Talk:Music of Italy

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[edit] regions

I adjusted that section by shifting a few sentences so that we get a smoother flow from lead to northern to southern. Jeffmatt 05:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks good - I'm also fine with adding a paragraph on film music, though I'm not entirely sure I agree with the placement. I think I'll make some small edits tonight and hopefully make a couple sound samples (may not have time to upload them, but I'll make them). Tuf-Kat 00:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I put in a couple of blue links to new stubs, one of Weapon dance. The film music paragraph could fit in other places, too, I think. I just chose one that looked good at the moment. I look forward to sound samples, though I think I am a bit technically challenged when it comes to that. I have made MP3 files before, but... Jeffmatt 05:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sound files

Hey, nice job on the sound files! I never even had to download the .ogg player. My Irfan photo view has a sound player, as well. Picked it right up. Curious about copyright--say, on those Caruso things. They're from the 1975 RCA 100th anniversary of Caruso's Birth release. They are all re-releases, of course, but a re-release can be copyrighted. If two guys named Vinnie from RCA come to visit me, shall I send them to you?

I also redid the link to Chitarra_battente. It was a one-liner, but it's an important folk instrument, so I expanded it. Jeffmatt 03:47, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't actually upload any of the current ones, they're all from the commons. So, tell the Vinnies I'm only the middleman... Maybe that'll give me enough time for Witness Protection Tuf-Kat 14:14, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Curious---the caption on that 100px photo of Puccini doesn't appear, but the mark-up looks correct, at least to my inexperienced eye.Jeffmatt 14:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I fixed it. It was missing a set of ]] (one for the Puccini link, and one for the pic). Tuf-Kat 00:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC) It wasn't defined as a thumbnail. Tuf-Kat 00:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Steps forward

I've archived the talk page (feel free to bring something back if I was too aggressive, but this page is long). And I'm about to active a Wikipedia:Peer review/Music of Italy. Tuf-Kat 00:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

The shorter discussion page is fine: the original was huge. The music additions are fine. The article looks good, I think. Jeffmatt 06:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I had to change this sentence in "popular music"--"Jazz remained little known, however, and Italy remained largely closed from international popular music until the end of World War 2." Whatever source says that has innaccuratley conflated early and late Fascism in Italy. Italy was closed culturally from about 1936/7. Before that, Italy was quite open. Louis Armstrong toured Italy in 1935.

I finally put up a short item on Italian jazz, although in its current state it is kind of a rehash of what is in the main article. I made it a stub---needs work (which I shall get to sooner or later)---but at least it cleared out the last red link in the infobox. Jeffmatt 12:13, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] citation needed?

I disagree with some of those "citation needed" inserts. It is not generally necessary to cite common knowledge--such as the most popular song festival in Italy. In any event, I'll see what I can do. Jeffmatt 08:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] small change to lead

I took the liberty of deleting the phrase "and perception" after "Instrumental and vocal classical music is an iconic part of Italian identity..." It was unclear to me in the sense that I think I know what it means ("...as well as the way in Italians are perceived by others") but I can't come up with a less wordy way of saying it--- "...and perception..." by itself makes it sound as if maybe the Italians are doing the perceiving. Small point, but we don't want give the nit-pickers a blank check.Jeffmatt 18:46, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] another change to lead?

I haven't made this one, but anticipating comments on the next FA-go-round similar to the first time, I suggest minor changes along the lines of: "...Italian innovation in musical scales, harmony, notation, and theater were necessary to the development of musical forms such as opera in the late 16th century and then later forms in European classical music, such as the symphony and concerto.

"Instrumental and vocal classical music is an iconic part of Italian identity, spanning experimental art music and international fusions to symphonic music and opera. Opera is integral to Italian musical identity, and though, by defintion, not "pop music" is nontheless a major segment of music that is popular."

Maybe that last part is clunky, but I am trying to find a way around the objection to calling opera "popular music" and yet show that opera commonly shows up in such pop formats as musical variety shows on Italian television, for example. Jeffmatt 07:09, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] imported styles

In the fifth paragraph of this section, there was half a sentence (mentioning the TV show "Sabato Sera"). I couldn't find the original in the history, so I reconstructed something plausible, I hope. Jeffmatt 07:35, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vasco Rossi

In the article is not present the roker Vasco Rossi. He is the gretest italian roker and the best seller cantautore in Italy but not very know outside of Italy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.110.20.97 (talk) 15:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC).