meek but when I try to do it I automatically get taken to the page of James Meek the 18th century reverend.

How do I create a new page when one with that name already exists, and also, once done, how do I create a disambiguation page for them both? Thank you. --MuttGirl 21:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Try clicking on this red link: James Meek (author), and create your article there. If there's only two, you don't need a disambiguation page, just put a note at the top of your page that says, For the reverend, see James Meek., and a note at the top of the other that says For the British author, see James Meek (author). Once there's more than two, we can sort out what sort of disambiguation page might be needed. — Catherine\talk 22:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
You'll want to check out Wikipedia:Disambiguation, since it has a lot of information about that kind of problem. —Keakealani 23:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Adding new episodes

How do I add new episodes for TV shows? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinepowell (talk • contribs).

Does an article on the TV show already exist? Are there any existing episodes mentioned? If yes, just add below them. If the article does not exist, you can create it if the show is notable enough -- Lost(talk) 06:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Boston's Hidden Restaurants

I noticed that Boston's Hidden Restaurants was being considered for deletion because I added links to the page from various pages (Boston, New England, restaurants, New England cuisine), since I noticed that the Boston's Hidden Restaurants page had a note saying there were few incoming links.

I took all these links down from the Boston, New England, restaurants, New England cuisine pages, since it appears that this is what triggered the consideration of deletion. If so, I apologize for this, since I was unaware of what the deletion policies were.

Sincerely, Marc

External links are not cause for deletion, unless that is all that an article consists of. Please see Wikipedia:Deletion policy to understand the various criteria for deletion. Then you can also participate in the deletion discussion of the article here. -- Lost(talk) 17:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

copyright violation notice

How do I mark an article with a notice that it violates copyright? It's a link to a pirate version of a commercial database. I've been editing it out, and it gets in. Others also revert it, and it gets added indirectly via someone's blog. Furthermore, what are the guidlines on my notifying the copyright holder, an organization that I am familiar with? Th article is Impact Factor and the attempts will be found in the history. DGG 03:56, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

If the entire article is a copyright violation, then it needs to be tagged with {{copyvio}}. If however, somebody is just adding copyrighted text to the article, revert it and place an appropriate warning on the talk page of the person who placed the copyrighted text. If however he is only placing links, then more appropriate will be to guide the person to WP:EL -- Lost(talk) 04:18, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
(ec) Per external links guidelines:

Linking to copyrighted works is usually not a problem, as long as you have made a reasonable effort to determine that the page is not violating copyright per contributors' rights and obligations. Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States.

This is also stated in the copyright policy of Wikipedia. In other words, the one adding the link to a site that breaks the copyright of the owner is not allowed in Wikipedia. You need to remove the link on sight, and warn the user in his talk page. Unluckily there are no templates for that, so you will have to explain in words that the user is responsible for the link he is adding. Warn him two or three times, and if he continues, post a note at the administrator's board to have an admin check the issue. Remember to add a note in the talk page that you are removing the information because of copyright violation. Also, there should be no problem if you contact the copyright holder, however most times it is better to just talk in the talk page or user talk pages to solve the issue. -- ReyBrujo 04:25, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Creating Articles for Deletion page (2nd Nomination)

The Railpage_Australia article has been given a {{prod}} tag. However - after a fairly steep learning curve - I have noted that that wp:prod states that the ProD template cannot be used on "Articles that have been previously proposed for deletion or undeleted, or discussed on AfD," (Railpage Australia had a previous AFD in May, which was later withdrawn.)

However, before anything could be done about this - and just to add a bit of spice to the mix - someone else has put a {{afd}} tag on, so that the page now has an AfD and a ProD tag. The Conflicts section of WP:Prod reads "An article flagged for both PROD and AfD should be dealt with in AfD, and the prod tag can be removed."

I'm figuring that a new discussion page (to differentiate between the previous deletion discussion) has to be created on the Articles for deletion log, but this is where it gets into "Here be Dragons" territory, and it's starting to get over my head.

How do you create a link to a discussion page for an article's 2nd nomination? Do I have to manually create the page, or should it have been created automatically? Is there something blindingly obvious that i've missed? Thanks Johnmc 14:26, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Remove the prod and AfD notices, and then type {{subst:afdx|second}} at the top of the page. You have to go the long way round filing the AfD (that is, copying the text at the bottom of the template into the nomination); see {{AfD in 3 steps}}. Basically, you go via afdx, afd2, and afd3, rather than afd1, preloaded debate, and afd3. Feel free to ask again if you don't understand this. --ais523 14:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, that was helpful, and I eventually figured it out. However - in this case - I figured that the best option was to call a 'mistrial' and delete the prod and AfD, leaving a note in the talk page to use afdx for any further deletion proposals. However, you help was greatly appreciated, and will certainly come in handy should a similar situation occur in future.Johnmc 16:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Citing a pdf article

I would like to cite this pdf article [1] for this article (!Kung language). How do I do it? --Balloonguy 22:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:CITE and {{Cite web}} are good starting points. Something like this would work:
<ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2002/PSCF9-02Morton.pdf | 
title=<insert title here> | author=<author> | format=PDF | 
date=2006-xx-xx | accessdate=2006-09-19 | publisher=asa3.org}}</ref>

Just put it right after the item you want to reference. If you wish to use it repeatedly, you can name it like this: <ref name="myname"> ... </ref> and then when you want to repeat it's use you just use <ref name="myname" /> and that's it. Good luck. --MECU≈talk 02:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

image deleted

I wrote my first article recently about an artist. One of the uplaoded images was deleted. I did not know that I had to fill in the summary. I cannot seem to re-upload and attach to article. The article was based on personal interviews with specific permission to use on Wikipedia. What do I do next? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cgage2 (talk • contribs).

If this is the image you are talking about, it is not deleted. But you have not mentioned its source. Without that it will get deleted, so please mention the source. Also you say that the article was for specific permission to use on wikipedia. That is not allowed, whether for an image or for an article. -- Lost(talk) 01:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

The image that disappearred is the one at the top of the page. I have since gone back and written info into the source category. I wish to reinstate it on the site but it won't come up. Regarding the image mentioned above, I own the painting, made a photograph and downloaded it. Is that mentioning the source? This article is about a great artist and needs its place among American artists on Wikipedia. Any specific info on what to do would be appreciated. Thanks.cgage

Ignore my previous answer. Here's the fresh one. The image in question was deleted by an admin citing criterion I3 which means it was uploaded under an improper license:
Improper license. Images licensed as "for non-commercial use only", "non-derivative use" or "used with permission" that were uploaded on or after 19 May 2005, and for which no assertion of fair use is provided. [1] This includes images licensed under a "Non-commercial Creative Commons License". Such images uploaded before 19 May 2005 may also be speedily deleted if they are not used in any articles.
The other image is ok and released under the proper license if you are the copyright owner. So dont worry about it. -- Lost(talk) 10:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Is there any way I can insert this image again? Cgage

Yes just use the proper license. -- Lost(talk) 02:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

question

please give me reply on my talk page as I was loggin out a question I was told

you have not set a TARGET

what is the meaning of that?

thank you

Juan

If you wanted a reply on your talk page, you should have signed using four tildes. About your question, I dont think you are asking about wikipedia. If you are, you will have to be clearer because there are no questions that you need to log out of in wikipedia -- Lost(talk) 04:15, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I think he means that, as he was logging out of Wikipedia, a message appeared saying "You have not set a target.". He wishes to know the meaning of this portent, and prefers to receive the reply on his talk page. He also expresses his gratitude. —Daniel (‽) 16:43, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
No, I think he writes: please give me reply // on my talk page as I was loggin out a question I was told "you have not set a TARGET" // what is the meaning of that? // thank you // Juan. He wants to be answered here, not on his talk page. -- Somethingsquare 09:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

links and see alsos to related pages

In editing a general article on a subject, such as librarians, many specific topics corresponding to actual articles will be mentioned in the article. Is it preferable to

  • link the first mention of each of the special topics
  • use a see also reference at the bottom of the page to each relevant special article
  • or do both? --DGG 04:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Linking the first mention unless its to a very lame word, is a definite yes. Using See also does not have a specific guideline attached to it. But you could use it for select few related articles. If you have too many articles that you want to put there, consider using a Wikipedia:Template -- Lost(talk) 04:12, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Effect of illeteracy on economy

Please,can someone help me where to find some information about the effect of illeteracy on economy. Thank you in advance, A Avdic

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Lost(talk) 11:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Discussions on personal pages

I understand that it would be a waste of time for serious editors of articles to have to delve through dense pages of debate within the discussion pages of articles, hence, of course, why we don't (or at least shouldn't) istigate a debate on those pages about anything other than the structure and quality of the article. However, would I permitted to add an invite to my userpage inviting other wikipedia users to debate something within my talk page? Weenerbunny 12:26, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

As long as discussions are primarily about wikipedia articles, policies, etc., any talk page is fine. Just remember that Wikipedia is not a discussion or chat forum -- Lost(talk) 12:33, 23 September 2006 (UTC)


Piper(αγορα)

Complaint?

Isnt there any place where we can complain about somneone, cuz this User:Ganryuu is acting as if she/he owns this place!!! ive been workin on the Animax article improving things, and she just reverts 'em and does whatever she pleases. on the Animax article there arte two picrures of the animax logi, one is Dark blue, light blue and green in colour, and the other is Dark Blue and White, i wrote that the green and blue logo is the former logo, becuse it is, ive got the Animax Tv channel, and if you check ALL their websites, the logo is Dark Blue and Whit, not green (anymore). But that User:Ganryuu just reverts everything as if all i did was WRONG, which just proved that she herself DOES NOT have that channel, but still bosses around and so adds incorrect and out of date (epired) info. on the article [[List of programs aired on Animax], added GameMax and Men in Black: The Animated Series, becuse it IS aired on Animax Asia, but she reverted those both too, and said in the edit summary that she WANTS proof, the proof can be found on [2] . She/he doesnt know ANYTHING, but acts as if she/he knows EVERYTHING !!! Something MUST be done about this!!! cuz Animax may be a Anime channel, but it does air SOME normal cartoons,m such as Men in Black, Godzilla, The all new Pink Panther Show and USED to show the Gaming show GameMax. so, something MUST be done about this!!! --Too Cool 06:09, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Great, but how is what you're doing not the same? I also question some of your edits. Changing the logo in the Animax article appears to be uncalled for: that "new" logo was shown below and does indeed seem to be a minor region-specific logo (the main Animax page does not feature it). If the main logo has changed, you need an actual source that can somehow trump [3]. Your edits to the arrangement of sections on the article simply makes it messier, and nation-specific sections do indeed have very little content in them. Many of your other changes have no sources to accompany them. You can't simply go shouting that User:Ganryuu knows nothing because he/she can't check the sources, if you're not more specific about it. Heck, you didn't even mention the source in any of your edits to said articles. I also have no idea why you modified the arrangement that the External links were in.
All of this should have been discussed in the article's talk page though, where User:Ganryuu explained the edits and invited you to discuss them. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and also note: Wikipedia:Original Research. Simply watching the channel and reporting on what you see probably constitutes original research. Consider also that you only have one region-specific Animax channel ("Animax Asian" ?). You need to provide proper sources, and Wikipedia: Verifiability and the pages it links to go over this in great detail. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:24, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
ok, only the logo part was mistaken, it seems that JAPAN still uses it. but making one single ASIA article would be cofusing, as there are more than one channel in Asia, each section represented a different version of the channel, and what im sayin is NOT original research, just check their websites, they EVEN HAVE A FORUM, so ask them yourself (if you want to?)!!!
and the external links must be changed, the japanese website is NOT the official website, they ALL are, only the japanese channel and website was the first to be created.
and im NOT sayin (and i NEVER did say that) that she oughta give proof for what shees doin, im just sayin the programmes added were on the channel, Men in Black aired in Animax Asia, Pink Pnther, Godzilla, GameMax aired in South Asia, just ask it on their forums if you like!!! --Too Cool 07:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I am saying that you ought to give proof for your own edits. That's the standard in the Wikipedia, and the reason she reverted some of your changes. A forum is not a reliable source. You still havn't explained your changes to the article's sectioning, or why you changed the external links as much as you did. I do admit that it saying "Official Website" is a bit much. The logo is a really odd sticky point; the Japanese branch is the oldest and is where the company is based, so I'd still think that logo in particular should be emphasized. Still, like I said, bring this to the talk page and try to get some discussion going on with the other user before going all angry. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 07:16, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Never mind the bit about the logo, switched it back to the plain blue. I still don't get your changes to the sections though. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 07:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


but, you didnt even answer the original question-
Isnt there any place where we can complain about somneone
cuz i DONT think this place was meant for big discussions like THIS!!! --Too Cool 07:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
In a sense, your question was answered, which was that complaints without evidence and mindless yelling about people aren't welcome on Wikipedia and that we strive for consensus and like sourcing things. It was also answered in the sense that you can post on the talk page of the article in question, which is where the other party posted her concerns. —Keakealani 08:11, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
This discussion does not really concern me (most of the concerns raised have been answered in their respective talk pages) and I don't want to prolong this discussion, but I just wanted to correct that I'm actually a "he", male, lol (^_^). Ganryuu (talk) 08:25, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

contacting Chris Regina

I am the Executive Producer of a forthcoming global 'hot-topic' of present day discussion science-fiction feature film. I am searching for Chris Regina to see if he may be interested in assisting towards the coming production. If he would like to know more, I will be delighted to do so. My e-mail address is <email address removed for spam protection>.

I think you may have mistaken this for something else. This is Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia anyone can edit. You have come across a help page for newcomers to Wikipedia. I can't help more than that, other than to suggest you look elsewhere. Sorry! —Keakealani 21:19, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
You might be intrested in our article about Chris Regina. 24.20.69.240 06:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Asko Makitalo article

Can someone assist me in the process of either improving or putting the Asko Makitalo article out of its misery. I was patrolling new pages when I found it and refrained from putting in the speedy deletion tag due to the fact that the article claimed the subject was listed in Who's Who. I instead put it in articles for deletion listing a mention in who's who as not notable enough for wikipedia. The author took the tag down and expanded the article some but as far as I can tell this article doesn't belong in Wikipedia. I would improve the article but a Google search reveal only posts to forum discusions. Since there is resistance from the author (whom I'm guessing is the subject of the article), and since I am new at page administration, I am unsure that I will be unable to properly follow this process to completion. Can someone assisst in the notability assessment process for this article? --Zudduz 14:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

It seems you placed a {{prod}} tag on the article, which was removed (legitimately, because anyone can remove a prod tag). If you still think the article ought to be deleted (the Google results would suggest that maybe it is), you should go via the Articles for deletion process; see AfD in 3 steps for information as to how to do this. The notability or otherwise of the article is likely to be more fully assessed there. --ais523 14:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Internal AND external link

In writing an article, I wish to both give an internal link to an article about a particular related organization, and to give a direct external link to one of the organization's web pages that is appropriate to that part of the discussion and also want link to the article about that organization. (It is, for example, the first time the name is mentioned in the article.) I could reword it and say it twice, but is there any more elegant solution?DGG 18:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Just put the external link in square brackets without any name attached. That makes it look like this: [4]. Generally, one should avoid using external links the same way as wiki-links. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#External links. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:27, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Not quite the answer--surely we also want to inform the reader there's an articles about it? DGG 22:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I meant the external link should be treated that way. The internal wikilink should be treated normally (ie. ...the product was marketed by company...). Your external articles should probably be added to an "External links" section. Again, as the Manual says, we don't treat external links as we do wiki-links.-- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
  • If the organization has an article, link there. Smart readers will know where to find the external link. Only link it externally if it is important to the article and not tangentially related. - Mgm|(talk) 09:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Enforcing of rules

This is actually two questions in one: What to do when a user breaks Wikipedia "rules" or ignores comments by other users?

Two examples:

  1. What if a user does not want to abide to the "Manual of Style"?
  2. What if a user keeps reverting an edit (which is based on consensus gathered elsewhere), without discussing his/her edits?

Thanks.--Panarjedde 22:15, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, the manual of style is just a guideline. It doesn't necessarily have to be followed or result in someone being blocked for not following it. Most content disputes should follow the dispute resolution process. However, if they're systematically trying to screw up articles by intentionally breaking the MoS and repeatedly reverting changes to fix it, you could probably report them to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. As for constant reverts, there's the three revert rule, and the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. More focused questions:
  1. What if the MoS is backed by a previous Arbitration decision in the same sense? I mean, the MoS was modified according to this Arbitration.
  2. What if the reverts do not break the 3RR? This user does not discuss the matter, simply reverts, but since there is just one other user (me), he will not break the 3RR before I do (but I do not want).
--Panarjedde 22:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
  • People who intentionally fail to communicate are usually blocked. Repeated reverting without discussion that stays within the 3 rv in 24 hours can still break the spirit of the rule and have a block applied. 3 reverts are a privilege not a right. - Mgm|(talk) 09:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Merging or appending stubs to form a bigger, better page

The page I created recently, Mint chocolate, has been tagged as a stub. But, some of the retail products I've listed at the bottom of my page are stubs themselves, and are much smaller. Rather than linking my stub to theirs, can I merge or append their content onto my page? If so, how the heck do I do this? (Searching the FAQ and the archives page was a bust - or did I just not look in the right place...?) DOSbox-gamer 08:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

  • You could merge them, but I don't think you need to. There's enough to be told about mint chocolate in general to add to the article without merging the articles for specific brands. Maybe, the article on chocolate gives you an idea on what to include? - Mgm|(talk) 09:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi I'm new...

I think this is a fantastic project and would like to help, unfortunately I'm not too clued up so don't want to cause any damage. Perhaps I could be part of the welcoming commitee? Louisemil 08:20, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes, just add your name to the list and learn how to leave welcome templates on talk pages and you're ready to go. - Mgm|(talk) 09:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

How do you change the title of an article? Anyone feel free to comment on my talk page. Thank you Moorematthews 17:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC) You can't. Just redirect it to the correctly spelled article or put it up for deletion and create the correctly spelled article. --JDitto 07:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Main and sub articles

I edited a page and removed information that was detailed in a sub article and the edit was reverted. See the September 11 Attacks page for details. What is the usual policy for main and sub articles - could you point me to it? Thanks. --PTR 20:38, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind.--PTR 21:27, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Finding out birth parents

hi, i'm new at all of this so if this is stupid thats me.Dose this site have capabilitys os finding out birth parents throu adoption agencys in 1957 in like say ohio.I was born at chyahoga county general hospital 12/21/1957 and put in a agency as baby boy jimmy said on adoption agency certificate I belie I was 1-1/2 years old when leslie eldon galbreath and ruth ann yarman (madin last)galbreath from acron or cleavland Ohio if not do you know whare to thak me to? thank you David E.Galbreath ---- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Galbreathdavid (talk • contribs) .

Sorry, but Wikipedia can't do that. Articles about persons need to meet a certain criteria of notability (arts, politics, sports, etc), thus the only way you may find them here is if they meet it. Even then, it is possible the information found in the articles would not help you out. I am sorry we can't help you. -- ReyBrujo 21:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
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