Talk:Naming the American Civil War
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[edit] Defining a civil war
The second paragraph (on how political scientists define a civil war) seems likely to confuse readers, and strikes me personally as pedantic. Can we find some clearer, but still neutral way of stating that some people do not agree that this was, strictly speaking, a "civil war"? For that matter, there is disagreement on whether it is really more properly described as a war over "a secession movement," as the passage now states.
I agree that this should be dealt with briefly and near the beginning. -- Rob C (Alarob) 22:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- An anonymous user deleted the passage and was reverted. I support the removal and have repeated it. I would welcome a discussion here. -- Rob C (Alarob) 21:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] War of Northern Aggression
Moved anonymous comment from article to here: (Hal Jespersen 02:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC))
- (Note: The person writing this above paragraph is completely wrong. The war was over more Northern-imposed tariffs on the South - 40% more than the 80% they were already paying, of which the South refused to pay. The South chose quiet independence, rather than tyranny - the Boston Tea Party was more revolting. Thereby, the North aggressively attacked Fort Sumter, which is in Charleston, SC. I don't believe the South hauled off and attacked itself. Get the facts straight, please.)
B.S. A cursory reading of the documents whereby South Carolina seceeded indicates that slavery was the overriding issue. IOW, the North was not, in the beginning, necessarily fighting to "free the slaves"; however, the South was definitely fighting to preserve slavery. While tariffs and other issues may have played into southern positions, the fact remains that if slavery had not been an issue, the south would not have seceeded and this war of southern reaction would not have occurred. --Midnite Critic 19:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm especially impressed with the assertion that "the North aggressively attacked Fort Sumter." I guess that makes Edmund Ruffin an aggressive Yankee invader. Thanks, Hlj, for removing this silly comment. -- Rob C (Alarob) 02:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
An anonymous user deleted the sentence in this section about Fort Sumter. FWIW I support the deletion, as the sentence read like special pleading or point-scoring. -- Rob C (Alarob) 01:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Foreign languages
I know it's not directly relevant to the topic of the article itself (alternate English-language names for the war within the US), but I thought it interesting that the Japanese call it Nanboku sensō (南北戦争), the "South-North War". A conflict which had very little if any bearing at all on Japan, and yet they have their own name for it, not a direct translation of any of ours. LordAmeth 09:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
