Talk:Nectar source
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[edit] Needs expansion or renaming
"The plants listed below are plants that would grow in USDA Hardiness zone 5." -- Since the focus of the existing article is so narrow, it needs to be expanded or re-named. People are currently linking to this article inappropriatedly. [1] -- 22 december 2005
[edit] Page Improved
The old article has been moved to Northern Nectar Sources for Honeybees. SB Johnny 14:57, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightstallion (?) 08:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
Nectar source → Nectar : Nectar, the sweet plant liquid, is the overwhelming main use of nectar, so I moved Nectar to Nectar (disambiguation). However, there is no article about nectar, except nectar source. But sources of nectar should really be a section within a broader article on nectar, so I have started modifying nectar source in this light, and everything should make sense once it is moved to nectar. 21:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- "Nectar Source" is a technical term used in beekeeping, horticulture, and agriculture, and while perhaps not the "overwhelming main use", it does have a specific meaning and should be on a separate article. I'll write an article for plant nectar. SB Johnny 11:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- The new page is Nectar (plant). (Perhaps should be changed to "Plant Nectar", now that I'm thinking about it :).) SB Johnny 11:40, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Please explain why nectar and nectar source must be two seperate articles. As far as I can see, the two concepts are so interrelated that they should be merged under one article. As you say, nectar source is a technical term; as a mere term, it has limited expandability and belongs as part of a broader topic, such as nectar in general. I don't see a point in having two weak articles floating about when they can be combined to make a stronger one. Articles like coal don't partition the substance in one article, and its creation/source in another. jiy (talk) 13:01, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- They are interrelated, but the articles linking to this page are about nectar sources and their uses, not about nectar in general. For more information, see Wikipedia:Abundance_and_redundancy. SB Johnny 13:50, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Nectar should be an article about the botany of nectar. Nectar source is about horticulture and apiculture. I think the two merit separate pages. Both could be huge, if developed.Pollinator 14:13, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose This isn't primary; there can and should be an article about the Greek mythological term. Septentrionalis 21:05, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Please explain why nectar and nectar source must be two seperate articles. As far as I can see, the two concepts are so interrelated that they should be merged under one article. As you say, nectar source is a technical term; as a mere term, it has limited expandability and belongs as part of a broader topic, such as nectar in general. I don't see a point in having two weak articles floating about when they can be combined to make a stronger one. Articles like coal don't partition the substance in one article, and its creation/source in another. jiy (talk) 13:01, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, 3+ days now. Tag removed.SB Johnny 15:06, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- Please follow process next time; the usual amount of time allocated to RM discussion is seven days, not three.
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[edit] More Lists?
I haven't found any yet, aside from the one which previously inhabited this article (moved... see above). I'm hoping to start one for the mid-atlantic region, though such a list would end up being awfully long. I'm not a beekeeper, though... perhaps bee-nectar sources should be listed on separate lists. I know at least some common nectar sources are quite toxic. SB Johnny 14:20, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
