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I accidentally sent before finishing the Summary, while removing this addition from "See also" (where it didn't belong):
Biblical Viewpoint
Belshazzar was not the son of Nabonidus. He was the son of Nebuchadnezzer - Daniel 5:2
The British Museum makes the following notes on the Cylinder of Nabonidus.
"Nabonidus came to the throne after the assassination of two of the successors of Nebuchadnezzar" This lines up with the Biblical account - Dan 5:30 In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain.
The kingdom was them conquered by Darius.
The Lion's Den Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom. All the presidents of the kingdom, the governors, and the princes, the counsellors, and the captains, have consulted together to establish a royal statute, and to make a firm decree.
Nabonidus could have been one of these presidents or princes.
Daniel himself is also referred to by Nebuchadnezzar as "Belteshazzar" a slight variation of Belshazzar.
Dan 4:19 Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar
Aside from being in the wrong section, it does not reflect research into the oldest (pre Theodotion Greek & Dead Sea) versions of Daniel, that demonstrate that much scribal confusion of names took place by copyists and translators in the later Masoretic text. Nabonidus (Nabu-na'id) is nowhere mentioned by name in Daniel, but somewhere along the line his person seems to have been confused or conflated with Nebuchadnezzar (Nabu-kudurri-utsur); however Nabonidus (N-B-N-'Y) and his seven year sojourn are mentioned on one of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Also, this is not the right place for a discussion of all the various forms, in versions of Daniel, of Belshazzar's and Daniel's similar or identical names (eg, Balthasor, etc.)... -- ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 19:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
This page on Nabonidus is rather horrifying for its lac of useful content about Nabonidus, who was a strange and interesting king.
Daniel is rather inconsequential to the life of this ruler except for the fact that he was a model for the later portrayal of Nebuchadnezzar.
The article needs to have all the Daniel stuff either herded into a small corner or eradicated totally. There is next to nothing about Nabonidus.
Working from memory, as I don't have the texts available now, Nitocris is not a connection that anyone in Assyriology holds as a historical connection with Nabonidus. It is merely overworking Herodotus, whose knowledge of Mesopotamia was never particularly good. The mene mene tekel stuff should be omitted as dross in the article. Instead the material about his mother is useful, because she is given such an elevated position, that it must have been a means to elevate his own position. Also, some effort has been taken to understand the stay in Teyma to be efforts to establish alternate trading directions with Persia taking trade that once went to Babylon.
The stay in Teyma and its effect on the Babylonians is important, because it seem sthat Babylon wasn't conquered but opened its doors to Cyrus's representatives.
Please, someone with the relevant literature at hand do something about this page!
--Ihutchesson 15:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I am ready to work on this article, but I won't be able to do anything before February. I went to a seminar on Nabonidus and the cult of Sin and I have sufficient data and bibliography to write a longer article. I just need some time, if you can leave me the right to update this, I'm very interested in Nabonidus and I have a lot of information which is hard to find normally.
This article is disappointing indeed. Especially the first paragraph; it's a total misenterpretation of the role of this great King.
The relief in the picture is attributed to Nabonidus, but we are not yet sure (since there is no name on it) if it really represents this King.
Keltica - 16/01/2007
--Keltica 20:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
