Talk:Naval artillery
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[edit] Merge Naval Gunfire into this article
This page is little more than a definition. See wiki policy on dictionary entries. Naval Gufire is essentially the same thing.--Counsel 18:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- This page needs expansion, not merging. Naval Gunfire support (which appears to be a particular term) is an application of the (main) armament of a warship for supporting land operations as opposed to merely engaging with a shore target. The main use of naval guns through the years has been between ships. A proper article on naval artillery would include an overview of the development of the armament of warships from the middle ages forward. GraemeLeggett 12:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I regard Naval artillery as a term that was current in the early 20th century. IMO, Naval Gunfire Support is a specific term of art referring to the use of gunfire from ships to "soften up" beaches before an amphibious landing is initiated. The idea that Naval Gunfire is used by ship against ship is a good one, too. I agree with GraemeLegget about the content of a proper article on Naval Artillery, but I think maybe a better name could be found. Lou Sander 16:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately most newcomers wouldn't recognize the term Naval Gunfire Support even though that's the correct techical term - so it should remain Naval Gunfire. I'm a school-trained spotter from the US Marine Corps - former artillery officer and naval gunfire support officer trained at Ft. Sill and Little Creek in the 80s.
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- I don't see why newcomers wouldn't recognize Naval Gunfire Support but would recognize Naval Gunfire. Is there some particular reason for thinking so? Lou Sander 12:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Well, it will need the requested move procedure. The sooner we initiate the formal procedure the sooner it'll move. GraemeLeggett 14:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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I also agree that this page should be expanded and NOT merged with Naval Artillery. Naval Artillery is just a small subset of NGFS. While the details may be complex, naval artillery is a fairly simple concept. NGFS includes a high level of coordination with any amphibious assault teams and is more of a mission rather than a class of weaponry. NGFS may utilize forward operating aircraft, be it manned or unmanned, as an aid in targeting and damage assessment. It is more complicated than simple "naval artillery". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.179.111.2 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- Also, shouldn't the Naval Gunfire article be renamed Naval Gunfire Support? Lou Sander 12:02, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- That's what it originally was, before someone started moving & merging without discussion...--Jpbrenna 07:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
I've moved Naval Gunfire back to naval gunfire support, which is the correct term. I also disagree with the merge, and since over the course of four months there seems to be a consensus not to merge, I'm removing the merge notices. TomTheHand 19:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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