Talk:Names of the Irish state

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[edit] Eire and Ulster in newspaper headlines

You only have to look at Google News pretty much any day of the week! --Red King 12:37, 27 August 2005 (UTC)


Fair enough. Gaeilgeoirs in so many English papers, who would have thought?

Lapsed Pacifist 12:55, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

I have to agree somewhat with LP on this one, their is approx 135 instances of "Eire" in Google News, 15 are of these are "Eire Og" (Google does not appear to respect the "fada"), additionally their are 2,280 instances of "Republic of Ireland", 38,000 of Ireland, 584 of "Irish Republic" - some of these stories are of historical nature and this should be taken into account. Using Eire for the Republic of Ireland football team is pure idleness, moreover my honest belief is that "Eire" is often used purely out of incompetence, if not sectarianism. Theirfore I would be reserved in my use of Eire. Djegan 19:39, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Of course its idleness, and arguably incompetence. That was precisely my point. Without the footnote, the article is being too precious. Yes, their are certainly cases where "Eire" (sic) and Ulster are used with malice aforethought. But the vast majority of cases are innocent, alebit culpably so. I have been asked a few times "Are you from southern Ireland", which I take as meaning "Aroo from Cork?" before realising the question meant "not Northern Ireland". The questioner had never heard of Southern Ireland. --Red King 22:43, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Names of Ireland

For an informal merger discussion see Wikipedia_talk:Irish_Wikipedians'_notice_board#Names_of_Ireland.

Djegan 20:03, 4 May 2006 (UTC)