Talk:Natural American Spirit

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Oh yeah that so cute. That`s exactly what the consumers wanted to hear, a cigarette that helps native americans and without adaptives. Strange thing it`s produced by the same factories that make the evil cigarettes. I think this is the biggest PR-thing since a long time but it will work. So everyone please smoke the native americans back to life!


they cannot be part of hippie subculture because they were not around then. i don't care what a doctor says. mAybe hipster subculture.

so you're saying hippies don't exist today?


I don't think "hipster" accurately describes it. Maybe "neo-hippie" to distinguish between then and now, but hipster is something different altogether.Renminbi 22:34, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


I think hipster does accurately describe it. At least in the mid-Atlantic region, Spirits are the cigarette of choice by hipsters and company. 12 July 2006

I added John Cusack as a known smoker. I've seen him mention more than once that he smokes the menthol flavor. --Dayshuffler 06:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] free basing

I've found on The Why Files that American Spirits still contain more free-base nicotine than the other commercial brands, and are probably less safe from the addiction angle.1 Lowmagnet 15:46, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Organically grown?

The majority of American Spirit cigarettes don't contain organically grown tobacco. There are some varieties that are specifically organic though.Renminbi 22:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Organic !?

Todo (for someone): Specify that the cigarettes are not organic. The quote in the 3rd paragraph makes this fact unclear.

[edit] Removal of "Cigarette brands" category

I have removed Category:Cigarette brands from this article because Category:R.J. Reynolds brands is a sub-category of the former. It defeats the purpose of having this subcategory if we're going to list the articles in both. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:49, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discontinued

I was purchasing a pack today, and was informed that they were discontinued?

-I'm not sure where you live, but they are still available in Chicago


[edit] NPOV

There's a lot of weasely language here, such as "Although the cigarettes are supposedly additive-free," "Natural American Spirit is reported to contain only whole-leaf tobacco," and "Also, the company claims that it doesn't test any of their products on animals, and they purportedly donate a portion of their revenues to Native American charities." Seems to be no need to put all these modifiers in, unless the editor felt that the company is lying about their claims. Dieziege 06:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Agreed, this should be cleaned up Cybersavior 09:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Known Smokers - Cite Sources

It would be beneficial to this section of the article if contributors would cite their source of information via a web link when available. See the entry for Zach de la Rocha for an example of how to do this.

Furthermore, I would delete the whole section completely. Where is the encyclopedic relevance for this extended and unsourced list? I'm deleting this list right away. Or could anybody in favor of the list please explain why it would matter? It reads more like "see how many really cool and famous people smoke this brand!"-advertising. Hardern 12:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, for one, it's a niche product that has gained prominence despite being relatively hard to find compared to Marlboro, Camel, Kool, etc. Its sales and availability are dwarfed by most brands that have as much prominence. Listing people who smoke the brand might shed light on why it's even visible in the landscape of cigarettes in the first place. - Jordinho (the only one who cited a source... what, no applause?)