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[edit] Marxists and the Propagandhi reference

"The song "The Marxist Brothers," which mocks Marxists and anarchists, contains a satirical reference to Propagandhi's album Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes."

I don't think this is true. The song doesn't mock Marxists and anarchists, but rather the type of self-satisfied leftists who fail to practice what they preach and wittingly submit to the capitalist system they're supposedly opposing. As for the Propagandhi reference, the line goes "Still I'm waiting to see if my bid on eBay was enough to get 'Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes' on Soviet red vinyl". Is that really supposed to be a jab at the band?--The preceeding unsigned was made by Quirk.

Actually it is a jab at Propagandhi by way of the next line: "It's goin' on the wall next to Tubthumper and The Battle of Los Angeles.". Both albums were from politically charged underground bands but somehow managed to show up as almost entirely apololitical releases on the pop-charts (especially Tubthumper as nearly none knows that Chumbawumba is an anarchist group.)
I'll work on incorporating this into the article (and Wolves in Wolve's Clothing) when I have time.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lwieise (talkcontribs).

[edit] Golden Boys

Where is the evidence that The Cramps wrote or even recorded golden boys? I could not find any evidence of this anywhere. Fat mike said in the first fat wreck chords podcast that the song was written by Darby Crash, this is the closest I have found to the origin of this song. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.59.228.177 (talk • contribs).

I was in error when I attributed Golden Boys to the Cramps. You are correct that it was the Germs. I wrote the former because I had that floating around in my head at the same time too (possibly because 7" of the Month Club does have a Cramps cover. The liner notes for NTAH give credit of Golden Boys to "Pat Smear, Darby Crash, Tim Ferris, and Michelle Bell. Published by RuthenSmear Music (BMI). Originally recorded by Vagina Dentata." All people mentioned here were members of the Cramps. Vagina Dentata refers to Pat Smear's other band[[1]]. I'm still confused about what band this song should be attributed to but let's stick to the Germs rather than Vagina Dentata since Fat Wreck Chords did say that. Sorry about the mix-up! It should be fixed now.--Lwieise -=- Talk to Me 06:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)