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[edit] Record For Joe Harvey & Kevin Keegan
Somebody should add upp the number of games played, then add up games won, drawn and lost.
I've put the records down for all the managers now, as well as their start and finsh dates. Bababoum 14:25, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removed section on Europe
Not really needed for the main article. Perhaps it could fit into a new article such as Newcastle United F.C. Seasons or Newcastle United F.C. in Europe. I've left the article below to maintain it and so it can be extended before being added to a more suitable article. Bababoum 19:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Europe
[edit] UEFA Cup 2006-07
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After finishing 7th in the Premiership in 2005-06, Newcastle qualified for the Intertoto Cup. They successfully navigated Lillestrom in the Intertoto Cup Third Round, and Latvian minnows FK Ventspils in the UEFA Cup Second qualifying round, to enter the First Round proper of the UEFA Cup drawing the FC Levadia Tallinn (the first ever Estonian side to make it that far) in the First Round.
UEFA Intertoto Cup Third Round
Lillestrøm S.K. 1-4 (agg) Newcastle United F.C.
UEFA Cup Second qualifying round
FK Ventspils 0-1 (agg) Newcastle United F.C.
UEFA Cup First Round
FC Levadia Tallinn 1-3 (agg) Newcastle United F.C.
The group stage draw was held on October 3. Newcastle were drawn in Group H. They needed to finish in the top 3 to go through into the final 32.
Group Stage - Group H
| Team | Pts | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1.  Newcastle United F.C. |
10 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 1 | 3 |
2.  R.C. Celta de Vigo |
5 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 0 |
3.  Fenerbahçe S.K. |
4 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 1 |
4.  U.S. Città di Palermo |
4 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 6 | -3 |
5.  Eintracht Frankfurt |
3 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 5 | -1 |
Group Stage Fixtures/Results:
Oct 19, 2006: Newcastle United F.C. 1-0 Fenerbahçe SK
Nov 2, 2006: Palermo 0-1 Newcastle United F.C.
Nov 23, 2006: Newcastle United F.C. 2-1 Celta Vigo
Nov 30, 2006: Eintracht Frankfurt 0-0 Newcastle United F.C.
Round of 32
Feb 15, 2007: S.V. Zulte-Waregem 1-3 Newcastle United F.C.
Feb 22, 2007: Newcastle United F.C. 1-0 S.V. Zulte-Waregem
Round of 16
March 08, 2007: Newcastle United F.C. 4-2 AZ Alkmaar
March 15, 2007: AZ Alkmaar 2-0 Newcastle United F.C.
[edit] Intertoto Cup 2005
After finishing 14th in the 2004-05 premiership, Newcastle failed to qualify for Europe but qualified for the Intertoto Cup after several teams passed on the opportunity. They lost to Deportivo de La Coruña in the intertoto cup semi finals.
- Third Round
- FK ZTS Dubnica 1-5 Newcastle United F.C. (1st leg 1-3 2nd leg 0-2)
- Semi Finals
- Deportivo de La Coruña 4-2 Newcastle United F.C. (1st leg 2-1 2nd leg 2-1)
[edit] UEFA Cup 2004-05
Newcastle entered the UEFA cup after finishing 5th the previous season. They reached the Quarter-finals
- First Round
- Newcastle United F.C. 7-1 Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin FC
| Team | Pts | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. Newcastle United F.C. |
10 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 1 | +7 |
2.  FC Sochaux-Montbéliard |
9 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 0 |
3.  Sporting Clube de Portugal |
7 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 9 | 3 | +6 |
4.  Panionios NFC |
3 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 6 | 8 | -2 |
5.  FC Dinamo Tbilisi |
0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 13 | -11 |
- Round of 32
- SC Heerenveen 2-4 Newcastle United F.C.
- Round of 16
- Olympiacos 1-7 Newcastle United F.C.
- Quarter-finals
- Newcastle United F.C. 2-4 Sporting Clube de Portugal
[edit] Europe 2003-04
In 2002-03 Newcastle achieved a 3rd place in the Premiership, however after losing the Third qualifying round for the champions league to FK Partizan on penalties from a 1-1 tie at the end of the 2 legs Newcastle entered the Uefa cup, progressing all the way to the semi finals
- First Round
- Newcastle United F.C. 6-0 NAC Breda
- Second Round
- FC Basel 2-4 Newcastle United F.C.
- Third Round
- Vålerenga I.F. 2-4 Newcastle United F.C.
- Fourth Round
- Newcastle United F.C. 7-1 RCD Mallorca
- Quarter-finals
- PSV Eindhoven 2-3 Newcastle United F.C.
- Semi-finals
- Newcastle United F.C. 0-2 Olympique de Marseille
[edit] UEFA Champions League 2002-03
After finishing 4th in the 2001-2002 Premiership season Newcastle entered the Champions League Third Qualifying round, progressing to the Second Group Stage.After losing their first three games in the opening group stage, qualification had looked unlikely. However, Newcastle went on to win their last three games and reach the second group stage. No other team in European Champions League history has reached the second group stage after losing their first three games.
- Third qualifying round
- FK Željezničar 0-5 Newcastle United F.C.
| Team | Pts | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. Juventus F.C. |
13 | 6 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 12 | 3 | +9 |
| 2. Newcastle United F.C. |
9 | 6 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 6 | 8 | -2 |
3.  FC Dynamo Kyiv |
7 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9 | -3 |
4.  Feyenoord Rotterdam |
5 | 6 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 8 | -4 |
| Team | Pts | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. FC Barcelona |
16 | 6 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 12 | 2 | +10 |
| 2. Internazionale Milano F.C. |
11 | 6 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 11 | 8 | +3 |
| 3. Newcastle United F.C. |
7 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 10 | 13 | -3 |
| 4. Bayer Leverkusen |
0 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 5 | 13 | -8 |
[edit] UEFA Intertoto Cup winner 2006
We have to define what meaning of UEFA Intertoto Cup winner is.
There is two winners, Third Round winner and overall winner. The overall winner of UEFA Intertoto Cup 2006 is Newcastle.
Shall we discuss now.
Before a decision was made, the overall winner of UEFA Intertoto Cup 2006 still be here.
KyleRGiggs 11:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused - going by the explanation at the UEFA site, the competition ends after the third round, so there doesn't seem to be an official "overall winner". Unless I'm missing something and UEFA has a formula for picking one winner out of the eleven, to declare an overall winner is arbitrary and POV. Ytny (talk) 17:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
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- No they have been awarded the trophy for 2006 - see the official UEFA confirmation. It's the first time UEFA have done this - the team that gets furthest in the UEFA Cup from the Intertoto entrants is declared 'winner'. Qwghlm 19:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks for that. I was confused with the format change - back then, they were all winners! --Ytny (talk) 19:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- You have still not answer the question - What the definition of UEFA Intertoto Cup shown in wikipedia is. kYLE RaymonD GIGGS 06:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- This is why UEFA Intertoto Cup doesn't hold a final. Because the overall winner is not decided in the third round. So Third round is not the final. kYLE RaymonD GIGGS 06:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- No they have been awarded the trophy for 2006 - see the official UEFA confirmation. It's the first time UEFA have done this - the team that gets furthest in the UEFA Cup from the Intertoto entrants is declared 'winner'. Qwghlm 19:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh I found the article in the regulation of UEFA Intertoto Cup 2006
2.01 The clubs which qualify for the second qualifying round of the UEFA Cup and which subsequently go furthest in the competition each recieve a UEFA Intertoto Cup trophy.
That's it. So Newcastle is the UEFA Intertoto Cup trophy holder, but uefa.com made 11 winners sometimes. It let me confused of which winner should be declared. kYLE RaymonD GIGGS 07:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- The link you supply there clearly says Newcastle were the club awarded the trophy outright (end of third paragraph), so they are the overall winner out of the eleven "winners" at the trophy's end. I don't see where the confusion lies. Wikipedia doesn't get to define who the winner is (that would be original research), it can only report what UEFA has declared, and in this case Newcastle are the trophy-holders. Qwghlm 17:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Nope, UEFA made double-standard. At the fourth paragraph, 11 winners shown! So how should we put the honour. kYLE RaymonD GIGGS 08:02, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New manager....not.
Er. Ryan ward ISNT our manager. So i er. changed it back to Glenn. Is there anyway we can stop idiots changing that kind of info?
