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Archives Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3

Contents 1 Question 2 IMAGE 3 question 4 new member? 5 The Black Parade Tour 6 Rumours of "apparent" split-up. 7 Archive 3 8 consider removing the derogatory and slang term "fags" from this article... 9 Peer Review 10 New Video 11 Vandal 12 Disenchanted/Teenagers singles. 13 The band logo 14 is it true? 15 Emo 16 Three cheers page 17 sorry 18 Gerard's death

[edit] Question

does my chemical romance have a guitar tab book for the new album that you can by in england from a shop and on the internet?

[edit] IMAGE

I think that the current image should stay. Although it is a little unfocused, it's pretty recent. Unless someone has a more recent image of course. They can post it, or give it to me and i will do it.

Idea, the i don't love you video is very recent, so how about using a still from the video, it could be licensed under a tv screen capture, so it shouldnt be delteted although im sure somebody will find something wrong with it. Here is a relativly good shoot Image:IDon'tLoveYouMyChemicalRomance.jpg. Let me know if you think it is a good idea to use it, because the current image doesnt have all the band members in.

[edit] question

ummmm... im not entirely sure how a band can be pop and emo at the same time, and id say MCR is neither, but if you must leave it that way, so be it. i dont know too many people who trust this site for music, anyway.

Those are subgenres, all subgenres are sourced. If a subgenre has a reliable source then it may be added in the section. Please see Archive 2 as to why it is this way.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 21:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] new member?

is there actually a new member? is there any proof, can i see it? Blkeddie! 02:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I was there. They said he would be touring with them, but he's not a member. I can't remember his name though. icelandic hurricane #12 _(talk) 03:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

James Dewees is currently touring with them in much the same capacity that he toured with New Found Glory on their Catalyst tour.SwankRock3000 06:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

If this is in reference of MCR's tour in Japan, that guy was a sub for Frank Iero because Frank got sick. Michael Norkus 02:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe it is a reference to their headlining tour and the guy who is playing the piano/ organ.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 03:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Black Parade Tour

After the sentences following "February 22nd..." you might want to add in that the show features confetti cannons, pyrotechnics, etc, and that they go straight through TBP and then go off and come back with the Revenge background and no BP uniforms. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.242.77.19 (talk) 13:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

Nah, I created a separate page for The Black Parade tour. That information can be added to that page, if necessary, if it's added under the "Setlist" section. MJB12 05:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rumours of "apparent" split-up.

I found this on the internet. It seems that this article has been finding it's way around MySpace, leading a few people to believe that My Chem have broken up.

Of course, you'll probaly be able to tell from the article that it's fake. I was just wondering, do you think this deserves a mention in the article? I mean it's just one article from a unrealible site. But I was thinking that maybe it could be credited in the "Critism" section to show people's distain for the band.

Or, if anybody has any other information about the article, it would be much appriciated. Thank you. :] (Dead-In-Horrorwood 21:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC))

No, MCR has not split up. They are currently on their headlining tur with Rise Against. It is just a fake. I believe this circulated around the time that Frank was in the United States due to medical reasons. I don't believe this should be placed in the criticism as this is originated from Myspace which should not be added as sources. And as a rumor this is not criticism but rather a rumor which is different and should not be mentioned as it fuels the fire, see WP:HOAX.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 02:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archive 3

I have created the third talk page archive. This page was filling up, decided to make it look a little neater.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 02:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] consider removing the derogatory and slang term "fags" from this article...

in the band's fanbase section. Perhaps could place in parenthesis that this is derogatory... it lessens the credibility of the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.135.185.29 (talk) 02:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

Somehow I'm even wondering if that term should even be in there, unless somebody has a source saying they are, and I doubt it. It might get the axe. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 02:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

My same thoughts, was just looking through the article and noticed it.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 21:36, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer Review

I have made a request to peer review this article. I think it needs to be cleaned up removing uneeded information and adding information where appropriate. There is a link near the top of the article where you can add any comments for the article to help bring it to Good Article status.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 21:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Video

Aparently Mcr is schedualed to film a new video Saturday,March 17. It will be taking place in LA. Some people suspect that the new video is for Disenchanted or maybe a U.S version of I Dont Love You. Both are possibilities, but im not at all sure. Its possiable that they could pull a video for any of the tracks on TBP. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.85.23.194 (talk) 22:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

were Disenchanted and teenagers meant to be added to singles in the bottom menu?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.100.182.153 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 16 March 2007.

Im Not sure, those seem like the two most likely songs to be the new video thought. with the whole mtv.com saying that disenchanted is a single to be released on April 2nd. ohh by the way, i was the topic starter, i just for got to sign in?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.85.23.194 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 16 March 2007.

[edit] Vandal

Someone messed up the picture and I can't fix it because it's protected. Could someone fix it?Paloma Walker

Just did! Thank you very much for reporting it--JUDE ^talk 03:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disenchanted/Teenagers singles.

Who put those on the singles section. Where is your proof? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lynx Austin (talk • contribs) 07:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

Thank you, I didn't have the template on my watch list, but I've reverted the edits now.--JUDE ^talk 09:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The band logo

I've saved this band logo in the infobox to my computer and easily converted it to SVG with InkScape. I know that in Wikipedia, SVG images are preferred over PNG images, but I don't know how to upload it properly - and more specifically I'm not sure about a license. Help? [ Litis :: Talk to me ] 14:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

If you go here you can upload a new version of the MCRLOGO1 picture. The image name might still be MCRLOGO1.png though so if you want to upload a new on down in the lower left corner there is a link that says "Upload file" which is here and you can upload a new picture. Since the old logo pic and the new one are similar I'd use the same licensing as before. So if you are uploading a new one then just use same liscensing, if you are going to replace the other one you don't need to worry about it and no links need to be changed on any pages it's on. Hope this helps!  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 19:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I did it! And I think there's no mess with licenses too. Thanks for answering! (If I did anything wrong, talk to me.) [ Litis :: Talk to me ] 20:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks like you did everything fine. And the image actually looks clearer in my opinion as well. Maybe I'm wrong, but, oh well. Good job.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 21:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] is it true?

i heard that guitarest Frank Iero is sick and has pulled out of the current tour. is that true??

(oh, and also, is the biography noy called "something incredible this way comes" instead of "something incredible comes this way"??) Gingerbrau 12:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I went to a concert about 6 days ago, and Frank was certainly there, and extremely energetic. He wass pulled off of the Japan tour because he was sick. --MCRluvr 06:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

He was absent on the Melbourne (Australia) show as well. Kokiri kid 00:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Emo

My Chemical Romance is not emo, it should be removed from the infobox. If you know anything about music, you can not argue that My Chemical Romance fit into the emo genre in the least.

Any genre added into the infobox besides alternative rock and Disputed Subgenres should be removed. Please see Talk:My Chemical Romance/Archive 2 for the consensus on the My Chemical Romance genre. Any sourced genre can be added into the subgenre section however none are to be added into the infobox.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 01:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

How can they be possibly be considered alternative considering their massive mainstream marketing and following? --Neon white 13:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

People call me emo because i like them and other things labelled emo. Its ridicicious. My chemical romance is a good band, even if they are emos or not! --89.243.50.94 22:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I've been looking at the discussion pages of certain bands which can most certainly be considered emo, and are by a lot of people. Often times, the people who dispute a band being emo are fans of the band who in all liklihood are motivated by a need to dissociate one of their favorite bands from this often pejorative label. Fuck labels. If the band is considered emo by a considerable amount of people, then they are emo. Who the hell cares if the label sometimes has negative things associated with it. If "I'm Not Ok (I Promise)" isn't an emo song, then we might as well stop labeling anything emo. - Razorhead 1 April 2007

The genre is added but isn't considered a main genre as My Chemical Romance's genre is heavily disputed. Alternative rock can cover a wide majority of genres and by sourcing the rest of the genres we are not creating original research. If this topic is about whether emo should be added into the infobox then no, I do not think it should. If this topic is about whether or not My Chemical Romance is emo then it is up for the reliable sources to decide and not us. It is sourced but as the main genres are heavily disputed it was not added into the infobox.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 00:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Three cheers page

(I would put this under the three cheers page but the redirect isn't working, for me at least) That album page is an absolute shambles. The concept overview is directly contradicted in almost every other seperate song page. I don't know who is right and I think the whole concept section should be removed and only the singles should have their own pages. Gerard Way has stated half the songs don't follow the concept and this is mentioned in the article, however, that begs the question "Why include a song by song story overview when there is a quote from a member of the band saying half the songs don't follow the concept". A similar thing happened on The Black Parade page and rightly, it was removed, so what do you think?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.111.17.86 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 24 March 2007.

Really the main reason that there is an overview section is because many pages were set up for AfDs and a majority of the results were to redirect or merge with the Three Cheers article. It may need some work of course and sources. But I think that if it unsourced then it should be tagged with something like {{unsourced}} or {{fact}} with a message on the talk page with what is needed and if it isn't taken care of removing the information. Of course if it's vandalism then it should be removed but it'd be helpful if you added the appropriate tags to the article so people can find the appropriate sources or delete the information.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 04:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I removed the overview section on the three cheers page and I think it shouldn't be put back in until someone can source it. I can't find a single non-contradictory source for the concept anywhere, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.110.219.24 (talk • contribs).

I am sure there are sources. There is a concept to Three Cheers as there is for The Black Parade and Bullets. All of My Chemical Romance's albums are concept albums. Some songs may stray from the concept to talk about perhaps real life issues but that's what makes it a concept album because it has a concept and it's not a full blown rock opera.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 18:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but the overview was removed for the Black Parade as it was deemed to be a POV and I feel the concept is far more obvious in TBP than three cheers, therefore I feel the only plan of action was to remove the entire section and I didn't take out the part saying it is a concept album only the overview so I don't see a problem with my edit.(Edit) I now see it has been put back in, surely a person with as many edits as you will agree if something isn't fact (or sourced)it doesn't have a place on wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.110.219.24 (talk • contribs).

I added sources to the appropriate information and removed the song by song analysis. I think removal of the whole section was slightly drastic as there were no sources for the whole album. As I stated before adding the appropriate tags would've been helpful as I could've worked on it. So I had to revert it to source the section. I also left a comment on the talk page there.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 19:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] sorry

i saw anothe mention of ways death and dident realize that there were two of them and reverted the wrong one.sorryRazor romance 16:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Mikey or Gerard are not dead. Neither is their father as was mentioned above. Just please in the future if you are to add significant information like that please provide a source. Thanks!  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 17:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gerard's death

Why does an article about Gerard killing himself keep coming up? Somebody needs to take this off and make sure it stays off.

This is a rumor and is untrue. Please just disregard it if it is added without a source and revert it. Thanks!  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 17:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)