Talk:Neighbours
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[edit] Recurring list
Why do people keep removing Hannah Greenwood, Marisa Siketa and Shane McNamara from the recurring cast members list? Kogsquinge 23:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Shane McNamara hasn't appeared since he fired Lyn from A Good Hair Day. Marissa apparently has left the show all together to focus on school, and I'm not sure why Hannah keeps getting removed. Hmm... I thought I put my info down here. Ah well. 124.177.224.8 11:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
PMA, please stop putting Shane McNamara and Marisa Siketa back up. Neither actors have appeared on the show in ages; show proof that they are still in the show, and I'll believe it. 124.177.241.81 07:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Original Channel/Network
Seven Network is shown as the "Original Channel". Even though thats what channel is started on, it makes it look like it is currently shown on Seven. I think that fact should be changed to...
Network: Seven Network (1985) Network Ten (1986 - present)
Thats my thoughts.
[edit] Actor leaving
Damien Bodie leaving was reported in The Herald Sun. Trying to find an online link though. - I Am Me.
[edit] Rocky Horror Show cast?
I remember reading in TV Week sometime in 2004, that the cast performed in a Rocky Horror Show play. I've added it to a Trivia section, but I can't recall who played who. All I remember is that Marcella Russo played Magenta, and Blair McDonough and Alan Fletcher were in it too (the cast were entirely Neighbours actors, but those are the only ones I recall). Could people who know who played who add them to it? 124.178.198.249 08:50, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to remove it for now, seeing as I'm the only person who knows about it thus far. However, please leave this talk section up; if anyone knows about it in the future, and possibly has credible sources, please let us know. BTW, I remembered that Marisa Warrington played another character. 124.177.241.81 07:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Ooh, sorry for this, but I've found a link, but is sadly a Wiki page. Lucy De Ville. I'll still remove the section for now.
[edit] Greatest show?
I'm deleting the following POV sentence from the first paragraph:
It is conisderd the greatest show in the history of the Planet Earth and has netted more than AUS$1 billion for Grundy after being seen worldwide.
It was added by this anonymous user. I haven't reverted in order to keep more recent edits. Silver Nemesis 19:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Blake Stringer, Adam Scully
Does anyone know if these articles are accurate? -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 12:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It's possible Blake was the winner of that contest held to pick a new guy and girl for Neighbours cast members. We'll just have to wait and see... 124.177.241.81 06:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Marisa Siketa, Shane McNamara
These two actors have not appeared on Neighbours for a rather long time. I constantly have to remove them from the list, and have decided to put a citation needed flag up for them both. I thought it was made pretty clear that Shane wasn't appearing on Neighbours again after firing Lyn, and Marisa apparently has quit the show altogether to focus on school work. 124.177.229.111 07:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Whoops, I just discovered Marisa IS still in the show. I've removed the citation needed flag for her ; ) My bad. 124.177.229.111 08:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Just because Janet Andrewartha is leaving doesn't mean we won't see Gino again - he has been involved in storylines that don't involve Lyn, such as Ned's play last year. If he doesn't appear again by the end of the year I'll remove him. Kogsquinge 23:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Thankyou. 138.217.214.182 07:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Original channel in the infobox
There doesn't seem to be much agreement over what should be put in the infobox for original channel. I think this should say Seven Network, and nothing else. The text to the left of whatever is there says Original channel, not All networks the program is aired on in the country of origin or something to that effect. I'd like to know people's reasons for disagreeing with this, and for some sort of agreement or compromise to be reached. jd || talk || 16:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- Surely there could be a way to just change "Original Channel" to just "Channel". Or, Original Channel could remain, and Current Channel could be introduced. 144.131.239.123 07:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
- A change like that would have to be discussed on the infobox's talk page, but I don't see the point - it seems like unnecessary clutter to me. Information about the fact that it's no longer shown on Seven, and reasons for that, are already in the article. I think this should be enough. jd || talk || 10:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
- Clutter? I'm sure two more words could not possibly hurt. 124.177.240.12 06:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think it would, and putting (Currently Network Ten) in the box is worse than what some people wanted there in the first place. As I've pointed out before, the box says Original channel, and according to Wiktionary, original can mean First in a series or Having as its origin. If we were to go by one of those definitions, there'd be no room for Network Ten anyway. I think having it written in the text is enough. JDtalk 07:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Clutter? I'm sure two more words could not possibly hurt. 124.177.240.12 06:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- A change like that would have to be discussed on the infobox's talk page, but I don't see the point - it seems like unnecessary clutter to me. Information about the fact that it's no longer shown on Seven, and reasons for that, are already in the article. I think this should be enough. jd || talk || 10:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, I just feel it's too strange to not include Network Ten there. But whatever, I'll leave it now. It's really not worth the hassle. 124.177.240.12 07:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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- To me, original channel in this usage, refers to the original channel of initial broadcast / production of the episode in question. Like, US comedy series Get Smart from the 1960s might get rerun in Australia on Network Seven, but clearly that is not the original channel of the episodes/series itself. As far as I am concerned, since 1986 the original channel is Network Ten. To interpret original in this usage as the first channel in the series production seems highly faulty because it is not the norm for programs to switch channels - especially not in Australia. Format 03:53, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] "in Australia"
Could people please stop adding "in Australia" or "in Australian episodes" when referring to cast lists, airdates and storylines? Neighbours is an Australian show, and Australia gets the latest episodes, so I think most people would assume that it refers to Oz airdates. Also because the actual storylines themselves are "current" in Australia (for example, the characters celebrate public holidays at the same time they are happening in real life). Kogsquinge 01:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, you're probably right about other countries' airdates in general, but I think the UK is a special case. Neighbours is watched by far more people in the UK than in Australia, and the BBC has a certain amount of editorial control over the show (they can change or veto storylines for example) - so I think the UK airdates should be given just as much prominence as the Australian ones. 217.155.20.163 22:12, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Individual article for "Erinsborough"?...
Much of the contect of this article seems to be discussing the fictional location of Erinsborough, rather than the content of the Series itself.
I would like to suggest that Erinsborough become its own article (rather than a redirect), to allow for more appropriate focus in the articles (that is, discuss the town of Erinsborough in "Erinsborough", while discussing the Series proper in "Neighbours"). This follows the WP:FICT guidelines, too.
Just a thought, but I feel it would be a positive move. Gonzerelli 13:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Just go for it, don't wait for authorisation from the mods. I would...Maybe that's why I was blocked on my old account...but still, just go for it and make the Erinsborough page. Neoballmon II 09:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Spoiler tags… again…
I have removed the following spoiler tags from the Storylines section. As well as being completely unnecessary, given this is an Australian show (as discussed previously), they are also incorrect: -
Spoilers for viewers outside the UK follow
Spoilers for viewers outside the UK end here
The paragraphs in question are spoilers for UK fans, too!! Silver Nemesis 19:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Spoilers
Previous spoiler warnings have been incorrect (mentioned UK instead of Australia) and have not used the correct formatting. I have inserted a spoiler warning (at the start of the Storylines section) using the correct Wiki formatting.
As this is an article which can be read world wide, some viewers of Neighbours may not wish to be informed of upcoming storylines. The article should be directed at all readers, not just those in Australia because the show originates in Australia. Genius12 17:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Senior Cast Members... why?
Just wondering; why are the actors who have been with the show for years been put up in the infobox? It seems like clutter to me, especially seeing as there is a cast list below that. Hardcore gamer 48 02:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Putting a link to the cast section with the infobox there at the moment would just look stupid. I prefer the infobox that was there before, with the link to the cast section. J Di talk 10:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Aboriginal character
Has Neighbours ever featured an Aboriginal character, actor or storyline? 04:29, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I can't remember, to be honest. Why do you need to know, may I ask? Hardcore gamer 48 08:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
The show has featured at least one Aboriginal character and/or actor in the past. I don't recall any Aboriginal-related storylines as such. Note that Neighbours is set in Melbourne, there aren't many Aborigines there! 217.155.20.163 22:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I think there was a storyline once back in the 80s where Paul was going to build on to Lassiter's, but the site turned out to be an Aboriginal burial ground. Some aboriginal women came to his office to ask him to reconsider.
According to PerfectBlend.net, the only Aboriginal character who has appeared on Neighbours was Sally Pritchard Swanny 07:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Notable celebrity guest appearances for 2007
This could really do with some citations, as some of these seem highly dubious. Andrew G and Emma Bunton are plausible, but Jo Whiley? Michael Parkinson? Julian Clary? 217.155.20.163 22:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually Michael Parkinson is a true one - he has been seen by more than one person filming with Neighbours cast members. No citation as such though - it hasn't appeared in a magazine or anything.
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- How is it they are highly dubious? They are TV personalities, making an appearance in a different TV show. Happens all the time! Clary even did an Who Do You Think You Are? It is not like we are suggesting John Major is appearing. Melbn 08:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I admit it's purely subjective, based on the sort of people who have cropped up on the show in the past. Parky - fair enough, he may be a fan, who knows. However, I just can't imagine Jo Whiley or Julian Clary popping up in the Neighbours universe for some reason. (Do Australians even know who Jo Whiley is?) 217.155.20.163 23:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- No, Australians do not know who Jo Whiley is, but really Neighbours is produced primarily for a UK audience: many, many more viewers watch the show in the UK than they do in Australia (where the show gets less-than one million viewers per episode), the BBC partly funds the show, and the BBC reviews scripts before they are produced. Clive James, a Parkinson style TV personality, has himself appeared on Neighbours. Wasn't someone from the Pet Shop Boys also on Neighbours once? There are all sorts of reasons why TV and radio personalities make guest appearances in other shows, be it because they are a personal fan of the show, or as a requirement to fulfil contractual obligations to their network (eg for cross-promotional reasons, where both shows receive additional publicity). Several rather controversial (and somewhat "flamboyant") personalities have previously guested on Neighbours, such as Molly Meldrum, Warwick Capper and Shane Warne, so no real reason why the comparitively safe and inoofensive Clary can't. Melbn 01:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- I admit it's purely subjective, based on the sort of people who have cropped up on the show in the past. Parky - fair enough, he may be a fan, who knows. However, I just can't imagine Jo Whiley or Julian Clary popping up in the Neighbours universe for some reason. (Do Australians even know who Jo Whiley is?) 217.155.20.163 23:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Links
Okay, I don't get the problem - people keep deleting links and frankly I think it's childish. Given it's the nf.com links that are deleted all the time I assume they are trying to lay the blame at pb's door, when it's absolutely nothing to do with us. We can all live in harmony etc. etc. I have put the links back in twice today, for them to be deleted twice. Be adult!
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[edit] Robert Robinson
Someone keeps adding him to the "coming" section. Has this been confirmed? I keep adding a [citation needed] tag but it keeps getting deleted. Kogsquinge 07:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Apparently it was confirmed in TV Week with pictures or something, or so people say. Hardcore gamer 48 11:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Lewis Reed
Lewis Reed is orphaned and should probably be linked from here. Just wanted to point that out. I would do it myself but I don't feel I know enough about the show. --Selket 05:08, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cast list
Just a reminder that it is a list of CAST MEMBERS, not a list of characters. Therefore, the years reflect the time the ACTOR has been on the show. Also, "extended guest" is the same as "recurring". Adelaide Kane will not continue after her initial "recurring" contract is up. Sam Clark will. That is why Sam belongs in "current cast members" and Adelaide belongs in "recurring cast members". Kogsquinge 20:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
So... why was Christian Clark on the cast list if he was only on for three months? Hardcore gamer 48 00:49, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Christian was an exception because he was in the opening credits. Kogsquinge 07:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
But with all due respect, how do you know Adelaide won't be in the new opening credits? Sam isn't in it yet, either. Unless there's some website I don't know of that shows you the new opening... : S Hardcore gamer 48 05:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Hardcoregamer on that. Though I'm sure the reason why Christian was in the theme was only because his leave was sudden, he should have stayed on longer, making him permanent. The same goes with Adelaide, she could of stayed longer, though obviously due to her acting skills, she isn't good enough to remain on the show. I'd say that if Adelaide goes into the theme then that should make her a permanent. I'm sure Sam will though. Swanny 11:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
>_> Adelaide Kane is now on the opening credits. I suppose that makes her a main cast member now, right? Hardcore gamer 48 08:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] External Links
I removed some external links per WP:EL, but my edits have been reverted by IPs (diff). I'd like to know why the person behind the IPs thinks the links I have removed are valid; most of the links I removed are to forums or fansites, neither of which are recommended in external links sections. J Di 21:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh so its you who has been annoying everyone by deleting links!
What's wrong with showing links to fan sites? The Neighboursfans.com forum link was removed and that's supposed to be very popular! Swanny 11:35, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided; links to discussion forums should not be included in external link sections unless the links are to official websites. J Di 11:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- Recommended is the keyword. You're messing around with links to the core fan sites (of which a lot of the content and input here is from). Yes the links are messy but if you are linking to one fan site then it's fair enough that you link to all (I'd see less of a problem if you stripped all links except for those to the official site, IMDB and TV.com). SeK612 16:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- I've not got a problem with that, it would make things easier. J Di 16:53, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Recommended is the keyword. You're messing around with links to the core fan sites (of which a lot of the content and input here is from). Yes the links are messy but if you are linking to one fan site then it's fair enough that you link to all (I'd see less of a problem if you stripped all links except for those to the official site, IMDB and TV.com). SeK612 16:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Surely links to sites that have more information than the official site would be valid? I despair about this wiki, I really do. Lucy@NB
I have removed the "no more links" message when editing the neighbours page, there is no reason that this information should remain static forever, instead it should be free to be changed like the rest of Wikipedia. --Evan Roberts 18:14, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- J Di has reverted my deletion, and laughably told me to look at the discussion page! Perhaps if he had done so himself he would have seen that I had explained my edit above. As I have said, Wikipedia is a free to edit website, and if people can improve the list on links by adding new ones, no one should prevent them. J Di's stance is totally against both the rules and the spirit of Wikipedia --Evan Roberts 21:54, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- I would suggest both Neighboursfans.com and perfectblend.net are added to the list of links, The first for its comprehensive summaries of episodes, and perfectblend for the articles and other information it provides. Both are well known and widely respected fansites that Neighbours fans may be interested in. --Evan Roberts 22:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I think it's sensible to leave things as they are for the moment. A link to the official website and IMDB.com and TV.com keeps things simple and are considered acceptable by Wikipedia. SeK612 10:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Why? Other wikipedia pages for tv shows have external links to fansites? why can't neighbours? No point in keeping things simple for the sake of it, so unless someone gives good reasons not to I will add the above sites tomorrow. --86.147.35.39 16:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
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- As I understand it (I may be wrong), the regulations regarding the submission of External Links allows for informative fansites but not fanforums. Therefore all of the forums were deleted about a week ago. However there were complaints against the links being selective in this way and I think it was decided that it would be fairer to all concerned if all links (bar the official site, IMDB and TV.com) were deleted rather than some being allowed and some not. There's a statement to that effect further up this thread. -- Analog Kid 16:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
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- That's plain stupid. Akin to banning football forever just because of a bit of fighting between rival players. If I complain about IMDB being allowed while other informative sites aren't, are we to remove that link too? Other soaps on Wikipedia haven't taken such drastic action, so I don't see why Neighbours should either. Neighboursfans homepage plus perfectblend should be added as valuable resources, as far as I can tell no other Neighbours fansites provide particularly useful services or information that these two don't. Simple decision. --86.147.35.39 18:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
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- The Wikipedia guidelines are fairly clear as to what is desired for external links (if anything articles should have little or no external links with the focus on the content within articles than linking elsewhere). Other television articles, such as The OC, also have adopted the official link only route despite having several prominent fan sites. SeK612 18:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Yes the wikipedia guidelines are fairly clear, and it states that external links are welcome if they provide meaningful relevant content that supplements the Wikipedia article. Both the sites I have listed above fulfil this criteria more so than either IMDb or TV.com. Why useless commercial sites should be favoured above informative fansites I have no idea. You reference the OC page as another example of this silly policy, but a quick search of about a dozen popular TV programmes (including Home and away) show that the vast majority do link to fansites and have at least half a dozen links. --86.147.35.39 01:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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- As a side point, I've just noticed the three current links are also displayed in the infobox at the top right, so they're on the page twice. So really the External Links section at the bottom is now technically redundant. Can we make an argument for getting rid of it altogether? No links section, no fights (as logic would seem to dictate). -- Analog Kid 19:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Yea why not get rid of Wikipedia alltogether, get rid of loads of fights that way! This argument is totally against both the spirit and the policy of this website. --86.147.35.39 01:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia not a link database. There are several fan sites which could be linked to here but several began adding multiple links (funnily enough the ones that appear to be forced back into the link section) which caused problems. The fact remains that this current setup is accepted by Wikipedia (Imdb.com and TV.com have special templates to add them into articles so they are valid). SeK612 07:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Please, while wikipedia may not be a links database (who said it was?) links are allowed. You justify Imdb.com and TV.com not on their merits, but merely on the fact that they have a template! In any case all links have been deleted now. Are we going to continue this insane policy for the rest of wikipedia and delete all links on all pages? If not, why the exception for neighbours? Yes people may add too many links, which is against wikipedia policy so they shall be deleted. But you have no justification for breaking the spirit of wikipedia by deleting all links. External links play a very useful role on this website, let's not let some petty arguments get rid of this service, in the same way we don't let arguments prevent us from creating an encyclopedia. --217.42.236.66 13:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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- IMDB.com and TV.com are accepted as links for all television, movie and celebrity articles across Wikipedia. Besides all three of the sanctioned links are kept intact via the info box so there is no need for external links section if these are the only links being allowed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.156.44.1 (talk) 14:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
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- But they aren't the only links allowed, That's the point. Again, why have useless commercial sites that barely provide any information above and beyond this article acceptable, while useful resources that are dedicated to the soap not allowed, it makes zero sense.
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- Perhaps not but they are accepted by Wikipedia (check the code used in linking it's specifically designed for use within Wikipedia) and so are suitable for linking within the article as is the official Neighbours website. Whatever arguments about size of the other sites they are more susceptible to the external links guidelines.
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- As far as I'm concerned links should be given to Neighboursfans, Perfectblend and the smaller Erinsborough.com and Neighbours Source (I get the last two aren't rate as highly as the other more established sites but they do provide some content for fans). Since there has been a fair few problems (mostly just the stubborn edits from a host of guests) it doesn't seem unreasonable to strip all links out for the time being (bearing in mind that it's the smaller sites that suffer from such a move as the bigger fan sites aren't effected as much as they already have a big exposure amongst fans). SeK612 16:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Fair enough, perhaps I've underestimated the problems the links have caused. It would nice if we could could come to an agreement at some point on a few useful sites to add, I'll leave it at that. The priority should be those sites that have a community behind them and are regularly updated, rather than small sites that are simply a hobby for the webmaster, your list seems reasonable. --Evan Roberts 19:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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- There were problems and disagreements. Several sites decided that they wanted multiple links. There was also squabbling over the link positioning as several people felt that the order should be rearranged so the big sites were at the top.
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- I guess what's worth remembering is that all sites linked to benefit from the link (it's very much a case of Wikipedia doing the sites a favour) regardless of size of how established they are. This comes in the form of traffic due to the popularity of Wikipedia and its good rankings in search engines. SeK612 08:34, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Coming & Going Citations
I wanted to ask people about these, as I'm trying to help out with them. With Oliver Barnes, his arrival was confirmed in the Sunday Mail TV Guide (Queensland, Australia) on the Neighbours summary (January 30): "Will's brother arrives with startling news - and exposes Will as a fraud". Could that be good enough proof to remove his citation? (I guess it would only be until Monday or Tuesday anyway, when he moves to Current Cast). Also, Robert & Izzy's temporary reappearance was shown by pictures on a website (the link was in a certain nf.com forum). I would try and find it myself but my internet has slowed right down. Swanny 11:35, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- That should be okay. Can't help you with the forum problem though. J Di 11:49, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Okay here: http://www.thesoapshow.com/features/maconthebox.htm is a website that confirms Rowena Wallace, Rachel Gordon, David Hoflin's arrivals, as well as Izzy and Robert's return. J Di can you use this as a source in the article. I don't know how. Shamrock27 15:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, it's on there now. Thanks. J Di 15:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
http://www.byronbay.org/?p=295 - Article confirming Cleopatra Coleman's arrival. I doubt we'll get a source for the departure of Kerry Mangel as she is presumably leaving with her on-screen mother. Source are unlikely to mention the departure of an extremely young child. So besides that, thats all referenced then, isn't it? Shamrock27 16:38, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think we can use that as a reliable source because it looks like a blog, but the {{unreferencedsect}} template can be removed as almost everything in that section is sourced now. J Di 16:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
http://tvweek.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=176573 - Here we go. Shamrock27 17:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- I found that earlier, but forgot all about it... Anyway, that's all of them except for the baby now, but as you said it's unlikely that a source for that'll be found. J Di 17:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Well the baby and Kyal Marsh. It has been reported in the Herald Sun but I haven't found a proper online source that we can use yet. Shamrock27 17:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21128325-27258,00.html - There. It is mentioned near the end of the article. Shamrock27 23:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Locations/Groups, Societies and Competitions
I was wondering, is it necessary to have all of that info on the article which relates to Erinsborough itself when there is already an article with SOME of the information on it. I tried doing it myself, by moving the location list and the whole GSC section to the Erinsborough article, and just provide a link to it, but it got reverted. Swanny 07:24, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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- The detailed info about the Locations/Groups, Societies and Competitions is pretty pointless. This is meant to be an encyclopedia article about the show (you know, this fictional thing that is prodcued, scripted and directed, acted, taped, and broadcast), not an encyclopedia about the fictional story world within the show's story. Format 07:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I see what you mean. If the information is there, I'm not saying it's not useful, it could at least be moved to the Erinsborough article, seeing as the main Neighbours article is getting large, where as the Erins article isn't that big. I don't think the GSC section is that useful, though I saw that the Home and Away article has a similar thing. If it should all stay, then it should at least be moved to where it better belongs. Swanny 11:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well I moved the two sections again, seeing as there was no other objection to it. It is also good as well because the article was 43kb long, and after moving it it is now only 33kb. It looks a lot neater now too. I hope that it was a good idea, because I certainly think so.Swanny 07:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I see what you mean. If the information is there, I'm not saying it's not useful, it could at least be moved to the Erinsborough article, seeing as the main Neighbours article is getting large, where as the Erins article isn't that big. I don't think the GSC section is that useful, though I saw that the Home and Away article has a similar thing. If it should all stay, then it should at least be moved to where it better belongs. Swanny 11:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- The detailed info about the Locations/Groups, Societies and Competitions is pretty pointless. This is meant to be an encyclopedia article about the show (you know, this fictional thing that is prodcued, scripted and directed, acted, taped, and broadcast), not an encyclopedia about the fictional story world within the show's story. Format 07:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rachel Gordon's character
I can't find anything that confirms RG's character will be Dr. Jessica Raines. Does anyone have a source for this? Kogsquinge 05:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- There is no source for the character name as no-one knows yet. Someone's just kept annoyingly adding it in all the time - probably the same person that insists Rowena Wallace is playing Mary Crombie, the OAP that Joe, Toby and Sky lived next to in the country. Analog Kid 11:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cast Cull
Why are several of the main staff leaving in 2007?
Is this part of cost cutting,because of low viewing figures? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 159.134.148.134 (talk) 12:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC).
Stephanie McIntosh, Damien Bodie and Ben Nicholas are leaving of their own accord to pursue other things. Adelaide Kane was axed, possibly due to her less-than-Oscar-winning acting. Kyal Marsh was axed because his character's family was gone and he had become "dead wood". It is unknown why Sianoa Smit-McPhee and Nell Feeney are going. Kogsquinge 23:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- The latter two are probably leaving to avoid being typecast! --Ninevah 05:44, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Apparently Nell Feeney said at one of the Neighbours Nights in mid January that she wanted to stay, but the network wanted her gone. She was also encouraging Timmins fans to write in to Ten. Nell finishes recording this month though, so bar a last minute u-turn, Janelle is history. Analog Kid 17:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Main cast and recurring cast
How is it decided whether a character is a main character or recurring character? There was a lot of insistance that Lolly is currently a recurring character, when it turned out after all that she is now a main character. I ask this because of whether Glenn is staying as a permanent or is still a recurring. I'm guessing also that Oliver is a permanent, even though he hasn't been added to the opening titles yet. Neither Glenn or Oliver has decided to leave the show yet, so can someone please explain for me, because I cannot understand. Swanny 00:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)`
Now that she is in the opening credits, Lolly is a main cast member. Glenn hasn't been confirmed as a main cast member (I think she'll only stick around for a few months to stir up trouble for Boyd & Janae). I think it's safe to say that Oliver will be permanent, given that they're saying he'll "fill the void" left by Christian Clark. Kogsquinge 22:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cast section re-organisation
I have reorganised this section, updating headings and putting cast into alphabetical order for ease of reference. The guest appearances section has been incorporated into this 'Cast' section. Genius12 18:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Uhh... the cast list has always been in alphabetical order. Kogsquinge 22:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tom Oliver's departure
I have it on good authority that it's mentioned in the February edition of the Australian lifestyle magazine, Madison. It features quotes from Tom himself, so I wouldn't have thought it'd be fictitious. Analog Kid 00:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you possibly get a scan for us? Personally, I don't doubt you, but other people might... Hardcore gamer 48 03:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I doubt it's trustworthy, because it's on a forum, but here's a link to where somewhere typed it out (or a portion of it at least): http://www.neighboursfans.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15544 Swanny 10:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Just because it's on a forum it doesn't necessarily mean it's automatically rubbish. I'll ask for a scan though. If the story turns out to be false, I'll be happy to delete it myself (I don't have any complex where I have to be right all the time, so that's no problem). Analog Kid 12:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- I was just on my way to take it down, but I see it already has been. As a specific magazine was mentioned and actual quotes posted, this sounded more genuine than the usual 'friend of a friend of a friend' stuff. However the story's now been thrown into doubt, so it's probably best to leave Tom off the going list for now. We'll see what progresses. The original poster was an unknown, so it could have went either way. Analog Kid 23:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Andrew Larkins' return
It has also been posted on nfans.com that Andrew Larkins is returning as Tom Scully - he's going to be the principal of Erinsborough High. I haven't put this on the live page yet considering the skepticism over the Tom Oliver thing, but the person who announced this has been very reliable with her information in the past (she's well respected on nfans). I shall wait for a press/media article though before adding him if you all wish. Analog Kid 12:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Isn't Tom Scully the priest that Susan dated? Why would he be a school principal? Kogsquinge 04:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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- He quit the priesthood during his first stint. As for school principal, why not? Apparently he already has teaching experience from his years at theological college. Analog Kid 17:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Benjamin Hart
It was confirmed in this week's TV Week that his character's name is Adam Rhodes. Please don't delete it again. Kogsquinge 09:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Well next time please mention where the info comes from. Otherwise you have to rely on the source and that didn't prove anything. Not everyone does read TV Week. Swanny 11:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Past Neighbours Regular Characters
Is it possible to find a place to link to Past Neighbours Regular Characters from this page? It seems to have a page of past characters. Squids'and'Chips 17:39, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cast section
I have re-inserted the cast info into the main article, as is done with other soaps. Why should Neighbours be any different? Kogsquinge 01:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I moved it into a new article as the Neighbours article was fairly big, and I looked at the Home and Away article and they only have the main cast section on their article. Swanny 06:01, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
But just because the H&A article is like that, does it mean this article should? And does it really matter how big an article gets? I think it's only fair that recurring members get mentioned, as well as coming & going, etc. Hardcore gamer 48 06:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I guess not. It was just an idea I had and people weren't happy with it so we leave it how it was. Thanks anyway. Swanny 21:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Adam Scully?
Someone reintroduced Adam Scully into Comings and Goings. This time it did show a source, though it's from a magazine. Can someone please verify it? Swanny 21:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Adam Scully is going to be on when his father Tom becomes principal of the High School.
[edit] Order of the cast list
Who here agrees the original way the cast list was organised (alphabetical order according to actor) was much better than the way it currently is (in order by year)? I'm tempted to change it back to that, but I'd like to hear everyone elses opinions first. Hardcore gamer 48 05:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I changed it back, as per other soap articles. Kogsquinge 07:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] G classification
some one added this piece of speculation/conjecture regarding the show's g classification: even thou it deals with such subjects as unwed pregnancies, teenage sex, adultery, verbal and physical abuse and attempted murder.
Now, where the WP article says that the g classifications designates the show as suitable for viewers of any age, that is a description of the g classification, not of the show itself. If anyone thinks that those elements should not be in a g classification program, then a complaint should be made to the australian government body that sets up these program classifications. Format 19:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Weird new names
Some weird new names have been added to the Coming list. Rachel Gordon's character's name was put as Courtney King (which I removed), and three other actors were added, with character names added. The source was put as the Adelaide Advertiser. I didn't remove it just in case it was true, but I can't find any other info on the net about it. Could someone try and verify it? Swanny 05:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I move to delete them. It seems suspicious that these would be confirmed in the Adelaide Adviser and yet none of them would have leaked onto the numerous big Neighbours websites. Unless someone is able to provide a scan or something else, I think its best to removie it.Shamrock27 13:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Damien Bodie's departure date
Latest spoilers posted on NF.com seem to indicate Dylan's departure on 2nd April [1], however I can't be sure whether its that day or the previous episode (30th March), so I added to the Coming and Goings both dates. Hope that's ok, if anyone can confirm which day, that would be good. Swanny 12:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New and returning actors
Scott Johnson, Rowena Wallace, Penny Cook, Andrew Larkins and Fiona Corke are all listed as just temporary for their upcoming roles. Does anyone know how long these roles are going to go for? Penny Cook is supposed to be on for a few months, with a possibility of an extension. I don't know about the rest though. Swanny92 01:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
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