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[edit] Merger with/to/from New Year's Eve
- Discussion from both articles should go here.
I've suggested this merger because so many New Year's events start before midnight NYE (New Year's Eve), occur at the stroke of midnight, and continue during the early hours of NYD (New Year's Day). I'm not a strong advocate of merger, although I think it probably should be done. I am a strong advocate of cleaning up the duplications between the two pages. The third article, New Year, should also be considered. --Mark Adler (Markles) 19:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Maybe some sort of navigation box?
| The New Year
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| New Year's Eve | New Year | New Year's Day |
--Mark Adler (Markles) 19:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
I agree with the merge, things shouldn't be divided into so many groups when one is sufficent in covering them all. Steven 1:00, January 1, 2006 (UTC) PS. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
[edit] Merger with New Year
Perhaps this page should be merged with New Year? — Monedula 23:49, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
- I kinda agree --Navidazizi 02:15, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I don't think that they should be merged. This article is about January 1st in the Gregorian calendar, and the New Year article is about all the different New Year celebrations in different calendar systems. This article, especially, needs to make it clearer what it is about. Also, the information in the "New Year's Day" article that is about non-January 1st New Year celebrations should probably be removed, but rather than just a "See also" at the bottom, there should be a specific note at the very top of the article that says something like: "This article is about January 1st in the Gregorian calendar. For all other New Year celebrations, see the New Year article." gK ¿? 06:12, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT TRADITIONS (one a party night, one is a bank hol (at least in the UK))Medscin 19:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree with the proposal to merge the two articles. New Year's Eve and New Year's Day are two distinct items. There are things that happen on New Year's Eve that have no connection to New Year's Day Harry Hayfield 21:29, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree with this proposal. They're two different days, for crying out loud! Matt Yeager 23:47, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I agree with the idea. Granted, they are 364/365 days apart, but the holidays are tied because they are one day after the next. That's like suggesting that there shouldn't be an article about the weekend because Saturday is the end of the week and Sunday is the start of the week. It shouldn't be merged with the New Year topic. That has nothing to do with the holiday, but what cultures celebrate their New Year. Rosh Hashanah has nothing to do with New Year's Eve or New Year's Day. The topic name should be changed to something other than just New Year. 05:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
I would not agree to a merge, Consider, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day or all hallows eve (Halloween) and all Saints Day. While each is linked to the other, they are still two different days. Each eve and each day has its own unique meaning. a Seperate listinfg is need to explain each , G Hall Sydney Australia.
Strongly Disagree as they are different. You drink at night, the other is federal. User:Wikipedical 18:10, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Strongly Disagree, because of reasons above. gtdp ([talk]) ([contribs]) 00:57, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Disagree, two different days! Scottmso 04:00, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
I strongly disagree with merging the two articles. As others have mentioned, the two articles cover completely different subject matter, and a merge together would do a disservice to both. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Strongly Disagree. The New Year article covers a lot of different celebrations. There's a Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. And besides, Jan. 1 is my birthday. HiFiGuy 02:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Traditions.
How about mentioning 'first footing', the tradition of a tall man with dark hair going out just before midnight (the 12 o'clock at the end of New Year's Eve) with a lump of coal, dry bread, etc to bring in good luck to the household after the stroke of midnight?
[edit] Changing Something, explaining here
"It is still celebrated as a holy day on January 14 by those who still follow the Julian calendar such as followers of some of the Eastern Orthodox churches known as Old Calendarists."
That is not NPOV. That is taking the point of view of someone who follows the Gregorian calender. New Year's Day is celebrated on January 1 by followers of the Julian Calender, but it is January 14 in the Gregorian Calender. The wording is incorrect.
I am changing it to as follows: "It is a holy day to many of those who still use the Julian calendar, which includes followers of some of the Eastern Orthodox churches, and is celebrated thirteen days later on January 14 of the Gregorian calendar due to differences between the two calendars."
I believe that the new wording is more neutral. Bsd987 04:11, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- If you reread your change, I don't think that the mere act of following the Julian calendar or not will make your New Year's Day holy (ok, so all of those followers, to my knowledge, are Eastern Orthodox). What I'm getting at is that regardless of whether you follow the Julian or Gregorian calendars, New Year's Day is still holy to the Eastern Orthodox. (And other folks? They can be added, too.)
- Perhaps it could be changed to "To followers of the Eastern Orthodox religion, January 1 is the day to celebrate the feast of the Circumcision of our Lord. The actual day that this occurs may differ depending on whether a church follows the Julian or Gregorian calendars, but is always ('January 1' or 'a week after Christmas.')" (We might choose to end that sentence with the latter because more people understand that for some Eastern Orthodox, Christmas is in January.)
- New calendar churches, like the Orthodox Church in America, for example, celebrate it on Gregorian January 1, but Old Calendar churches, like ROCOR, celebrate it on Julian January 1.
- HiFiGuy 02:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
HAPPY NEW YEAR ON MON JAN 1, 2007.
It's 19:42 on Sat Dec 30, 2006 in Santiago(City approx 10 mins drive NE of Cordon),Isabela(Province approx 8 hrs NE of Manila,Metro Manila),Philippines. My site is at http://www.michaelmanalolazo.go.cc
HAPPY HOLIDAYS 2006/2007.
Happy New Year =) (its 1:17 1st Jan 2007 here) (= Ben Hamid =) 01:18, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Citing reference for New Year's resolutions
A note has been included to cite a reference for the most common New Year's resolutions, yet there is no corresponding note on the separate article New Year's resolutions. Either both articles should cite a source for this, or niether. I suggest that a reference should be included, but wouldn't know where to find one, as it seems to be more "common sense" but would require some sort of poll to verify. Sroc 11:46, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
