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[edit] Cost per kWh of Transmission

User:Engineman - Can't you find some published material on the transmission costs for wind power? I appreciate this is an important subject, but the current claim seems to be based only on your own research. The policy against original research does not only apply to factual information, but also to "arguments, ideas, data, or theories." Thanks, Crosbiesmith 20:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


Crosbiesmith - Sorry I do not understand your point above - I have referenced in the article the published rates for the cost of the transmission network from the National Grid themselves, so that is surely a solid reference and not research.

http://www.nationalgrid.com/uk/Electricity/Charges/usefulinfo/


http://www.nationalgrid.com/NR/rdonlyres/E5B27828-6705-4F21-9B4B-0A998D7AFA5C/5849/FinalTariffs2006_2007.xls


I have then performed an obvious calculation and divided the total receipts based on that charging rate and divided it by the published total of kW hours sold, to give the average unit rate of the cost of the transmission network.

So I have taken published reference source material and shown that at the present, the entire cost of the UK national Grid transmission network is the surprisinly low cost of 0.2 p/kWh.

I do not see how that is original research, or how it needs any further reference, but correct me if I am wrong.

I have then, purely by way of example, said, that by inference, if the size of the transmission doubled,trebled or quadrupled (none of which I am saying will happen) then this would presumably , double, treble or quadruple the cost of transmission.

The original calculation was in a paper read at a conference at the Open University so surely that counts as a reference in its own right.Engineman 14:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

http://www.ukerc.ac.uk/content/view/258/852

It was only the last paragraph, the example concerning wind power, that I was questioning. I didn't check the first part. Was the paper read the 'UKERC Intermittency Report'? Or was it some other paper? - Crosbiesmith 19:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Apologies Crosbiesmith - I gave wrong reference - should have been this:

http://eeru.open.ac.uk/conferences.htm#jan06

crosbie smith - ok I see your point now....and have reworded .....hope that suffices.... engineman...

OK, just done a massive rewite of this section. Hopefully the explanation is somewhat clearer. RDevz 18:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Losses

In the losses section:

Fixed losses: 266 MW (consists of corona and iron losses; can be 100 MW higher in adverse weather)

Is iron a typo? The wikilink to iron doesn't make it any clearer. JimChampion 86.144.73.92 20:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)