Talk:National personification

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Israel

There is a national personification of Israel called "Srulik" (שרוליק), created by the cartoonist Dosh. An article about Srulik the the Hebrew edition of Wikipedia: http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%A7

Kathleen Ni Houlahan

Doesn't that count for Ireland?


Hey, isn't Grandpa Ivan Russia's np? At least I've heard so.


Many of these don't seem to quite fit the "national personification" ideal as much as say, Uncle Sam. Cartoon characters (and to some extent real historical figures) are not at all the same. - M77

Australia

The Little Boy from Manly was mentioned in Bob Carr's eulogy of Sir Arthur Roden Cutler but I've never heard of "Jack Aussie". --AndrewRaphael 09:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Though I really wouldn't know, myself not being an Australian, I believe the Little boy was named Jack, I just decided to add the Aussie. I apologize I had no right.Jim Bart

Brazil

Added Zé Carioca. --Ragnarok Addict 21:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Zé Carioca never was a national personification of Brazil. It should be removed from the list. In fact, he was created by Disney to gain the brazilian sympathy for the USA (the US govt was searching for allies to fight in WWII) I couldn't agree more with it! Even if Zé Carioca was a "personification", it would be the personification of Rio de Janeiro, not the whole Brazil. wiki.pt:LeonelSR 201.41.30.10 01:57, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Czech Rep. and Poland I added Čech and Lech, the legendary founders of Bohemia and Lechia (today known as the Czech Rep. and Poland). I've been thinking of adding Rus to accompany Mother Russia. -Jim Bart

Texas: Added Hank Hill -Jim Bart

Why were Gracia Tejano and Hank Hill removed for Texas? I understand if you've never heard of Gracia Tejano and Hank was thinking outside the box, or maybe you don't think Texas should be here at all, but whoever did it should've put their reasons on the talk page. Please, speak up, whoever he or she may be. Jim Bart

Germany: Who the heck is Onkel Hans?! I never heard of this before -Brausepaul

[edit] Verifiability

Please don't add unreferenced items in the list. For example "psorokostena" for "Greece" is not a personification: it is an ironic, self-deprecating reference that means "poor relative" `'mikka (t) 15:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zé Carioca

I have removed a comment that Zé Carioca is (not accepted by Brazilians) because I don't believe this page is the right place to editorialize on how a personification is perceived. If this personification is viewed as offensive to Brazilians, by all means update the Zé Carioca page to reflect that. If Zé Carioca is simply unrecognized by most Brazilians, I still think it is valid to list it here since its use is notable as referenced on the Zé Carioca page. Ronnotel 20:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Original research

This article seems to be original research. Are there sources for the identifications?Gobawoo 17:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Most if not all of the entries link to other Wiki articles that have the outside references attributing these characters to certain countries. Cybertooth85 19:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)