Talk:National University of Singapore

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I think it is fair to add all rankings that NUS have. However, the statement on the university vision is really just the vision of the university; and reflects how the university thinks. It is after all their official vision and nothing is wrong about that.

Nevertheless, some phrases like "fulfilling university experience" is clearly a bias section and is inappropriate for an encyclopaedia.

Can someone add in Shanghai Jiaotong University's ranking (which incidentally is based on research papers)? That one at least put things into perspective with NUS in the 100-150 range.

A user added a commentary to the Times Higher ranking with

"This ranking was highly controversal as NUS was ranked higher than some universally accepted best universities in the world. This abberation was caused by the different weighings used in calculation of the ranking adopted by Times."

There might be some truth that it is "controversal," but this line has POV problems. Anyway, it is obvious, that any form of ranking will have different weightages and methodologies, and there has never been a singular means of doing it anyway.--Huaiwei 02:18, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The whole tone of the article is inappropriate and full of POV, as well as of another substance. For example:

With the university vision of "Towards a Global Knowledge Enterprise", the NUS strikes to provide a balanced, quality education, and to encourage scholarship at the highest level.

All Universities have such a "vision". Please remove this junk.

One of the most comprehensive university in Asia,

What does that mean?

NUS boasts a world-class infrastructure with 6 libraries, full wireless campus-wide, full sporting facilities, lecture theatres, halls of residences and various student activities that makes a fulfilling university experience.

"A fulfilling university experience"? You want to claim that that is not "POV"?

NUS will soon be turning 100, carrying with it a century of rich heritage

Please remove this propaganda.

[edit] Cleanup

Firstly, when you guys add to the discussion page please tag your ID's so we know who's talking. Second, this article needs to be changed so that the infobox matches the university template (rankings do not go into the infobox as they are subjective and not a part of the school but of outside sources and be be discussed within the article). Third, NUS gets a gigantic boost in the Times because of its percentage of international students and faculty, which is severely overweighted in the THES. These rankings should still be stated but not in the infobox. Fourth, there are way too many red links so if someone wants to fill them in go ahead but they've been there for some time so I'm tempted to take them off and leave them as plaintext. All the things above I will start working on and if anyone has objections leave me a message on my user page. Last, how can the school be government supported but private? This is contradictory. The Singapore government has everything to do with NUS' funding. ArchonMeld 04:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I have taken the liberty of merging in and redirecting all the institution stubs into this article. Most other articles start off life as a single page and then branch into smaller, more specific articles only when there is too much information. I don't see why this article should be any different. The practice of red-linking all the institutions is simply silly and downright harmful, because it encourages people to create non-notable sub-stubs that are unlikely to pass through any deletion discussion unscathed (for example, the Prince George's Park Residences article was re-created in good faith but still in non-notable form after its first AfD and is unlikely to pass its second AfD). There are still some artifacts from the merge process though (for example rankings are not centralised in the Rankings section, but scattered over the place) so please help to cleanup the merged article to make it more standardised. ^_^ Kimchi.sg 06:15, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV and advertising

I've marked the article with POV and advertising warnings due to the large number of marketing phrases in the article, including gems like "NUS is dedicated to nurturing creativity and innovation through challenging project work, participative learning and an environment conducive to sparking ideas and imagination". I'll try and clean out some of the cruft/--Saganaki- 11:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)