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The article on NEDM has been deleted by consensus due to the absence of reliable sources. It will not be re-created unless it can be shown that the fad is notable, that is, it has been the focus of non-trivial coverage in multiple, reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. If you have evidence of such coverage (other than on YTMND.com itself), please list it below. If you are looking for information about the subject, remember that Wikipedia is not Google. See NEDM on YTMND Wiki.

Contents 1 It would be most valuable 2 Nobody answered my question 3 Article 4 Wikipedia hates internet culture 5 Grr... 6 Hurdy gurd

[edit] It would be most valuable

It would be most valuable if we were to chronicle and explain this phenomenon. Granted, it is a YTMND fad, but it is a part of American culture. Why should we have Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest and not this? Hattusa 10:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia policy requires that articles be verifiable in reliable sources. If you have some, please discuss them here. —ptk✰fgs 11:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

This page should be restored as a pop culture reference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.204.180.46 (talk • contribs).

Give some reliable sources and I'll consider it. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 22:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nobody answered my question

I am fairly new to wikipedia and would like to know the reasoning behind all of this hoopla about NEDM? User:Atomic Religione

A non-notable subject is one that lacks reliable sources against which enough material to form an article can be verified. NEDM was deleted (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NEDM) because it is just as non-notable as Nigga Stole My Bike. Which sources are you talking about? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 00:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you referring to the original quotes? Because it is verifiable, the quotes have been capped. 赤鈴姫 (Akarin) 19:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Verifiable in which sources? Please cite them below. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 19:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Why not just indicate that it doesn't contain verifiable sources than outright deleting it? The whole hoppla behind the encyclopedic ideals is pointless, wikipedia should be a source where you can go and learn about _anything_ not just whatever the administrators and editors deem "encyclopaedic". What real harm is there is leaving stuff like this up? It just generates more traffic for wikipedia and increases its value as a source for information. This isn't Britannica and it should try and pretend to be. --69.244.214.124 21:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem there is that people could then just make articles about anything, like 'the green wildebeest', and make up whatever they want, whereas Wikipedia is supposed to contain information that is widely well-known. So start a rumor about a green wildebeest and it'll get in Wikipedia eventually..

As far as NEDM, there are some sources about it, namely the ytmnd pages themselves and the ytmnd wiki mentioned earlier. Personally I think these are notable enough to merit a Wikipedia inclusion. I also think NEDM is funny. MGlosenger 21:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

What we need are secondary sources, those independent of YTMND. Can you find any reports about NEDM outside the ytmnd.com domain? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 21:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Here's a few:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=NEDM (has 3 pages of definitions)

http://www.notevendoommusic.com/

There are also quite a few message board posts and MySpace pages with NEDM references, showing that NEDM is well-known even if the posts/pages themselves are not usable as sources. MGlosenger 22:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Why can't there be a "see also" or redirect to coburn (band). Blocking the creation of one article shouldn't dead end a user from finding some shred of information. --x1987x^(talk) 15:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Because there are no reliable sources (i.e. sources not connected to YTMND) connecting NEDM with "We Interrupt This Program". If there were such a demand for information about NEDM outside YTMND, then other people outside YTMND would have reported on it.--Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 23:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article

N.E.D.M., short for 'Not Even Doom Music', refers to a smiling grey cat that pops up unexpectedly.

Enjoy, Wikipedia.

MGlosenger 01:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia hates internet culture

It's evident that Wikipedia has a bias towards internet culture. Am I right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.174.53.195 (talk • contribs).

We also eat babies, don't forget that. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 20:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Sadly, hardly anyone cares about NEDM outside of ytmnd.com. Even if the article weren't banned, there wouldn't be much to write. It would mostly be links to ytmnd sites. There just isn't much to say about the poor guy. NEDM is still funny, though. MGlosenger 01:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia also hates Brian Peppers. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{The internet • runs on Rainbows!}} 02:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hah, RECOGNIZE... it seems the media doesn't care about NEDM or Coburn, if VH1 (Best Week Ever) ran something about it perhaps there'd be a shred to help article creation. But nope. --x1987x^(talk) 18:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

We also, burn cats and put the videos on the web....wait a second --ÄtΘmicR€£igione^sїgñ

[edit] Grr...

Look. If you insist on not having a page for NEDM, can you at least merge the former article with an article called Fads on YTMND? I shall consider making that page... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Canada-kawaii (talk • contribs) 00:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC).

And what have you got source-wise on the fads? —C.Fred (talk) 02:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

That article was AFD'd (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of YTMND fads), moved to wiki.ytmnd.com, and expanded. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 02:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.

[edit] Hurdy gurd

Hurdy gurdy, hurdy gurdy, hurdy gurdy gurdy, he sang. Here comes the roley poley man, he's singing songs of love. Roley poley, roley poley, roley poley poley, he sang. Hurdy gurdy, hurdy gurdy, hurdy gurdy gurdy, he sang. Hurdy gurdy, hurdy gurdy, hurdy gurdy gurdy, he sang.

P.S.

Only use 'reliable sources'. You can tell a 'reliable source' because they look really reliable. Like, they'll have that haze of reliability surrounding them. It's not something you can define! And isn't Wikipedia all about the indefinable?

RELIABLE SOURCES!!!!!

MGlosenger 05:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)