Talk:Musical instrument

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Musical instrument is included in the 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection, or is a candidate for inclusion in the next version. Please maintain high quality standards and, if possible, stick to GFDL-compatible images.
Former FA Musical instrument is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article Milestones below to see why the nomination failed. For older candidates, please check the archive.

Contents

[edit] Makers?

Aren't there any English articles on the different sorts of craftsmen that actually produce musical instruments? Piano makers, Violin makers etc?--Cancun771 13:31, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Range pictures

A question:

I have under my homepage http://www.hut.fi/~tbackstr/ranges/ranges.html a list of the ranges of the most common orchestral instruments. The data and pictures and everything is collected and created by myself, and thus it is not under any copyright and could be used on this page. So, the question is, in which format and where should they be added? If somebody whishes to do the actual work of copying the data, then please, go ahead... --Tbackstr

For information on uploading files see Wikipedia:Uploading images and Special:Upload. I would suggest then placing each image on the article of the appropriate instrument, and an example or possibly all at range (music), which has yet to be written. See also: Wikipedia:Images. Hyacinth 01:55, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Harp

Why isn't harp on it? Harp's pretty common (ok maybe not but it's important!) :)

  • If you're talking about my page mentioned above then you have a good question. I admit, I don't know. It just isn't included. --Tbackstr

Do you need to know the range? I think I know it...hmm 47 notes, with all the accidentals in between. The lowest note is the C three octaves below middle C and the highest note is the G three and a half octaves above middle C. At least I think so - I'll check later. dreamyshade


can you tell me instruments from around the world please

[edit] Earliest instrument and classifications

the "earliest instrument" question has to be speculation, since there are plenty of music-generating devices (human bodies, hollow logs, etc.) that don't leave music-specific archeological evidence.

boy, i'd much rather see the aerophone/membranophone/idiophone/chordaphone/electronaphone as the prime division of instruments; "keyboard instruments" is a confusing category, since any instrument in it belongs to at least one other category.

maybe all of the classification should be move to the "musical instrument classification" section, and instruments should be discussed in general terms of sound production, tone quality, relationship of musician to instrument. any thoughts? -jp2

I agree that the keyboard bit is a mess but I think that needs sorting separately. I don't agree that we should go over to -ophone classifications in this article - it's too scientific-sounding for an introductory article and will confuse many people. At least with "brass" or "woodwind" there is something familiar to hang onto. If the -ophones are going to be used people should be led gently to it later. By the same token I don't think it's an improvement that the little examples of types of instruments have been taken out - I think they were helpful. On a slightly different tack, the use of "tone quality" is an improvement of the previous spectral nonsense but oddly there is no linked article there - though there is a pretty short one at timbre: is that perhaps the answer? Nevilley 22:42 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)

I just removed this:

The oldest known man made instrument is a mousterian bone flute from the "Divje babe I" 
cave site (Slovenia), made by neanderthals around 45,000-50,000 years ago from a 
cave bear bone.

See Divje Babe and especially Talk:Divje Babe; this is far from being a historical consensus and doesn't belong here without qualification or sources. --Craig Stuntz 13:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Examples

timbre link: nice idea.

i'm not averse to bringing back examples of instruments, but i would not want to see them in the current instrument family bullets; i'd be more apt to remove all detailed discussion of instrument families from this page and relocate such details to the "family" pages. a general discussion (instruments make sounds; sounds are affected in these fashions) might be a stronger gateway into the current referenced entries. jp2

[edit] Improvement drive

Percussion instrument is currently a candidate on Wikipedia: This week's improvement drive. Vote for this article if you want it to be improved. --Fenice 20:48, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Soft sound instruments

The following is not a major family of musical instruments, but could be incorporated somehow in string insturments:

*Soft Sound instruments Soft and desirable instruments can be devided into eastern, western and oriental instruments. Tar, and tar family instruments, mandolin guitar ...

Karol 19:41, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] harp

[edit] electric guitar

Does a solid body electric guitar fit the 'classical' definition of string instrument ?

Yes, it's original means of producing the sound is through vibrating strings, making it no different from an acoustic. Only difference of course is that it's amplified through pickups.68.232.203.30 -ChrisC 17:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GFDL violation at musical-instrument.koopal.com

One of the authors of this page might like to send a GFDL notice to the site owners of http://musical-instrument.koopal.com/. See what I did (from a position of ignorance) at Talk:Double_bass#Plagiarism/Copyright Issues? and the e-mail I sent at Talk:Double_bass/Copyright_notice which then led me to find the proper things to do at Wikipedia:Standard GFDL violation letter and WP:MF. This last site contains steps that a contributor might want to follow. There are related koopal.com transgressions - I don't have time to track them all down. Andrew Kepert 10:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)