User talk:Mysid/Archive03

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[edit] AfD note

thanks, I thought I had done that --Davidrowe 13:30, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] busselton map

thanks for clearing it up i thought it was a little dull, looks much better now. I didnt realise that the stub was still there, thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hossen27 (talk • contribs) 11:32, November 21, 2005 (UTC).

[edit] Apropos cafe pruckl

Hello there. Glad to find another person who's interested in the Cafe Pruckl. Given that the Cafe Pruckl is listed under the general category of viennese coffeehouses, I hope to add data to this entry, that would help establish its distinctiveness, vis a vis all the other viennese coffeehouses. Please join me in the discussion page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caf%C3%A9_Pr%C3%BCckel , to help write a more specifically approporiate entry for the cafe pruckl. When were you last there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Krisunger (talk • contribs) 10:45, December 1, 2005 (UTC).

I haven't been to the country in question, but I just felt that referring to the discussion page wasn't quite appropriate for an encyclopedia article—the content is mirrored on dozens of different sites, and the discussion page resides only here.–Mysid 10:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Agreed, thanks for your help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Krisunger (talk • contribs) 11:02, December 1, 2005 (UTC).

[edit] SVG flags

Hi, I see you've been replacing a lot of JPEG or PNG flags with SVG ones, thanks, this is good work. I've recently added the {{badJPEG}} template with corresponding category Category:Images with inappropriate JPEG compression. If you are looking for more images to replace, please take a look there. Also, I'd like to invite you to replace the Flag of New Jersey PNG image: Image:New Jersey state flag.png. This might be difficult due to the amount of detail in the Seal of New Jersey, but all of us at WP:NJ would appreciate it. Thanks. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for giving it a try. I appreciate the effort, it is a complex seal. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 16:46, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Holy crap, it looks awesome! Thanks for your effort, I'm really impressed! I'm going to go replace all uses of the previous PNG with this one, thank you! --ChrisRuvolo (t) 13:18, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Saw your recent edits to the image. The aspect ratio looks better, thanks. However, I think the seal is not centered properly. The seal group looks automaticly centered by the bounding box of the group, but the cornucopia on the right side makes that side wider than the left side. I think the result is that the mid-line of the seal (running through the center of the crest and horses's head) is shifted to the left by a bit. What do you think? --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:08, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Mysid, I recently had a discussion on Talk:SVG about how to make the uploaded SVGs properly resizable. It seems that the use of the width and height tags in the top-level <svg> is what limits the size. Removing these tags will make the SVG scale-to-fit by the client. I just tried this on the NJ flag, and it works well. Also, I was thinking that these SVGs would be usable on other (non-English) wikipedias. Have you considered uploading them to Wikimedia Commons? Thanks. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 21:53, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, crap, the Wikipedia SVG rendered doesn't do the right thing there. Nevermind. It resizes the image to 256x256 pixels only. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 21:58, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Nuclear Weapons

Thanks for your speedy responce.

Prodego^talk 18:49, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sao Jose panorama

Hello Mysid,

Panoramica of Sao Jose was obtained in the official site of the City Hall of Sao Jose dos Campos. It is considered to be free use under GFDL terms. There is not a specific classification or term for pictures that are free from the Brazilian Government or Brazilian Municiapalities. Even for commercial use, those pictures are released. cloretti. Anyway, i will change classification to PD (public domain).

Hello Mysid

I talked to the City Hall of Sao Jose dos Campos and they asked me to classify that as GFDL only for educational purposes. Thanks.

I'm afraid that's not possible, as GFDL is not an educational only license. –Mysid 06:28, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:ASI CSULB ASI--Program-Council-Logo.jpg

You recently tagged Image:ASI CSULB ASI--Program-Council-Logo.jpg with {{badJPEG}}. Since that image is a fair use logo, it should not be modified, even if the only thing that you do is convert it into a different file format. ^BlankVerse 21:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Why would this fall outside of fair use? --ChrisRuvolo (t) 22:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I suppose that using any image representing a copyrighted logo in the right context qualifies as fair use, no matter where the data came from. I've even drawn some logos myself and tagged them as fair use images. –Mysid 06:26, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image replaced and up for deletion

Hi, I've replaced two images uploaded by you with SVG versions, because SVG is a more suitable format for images with no photographic content:

• Image:Lebanese french flag.jpg ⇒ Image:Lebanese French flag.svg
• Image:Cedar flag.jpg ⇒ Image:Cedar flag.svg

The original images have been listed for deletion—hope this is OK. –Mysid 07:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

No problem. CG 17:01, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I have no problem. However, I think you should leave the copyright/source information of the original. I took it from a site that has specific conditions on when/how we can use their material. Asim Led 17:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

You may be right, as the flag probably is, afterall, a derived work of the original. I've drawn all my flags on a vector layer with the original JPEG underneath it as a model, sometimes tracing exactly the original outlines. That, of course, excludes cases where the flag consists merely of simple geometric patterns that I can reproduce with more accuracy than in the original, like the flag you were referring to. (That said, I don't exactly know what counts as a derived work and what doesn't.) –Mysid 11:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

FYI, that only applies if her SVG work is a derived work of the JPEG. (for example, by tracing the outline of the shape in the JPEG) --ChrisRuvolo (t) 18:23, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your images

I've been very impressed with the images you've drawn to replace images with inappropriate JPEG compression. Thank you for all your work. —Bkell 06:45, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Note On Images

Thanks for the note on the O2 logo image, I understand it does not run in line with wikipedias new policies on image, please feel free to do whatever you feel best with the image. Thanks again Electricmoose- Electrifying 12:23, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maps

Sure, of course. You might also want to reconsider creating a new .png map instead of converting the .jpeg ones. As far as I remember, Emax simply didn't know how to use .png format and that's why he saved all his maps based on my commons:User:Halibutt/administrative in such a bizarre way. The original .png's have the palette already reduced to three colours, so you'd just have to place a dot and - done.

As to tagging - I'm really lost here. If you converted Emax' conversions of my maps, you'd most probably have to retain the original tag as per GFDL. If you prepared a new .png from the scratch, you'd only have to mention my name and a link to commons:User:Halibutt/administrative. Whichever way you go - I'm happy someone uses my work.

BTW, take note that many of the maps created by Emax are based on an earlier version of my contour map, the one that still needed lots of fixes. Later I fixed the original - just compare Image:Suwalki map.png with Image:Polska kontur bialy.png. Halibutt 11:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I have seen people now converting pngs into svgs - just a thought.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 14:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the new SGVF flag of Sao Jose dos Campos

Really impressed with your work!! thanks Cloretti

[edit] replaced image

The PNG formatted image you have is fine. It actually seems a bit clearer than the other one I uploaded. The other one should be deleted - just a minor formatting issue. Dr. Cash 20:43, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of New Jersey

Great job on the flag of New Jersey! I went ahead and uploaded it to the Commons as Commons:Image:Flag of New Jersey.svg. You might be interested in joining WikiProject Flags, a group on the Commons trying to make and improve SVG flags. There's information on the talk page there about SVG flags that need improvement. dbenbenn | talk 00:50, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Republic of the Rio Grande

Mysid: Thank you for the help with the Republic of the Rio Grande flag. It is much appreciated. I don't have Corel or any other drawing software available beyond Paint.

It is my intention to comply with the law. The web site from which I took the original RRG flag image stated that all images are copyrighted, but that an image could be used as long as:

• I don't use more than 5% of their images, and that
• I reference their web site.

But you drawing a new image completely takes care of that. It's a higher quality image. You did an excellent job. Thank you for your time and help.

ChuchoHuff

[edit] Redundant images

I really appreciate the work you're doing improving bad JPEGs. I've noticed that you are using the {{redundant}} tag to mark the old JPEG versions of images you've fixed. If you have changed the articles to use the new PNG or SVG versions, so that there are no more articles that use the old JPEG image, then consider using the {{db-i1}} tag instead to nominate the JPEG for speedy deletion. —Bkell 20:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Independentist Flag of Chechnya.png listed for deletion

Gabbe 23:22, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indian roundel image

image:Indian roundel.png has now become redundant with image:IAF-roundel.svg. Would you have any objections if I deleted the png version? Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead. –Mysid 06:19, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I've deleted it. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Electoral map.png

This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Electoral map.png. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. Shyam ^(T/C) 21:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. By inspecting the edit history of the image description page it becomes clear what the original source, tag and license are. It is in the public domain. I've reverted all edits by others than me on the description page. –Mysid 06:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PAN AM LOGO

Hi, great work with the Pan Am logo!!! I love it!!!

I`d like to know which logo you changed, was this?

http://s2.supload.com/free/Panamlogo.jpg/view/

Or was this?

http://s2.supload.com/free/Pan%20American%20World%20Airways%20(r).jpg/view/

By the way I think you'd like to do a logo some like this:

http://s2.supload.com/free/600px-PanAm_logo%20copy.png/view/

Sorry for the cheap trick!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Simonlebon (talk • contribs) 21:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC).

I don't quite remember. But if you mean that I should make a PNG version of the current image on the page, then of course, I'll do it someday. –Mysid 08:43, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Links to commons categories

Hi Mysid - saw you'd had a bit of difficulty linking Bark to a category page at commons - the format to use is {{commonscat|Bark}} - MPF 13:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Electrosensitivity page

Hi Mysid, thanks for checking the ES page for NPOV. I've added references to cover your citation request. I'm a bit uncomfortable about describing it as "rare"; it certainly is in its severe form but in Sweden figures of 2-5% of the population are given (and some sources claim even higher, though this seems to me to be unverified) - stats are in the main text. Couldn't think of a better way of putting it at present though, so have left it as it stands. Hyperman 42 01:22, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Punjabi MC

Hi Mysid! Are you sure about the speedy delete? I used google and it returned a lot of search results. Would you mind investigating it a bit further. I'm at work and can't abuse Wikipedia hehe. Sarg 12:08, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll do that. I just didn't spot any assertions of notability, except for the word talented. But I'll take a look at it and try to be more careful with CSD's in the future... –Mysid 12:13, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

No worries. Just remove the hangon template too if you find it is crap ;) Sarg 12:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

The article name was typoed, and there is an existing article named Panjabi MC. I made a redirect. –Mysid 12:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History of podcasting

2006-04-25 20:16:54 Mysid m (moved History of Podcasting to History of podcasting: Capitalisation, podcasting is not a proper noun)

Oops. Thanks. :) --ozzmosis 10:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your Qwerty.svg image

Hi Mysid,

I have noticed that your Qwerty.svg image actually depicts a *104* key keyboard which misses AltGr (and is thus 103 :)). Could you please correct this? The image is otherwise very well done. --Gennaro Prota ^(talk) 17:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I replied on my talk page. --Gennaro Prota ^(talk) 12:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mike Haysman Image

Hi How r u?Mike Hayman image is from www.cricinfo.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yahoo (talk • contribs) 23:24, May 9, 2006 (UTC).

I know, but are you the copyright holder? Because you said that "the copyright holder has irrevocably released all rights" to the image. –Mysid 07:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK!

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Great Evening Bat, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for an interesting contribution! ++Lar: t/c 00:47, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] wikispeed

Don't worry, it's OK!

I'll try to be less slow next time.

Ciao

Gaudio 10:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Libreville

Ah, I thought the CIA map was fair use, rather than public domain, so there's no automatic reason to prefer the GFDL version. However, I do prefer the GFDL map, as it shows only what is relevant to the article - the location of the city within Gabon - and does not require the reader to search for Libreville among many other towns. The GFDL map also has the advantage that it is part of a series used on most other articles on cities in Gabon, and indeed across Africa. Warofdreams talk 00:09, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flags

Nice job my friend, you've drawn them nice, how do you do it by the way? well compliments and keep up the good work! greetings --Makedonia 19:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the compliment. I draw them using CorelDRAW, which is a vector graphics editor. It's getting easier, but a complicated flag takes still a lot of work. There are ready shapes for e.g. stars, rectangles and circles in the software, and the rest can be made by hand. If there's a bitmap flag available I may draw the vectors on a layer on top of it. I use guidelines and grids heavily to make the flags as accurate as possible, and I often dig the official measures and colors from FOTW. I export them as SVG and edit them slightly using a text editor, as CorelDRAW for some reason always uses the CMYK color space. –Mysid^(t) 06:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Qatar

Just as an FYI, it was Arithmomaniac38 who removed content in this edit from Qatar, not User:Gsklee as you said on this edit comment. Let me know something I can do to help on the article - I've been primarily watching vandalism and NPOV on the article. (You can respond on here or my talk page) --Matt 12:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

You're correct, I once again misinterpreted the diff display! Too bad I can't take that edit summary back now. My knowledge on Qatar is absolutely minimal, so I don't think I can help with the article... I was just checking the interwiki links to see how it's spelled in Finnish. –Mysid^(t) 12:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Oops, it was Arithmomaniac38 who was asking for volunteers for article cleanup. I forgot who was asking for help! Have a good one --Matt 12:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Qwerty.svg

Hi Mysid,

the reply is on my talk page. I thought to leave you a notice :) —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 13:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SVG questions

I know you've done a lot of great work creating SVGs. As I'm just getting started creating SVGs for Wikipedia, I have a couple questions.

First, do you know of a way to make multilingual text labels in an SVG? I'm making a map of Sudan which will eventually be uploaded to the Commons, and it would be nice to make it so that English labels will show up if the image is used on the English Wikipedia and German labels will show up if the image is used on the German Wikipedia. (I've asked this question at Commons talk:Transition to SVG, but I'm not sure if that was the right place, and I'm not sure when I'll get a reply.) If there isn't a nice way to make multilingual SVGs, then I think I'll just make text labels in several languages and set the "style" attribute of all but one language to "display:none". This way a speaker of a different language can just change two style attributes and get a differently labeled map.

My second question is whether there is some documentation somewhere that gives a list of what fonts are installed on the Wikipedia servers, so that I know what I have to work with in SVGs. It would also be nice to have a guide to Wikipedia's Unicode support in SVGs. For example, I want to include an H with a cedilla in my text labels (as in AL BA?R AL A?MAR), but I've tried both U+1E28, which doesn't show up at all on Wikipedia, and an H followed by U+0327, which just shows up as a normal H. I've thought about converting the text to a path, but that destroys the editability of the label.

If you can help me with either of these, that would be fantastic. Otherwise, perhaps you know of a better place to ask. —Bkell 19:43, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Quite interesting and difficult questions. I have had problems with fonts and unusual characters, too, in Image:Orion-guide.svg, when I tried to include the α's and β's as text. It didn't quite work, so I ended up rendering them as curves, as you can see in the file history. I've tried to find a font listing as well, but to no avail. Thus I guess the support for different fonts is minimal. (Are you using the correct encoding, e.g. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> in the beginning? I just noticed there's such a tag, and though it might be of help.) As for multilingual SVG's – they would be a great thing to have. I don't know how they could be implemented in Wikipedia, though. The style tag is a good idea, but can't be modified when included in different articles. –Mysid^(t) 06:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm specifying utf-8. Characters like A and U show up just fine (see Image:Bkell-test.svg for example). It's the unusual ones like ? that don't work. Most likely this is just a case of insufficient Unicode support. It frustrates me that Unicode is 15 years old and I still run into lack of support for it. Thanks for your help. Is there some "SVG village pump" where I can ask questions like this in the future, or should I just try posting those at the normal village pump? —Bkell 08:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi, the best info about what kind of fonts Wikipedia expects you to have can be found in our style sheets. From common.css:

.Unicode {
font-family: TITUS Cyberbit Basic, Code2000, Doulos SIL, Chrysanthi Unicode...
font-family /**/:inherit;
}

I can reassure you that once you have TITUS and Code2000 you have 99% of the support (with Firefox, at least; that's the only browser I use). Both fonts are freely downloadable, from

• http://titus.fkidg1.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/tituut.asp

and

• http://home.att.net/~jameskass/

respectively. Hope this helps —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 14:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Gennaro, Bkell was talking about the fonts installed on the Wikimedia servers – those fonts that are available for the SVG renderer (so this is not a browser issue). Have you tried Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)? –Mysid^(t) 17:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I misunderstood his question. Off-hand I would say the servers should have the same fonts, but who knows :) Sorry for the noise. —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 12:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try the technical village pump next. I'll probably also try the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language for help in understanding Arabic transliteration. Maybe there's a more common character I can use. —Bkell 18:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Multilingual SVGs and Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Fonts and Unicode support in SVGs. —Bkell 19:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#Arabic transliteration. —Bkell 19:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SVG flag and seal for LA

Thanks for that contribution. Much better! Are you working your way through all the flags and seals of the world? ;) Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 11:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hehe. Why not. :) Well, seriously speaking, there's such a tremendous amount of detail in every seal that I'll take a break before the next one. Otherwise I'll get exhausted and careless. –Mysid^(t) 11:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)