Talk:New Socialist Group
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[edit] Caution
It is impossible to exaggerate the lack of political importance of both NSG and the original International Socialists (Socialist Workers Party).
These groups are mostly vanity clubs around the personalities of the professors who create them. They arise and split as these personalities move and change. They depend on a new influx of naive students each year for their new recruits.
[edit] I love the internet
I really do! Yay! It grinds axes real good.
[edit] and this particular axe is coming from.....
a student staff or faculty member at the university of toronto. hmmmmm.
- Well, that may be true, but the address 64.228.141.248 is in this IP block:
- Sympatico SYMP20003-CA (NET-64-228-128-0-1) 64.228.128.0 - 64.228.159.255
- Mindmatrix 01:49, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
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- Let me try that again, for the vandal on the article page. The address 69.158.165.196 is in this IP block:
- Bell Canada BELLNEXXIA-11 (NET-69-156-0-0-1) 69.156.0.0 - 69.159.255.255
- Sympatico HSE SYMJ042104-CA (NET-69-158-164-0-1) 69.158.164.0 - 69.158.167.255
- A Sympatico High-speed Edition user on the Bell Nexxia system.
- Mindmatrix 01:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC
- Let me try that again, for the vandal on the article page. The address 69.158.165.196 is in this IP block:
[edit] childishness of sectarian left politics
This is childish. It really is. I have no illusions in the capabilities of any of the far left groupings in Canada to accomplish much at all, but at least the NSG doesn't pretend to be The Future Revolutionary Party, inflate its numbers, hand out membership cards like candy, shove its paper in people's faces, etc. etc.
The NSG doesn't mention the I.S. on its website? Why should it? Its members would rather have nothing to do with that style of organizing and all the sectarian mudslinging on the left. The number of current members of the NSG that originate in the I.S. is actually a minority.
The NSG is tiny? By what standards and with what objective measure? If you have accurate numbers, post them. Otherwise shut up. I don't see anywhere on the NSG's website where they claim to be anything Big(tm), so why is it even an issue?
David McNally seems like a nice, fairly intelligent guy. More modest than most far lefters I've met. Why is some decade old soap opera drama between him and various I.S. members even a discussion?
So can the wack-job sectarian idiots please just let the article be informative, have a modicum of objectivity, and not be derogatory?
- Speaking of whack-jobs, do take a gander at Sectarianism and see if you can improve, expand, and find attributions for it. I've contributed what I'm able, and it's still been found lacking.
- Also, is there any information out there about anarchism within the NSG? My impression was that during the first two or three years of its existence, the NSG cross-fertilized itself with a anarchist current – but this is culled mainly at third-hand from an IS friend of mine and one or two NSG acquaintances. Solidarity, QuartierLatin1968
21:32, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- There was a current with the NSG, centered around its Guelph branch of the time, that had sympathies with anarchism and direct action politics. Last time I was around the NSG, they were no longer involved with the grouping.Ryandaum 01:51, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed deletion
I have delted the proposed deletion tag. other than the tag itself, there's nothing to explain the rationale for the deletion. Since the proposal comes from the same person who added in the reference to a split from the Group, it could be a POV suggestion. --Duncan 22:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
