Talk:Myanmar Armed Forces

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Just copied, no source given .. hmmm I like military.

[edit] anonymous user 213.165.224.55

You need to discuss your proposed deletions on this talk page-the info you delete was on this article long before you got here, it is factual, and if you are so determined to make such sweeping changes, why don't you register and sign in? Else I will revert your deletions each and every time they appear. Chris 21:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

And leave the flag smaller-as per Wikipedia Manual of Style. Chris 21:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
      • Chirs, it maybe factual, but it doesnt belong in Military stub. Perhaps you would like to include this particular information in the main Myanmar article? it is more political then military. This article is purely military related information, please have some common sense? By adding your non-military related facts, you are effectively vandalising the article and stopping others from using it as reference point which is what it was intended for. Surely, if you have done any research on Myanmar Military, you would find very little or no specific information due to the fact that they have been overshadowed by purely political facts and events like the ones you have been posting. Please do not threaten to revert as this would constitute to vandalism and will have to report you to wikipedia admins accordingly.
No single user may determine what does not belong in an article without consensus. There is information in the main article, but where military overlaps with political, as it does here, inclusion is warranted in the article. Your comments are rude and unwelcome, and you have no idea of the meaning of vandalism, else you would not use that term. As the facilitator of the Burma/Myanmar project, I have certainly done my homework, and as a two year _registered_ editor of the Wikipedia, (and since you are an anonymous single-article user with a history starting today) I would like to see just how far your accusations of vandalism go against me. Go for it. Meanwhile as I say I will revert your deletions each and every time they appear. Additions are welcome, deletions without concensus are not. Chris 23:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Following Wikipedia protocol, I am leaving a warning about WP:3RR on your talk page. This has gone on long enough. At your next _unagreed upon_ deletion of material from Military of Myanmar, I will be reporting you for violation of the three revert rule. Chris 23:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
      • If you have done your home work, you would know that the information you added does not belong in this article. While, Myanmar military and politics are sensitive issues, we as contributors of Wikipedia must be neutral according to wikipedia policy WP:NPOV in the sense of providing correct and relevant information in the article. Your additions to the article are politically motivated and serves no purpose in a "purely military" related article. This article is about the organisation structure and order of battle for Myanmar Military, it is not about the wealth of a general or what type of villa or house he owns. If you have political scores to settles with Myanmar generals, perhaps you should start a different article. Having seniority and your long time affiliation with Wikipedia does not give you the right to bully or vendalise articles based upon your political orientation or affiliation, especially adding facts that are completely unrelated to the article. Okkar 00:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
        • If you keep reverting back, I will have to mark the article with nocompliant check against Wikipedia NPOV policy and will also have to request for POVCHECK. What is the point of contributing if you cannot stay neutral and follow wikipedia policy?Okkar 00:20, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Stating facts as they stand are not POV, and the facts are that the Tatmadaw holds more sway in Burma than does the French military in France or the Australian military in Australia, and for that reason it stands out. Nowhere in the guidelines for this article does it say this article is "about the organisation structure and order of battle for Myanmar Military", it is just as it says, about the Military of Myanmar, hence the name, and all facts are relevant. I have no score to settle, I just avidly dislike those who have no sense of wikietiquette, like yourself. You may even have valid points, but you don't move into someone's house uninvited and start tearing down the curtains while they're away. Thinking you know more than previous editors does not give you the right to remove what they've written without discussion. My political leanings or lack thereof have nothing to do with addition or removal of facts from this article. Your belief that you are the last word on the topic does, and since you have reverted, not even taking the advice of the third party you brought in, you have been reported for violating 3RR. Chris 01:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Can you please open your eyes and look up on top of this page? it clearly states that "This article is within the scope of Wikipedia Military History Project". No where in the scope and goals of Wikipedia Military History Project states that you should put the details of personal wealth of a general and the photo of his house. No other Military articles (see Brtish Armed Forces - does not contain the wealth of the Queen, nor does it contain the picture of Buckingham Palace) contains such information which are clearly inviolation of not only Wikipedia NPOV policy but also out of the scope from Wikipedia Military History Project. There is no excuse for using Wikipedia as a political tool and using 3RR complaints to get the upper hand in a dispute. You know what you were doing and you just cant accept the fact that you were caught with your hand in the cookies jar. Okkar 01:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Chris 11:23, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

There is no personal attack here. comment on content, and content should be facts and within the scope of article, again neutrality is important here. we must not forget what wikipedia stands for. Thank you. Okkar 13:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing Category

Why was this article removed from Myanmar Category? If you said this project is politically neutral, why were you removing this article from the main Myanmar category? Are you trying deseperately to appease the opposition groups again? so much being politically unbias, you are going a great length have this article hidden from general public. Please control yourself, Wikipedia is not a PR site for NCGUB! Okkar 14:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

You shouldn't aggressively accuse others of being biased without prior knowledge. If you actually took a look at Category:Myanmar, you would find that there are very few articles that exist in that category, because more specific categories have been created, which in the case of "Military of Myanmar" is the category of that same name. For this same reason, articles like "Economy of Myanmar", "Culture of Myanmar", "History of Myanmar", "Politics of Myanmar", "Communication in Myanmar", "Education in Myanmar", just to name a few, appear only in those specific categories and not the general "Myanmar" category, which is mainly for uncategorised articles and the "Myanmar" article. Next time, before you accuse me of trying to "paddle articles that [have been] sanctioned and blessed by NCGUB [National Coalition Government of the Union of Burma]", you should see how Wikipedia categories work and check out other country cats (e.g. Category:Singapore, Category:Australia) just to name a few). And don't warn me for vandalism without providing a more reasonable explanation. (This is a response to the following 3 posts: 1, 2, 3) --Hintha 23:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)