Talk:Narodowe Siły Zbrojne

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The NSZ struggled against the new regime, while allegedly continuing to murder Holocaust survivors, whose as NSZ believed were the base for communist government. This material has been suppressed by a well-known vandal. Wetman 05:09, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

They DID killed Jews. In Warsaw Uprising there were reports about units from NSZ or associated with NSZ which were shooting Jews. Szopen

All of them? Was it general policy? They killed Jews because they belonged to communist underground or they were Jews?

At the end, why they were enlisted as combatants be the new law? Cautious 12:00, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

No, not all of them, it was not general policy, and in fact one unit quoted mostly as example was very loosely tied to NSZ (can't remember the name, though - it was quote in one article in GW, don't know if you read that)

Nevertheless some did, and one should note that they WERE ACCUSED of doing so, so mentioning that "SOME ACCUSED" them (or, more rightly, "were widely accused" of...) is stating the fact (they were accused, didn't they.

They received finally combatants status? I stopped following discussion about that after some time, but i thought they won't get it... There were so many attacks against them! Szopen

I have never read anything so biased, partisan and revisionist in anything claiming to be an encyclopaedia. It seems clear to me that the writer has an axe to grind about this matter. Many of the facts (about real or alleged crimes against Jewish people by the NSZ) are obscured by both history and nationalism, but enough witness statements exist from survivors to refute some of the more outrageous claims in this article. I believe it is unworthy to appear in Wikipedia in its present form.

[edit] Here are some allegations against the NSZ, any ideas how and where to incorporate?

,^[1][1] is well established and remains an issue of a painful debate (as well as the degree of complicity of the Home Army in the fate of Jews during the Holocaust events in Poland^[2][2]). At different times NZS was fighting the Nazi forces as well as the forces of the pro-Soviet communist resistance^[3] (see below), the Jewish resistance^[4] and the Red Army.