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[edit] Sound of the day
Wikipedia:Sound of the day has been on the front side of this page for several months now, though I've neglected to update the weekly offerings for quite a while. What I want to know is, have folks noticed it? I'm going to try to revive it in the coming days; anyone who is interested in helping please see Wikipedia talk:Sound of the day. Thanks.--Pharos 03:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- Correct me if I err, but it seems that the content in question is rather stagnant. Perhaps now is the time to re-evaluate if this is the best use of the real estate on the portal's main page. Changing the image periodically might help draw attention to the section; seeing the gramophone daily is, in a word, underwhelming. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 15:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Good idea re: image changing. I propose (and just implemented) images relating to the current featured files. If there is no GFDL-compatible image, we can use another image — the gramophone, or maybe just a note — for backup. Λυδαcιτγ 22:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Cosmetic changes are nice, but how about the actual content? If the information is stagnant, then the effort might amount to "lipstick on a pig." --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 23:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Featured sounds is finally up and running, so hopefully when we get a few more passed noms in Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates we'll revamp Sound of the Day soon.--Pharos 00:14, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- Given the earlier post about action over "...the coming days...", qualifying "soon" in this context might be helpful... --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 21:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- A few weeks, or maybe less; that's how long it would take to approve at least seven or so featured sounds at the current rate.--Pharos 00:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- Given the earlier post about action over "...the coming days...", qualifying "soon" in this context might be helpful... --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 21:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Featured sounds is finally up and running, so hopefully when we get a few more passed noms in Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates we'll revamp Sound of the Day soon.--Pharos 00:14, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- Cosmetic changes are nice, but how about the actual content? If the information is stagnant, then the effort might amount to "lipstick on a pig." --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 23:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Good idea re: image changing. I propose (and just implemented) images relating to the current featured files. If there is no GFDL-compatible image, we can use another image — the gramophone, or maybe just a note — for backup. Λυδαcιτγ 22:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] RFI
Two questions:
1. Recently, I have refrained from participating in discussions on this talk page; the feature [of convenience] which allows feedback to specific subsections — a local edit button — has been missing for quite a while now. Is anyone else aware of this? Having to use the main edit button when this page is overloaded with discussions can be quite cumbersome.
- Fixed. Λυδαcιτγ 21:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- What was responsible for the missing feature? Also, what was the fix for the issue? --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 04:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think it was a problem with the Todo box somehow conflicting. Madder 20:56, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
2. The January 08 birthday entry on Wendell Phillips Culley was concealed for some unexplained reason. What specifically is the issue with the entry? --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 15:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- If it's not concealed, the entry appears like this:
- Wendell Phillips Culley (January 8, 1906 –[[ June {{{6}}}| June {{{6}}}]], 1983), American trumpeter, would have turned 101 this year.
- I wasn't sure how to fix it so I just commented it out for the time being, so it can quickly be reinstated when the problem is sorted.I think it might have something to do with the last variable in the template entry being a month (June) rather than the specific date (a number), but I'm not sure? Madder 22:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Birthdays
The birthdays section is really cumbersome. I think that we should create two separate sections, one for living people, and one for the deceased to cut some confusion. bibliomaniac15 00:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- How would that help? Λυδαcιτγ 00:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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- I think the real problem is that hidemain=true isn't being put in enough and so the list is too long and full of red links. I've been going through putting in hidemain=true for some time now but it's a pain in the neck, and I've even looked into an automated way of doing it but can't find anything. I don't think dividing it into separate sections would help, rather it would make the whole thing even more laborious than it already is. We really need some automated way of sticking hidemain=true into entries with red links, and every other odd entry to shorten the list, because at the moment it's just making Portal:Music look a plain mess, and I just can't keep up with having to update it the whole time. Best, Madder 17:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Adding the hidemain attribute to redlinked articles would be easy. I can do that if you want. Λυδαcιτγ 18:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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- All right, it wasn't as easy as I thought it would be, but I did this. However, you have to use the pagelink variable if you want an entry whose page is not at the author's name to show up on the main Portal page - so Folajimi, piped entries won't show up. Here's how to make the change. Λυδαcιτγ 19:54, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
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I was thinking columns, not sections. Sorry for the miswording. bibliomaniac15 18:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- This appears to be a form vs. function issue; the aesthetics can be resolved once the information is available. In the meantime, the list of birthdays could be removed from the main page, so as to avoid drawing attention to the list Just a thought. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 20:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- Would that mean that once all the birthdays are entered and hidemain=true has been entered on every page, the birthdays would be restored to the main page? Madder 14:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- It might be more efficient to have the section limit listings displayed on the page to a dozen lines or less. This will address the issue of manageability, which could (for other reasons) crop up in the future... Folajimi 16:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- How? By editing the box on the Portal page to only be a certain length? I'm not sure if that would work, but perhaps it's worth a try. Λυδαcιτγ 19:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. The idea was to avoid additional "hard coding" – either by creating another list or otherwise. Dynamic listing of entries may be a pipe dream, though. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 20:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Red links might still slip through though, which we don't want on a portal page. How can this be avoided? Madder 16:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Oh and there seems to be a problem with the deaths thing in the news, for some reason the one name that it should be displaying is appearing twice, even though it's only been entered once. I looked at the code but can't see what's wrong with it? Madder 17:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed. Λυδαcιτγ 23:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Oh and there seems to be a problem with the deaths thing in the news, for some reason the one name that it should be displaying is appearing twice, even though it's only been entered once. I looked at the code but can't see what's wrong with it? Madder 17:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- I can implement this also. Check out User:Audacity/Sandbox for an example. But I haven't tested it thoroughly, and I'm not sure how the pixel limit would respond to different page and entry sizes. If you want me to experiment more with this, I can do so. Λυδαcιτγ 15:57, 3 February 2007
- Red links might still slip through though, which we don't want on a portal page. How can this be avoided? Madder 16:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. The idea was to avoid additional "hard coding" – either by creating another list or otherwise. Dynamic listing of entries may be a pipe dream, though. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 20:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- How? By editing the box on the Portal page to only be a certain length? I'm not sure if that would work, but perhaps it's worth a try. Λυδαcιτγ 19:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- It might be more efficient to have the section limit listings displayed on the page to a dozen lines or less. This will address the issue of manageability, which could (for other reasons) crop up in the future... Folajimi 16:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Would that mean that once all the birthdays are entered and hidemain=true has been entered on every page, the birthdays would be restored to the main page? Madder 14:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- I took the dead people off of the main Portal page. Λυδαcιτγ 20:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Meaning that only Portal:Music/DateOfBirth entries for living people will show on the main page. Λυδαcιτγ 00:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yep understood, looks much much better Madder 02:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Meaning that only Portal:Music/DateOfBirth entries for living people will show on the main page. Λυδαcιτγ 00:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Single calendar
As it stands, a new calendar has to be created annually for each month of birthdays. For example, Portal:Music/DateOfBirth/February/2007 will be useless next year because the current month fails to account for the extra date of the leap year. This means that Portal:Music/DateOfBirth/February/2008 will have to be created, and the day the month starts will have to be recalculated.
Is it possible to have a single list of calendar dates, which automatically adjusts to determine which day of the week the month begins? It would also avoid having to manually determine how many rows of weeks needs to be "hard coded" into each template.
An apropos example of the row calculation would be Portal:Music/DateOfBirth/December/2006, which happened to span across six weeks. (Note that the same could be said for any other month — except February of course...) --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 14:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure that this is impossible with the current magic words. However, one way to save time would be to do a big transfer for the next year or two from the main calendar pages, like {{FebruaryCalendar2007}} and {{FebruaryCalendar2007Source}}.
- Alternatively, we could ask the owner of the bot which made the main calendar source pages to run the bot again, and include an optional variable that we could use to make each calendar link to the DOB page, rather than the article about that date. Then, instead of creating new pages for each month, we would link to the main calendar page for that month, which would be updated by the updater of those pages. Λυδαcιτγ 19:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- The idea is to make the calendar as dynamic as possible; if using the bot would be the most effective method of achieving this goal, then perhaps that would be the best route to take. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 22:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, the functionality was already in the source code. Everything should be set until 2025! Λυδαcιτγ 04:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- How can this functionality be employed here? --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 14:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- Now, instead of creating new pages for each year, we let the main calendar bot create the pages (which have been made up to 2025) and base our calendars on the source code for theirs.
- How can this functionality be employed here? --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 14:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, the functionality was already in the source code. Everything should be set until 2025! Λυδαcιτγ 04:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- The idea is to make the calendar as dynamic as possible; if using the bot would be the most effective method of achieving this goal, then perhaps that would be the best route to take. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 22:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Unless someone sees a problem with the new system, I'll ask an admin to delete all the Portal:Music/DateOfBirth/<Month>/<2006/2007> pages. Λυδαcιτγ 18:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- I guess that takes care of that. Thanks for looking into this matter. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 02:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Unless someone sees a problem with the new system, I'll ask an admin to delete all the Portal:Music/DateOfBirth/<Month>/<2006/2007> pages. Λυδαcιτγ 18:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Page format
Is much of the page garbled, like overlapping headings, large gaps, etc. or is it just my screen? Cricket02 03:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- It's fine for me. Maybe get Firefox if you don't have it already? Or try adjusting your font size? Λυδαcιτγ 03:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Hmmm. I figured it was just this screen so I tried looking on a different puter and no change. And I just tried many other portals and subportals and they look fine. I dunno. Cricket02 05:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Come to think of it, I've been on the page many times before and it looked fine then. ??? Is it just me? Cricket02 05:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not at Firefox, and on my screen it's the same. Tomer T 21:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- I just wonder why all the other subportals show up fine on my screen(s), just not the music portal......any ideas?? Its kinda got me baffled. Cricket02 01:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I would suggest creating a user subpage (e.g., User:Cricket02/Test), copying the source code from Portal:Music, and playing around with the code. If you find a fix you can then apply it to the actual Portal page. Λυδαcιτγ 02:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Audacity's suggestion. Could you also give us the platform you're using, ie. exact operating system version, browser version etc. Madder 00:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I would suggest creating a user subpage (e.g., User:Cricket02/Test), copying the source code from Portal:Music, and playing around with the code. If you find a fix you can then apply it to the actual Portal page. Λυδαcιτγ 02:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I just wonder why all the other subportals show up fine on my screen(s), just not the music portal......any ideas?? Its kinda got me baffled. Cricket02 01:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not at Firefox, and on my screen it's the same. Tomer T 21:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- I just wonder why all the other subportals show up fine on my screen(s), just not the music portal......any ideas?? Its kinda got me baffled. Cricket02 01:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I would suggest creating a user subpage (e.g., User:Cricket02/Test), copying the source code from Portal:Music, and playing around with the code. If you find a fix you can then apply it to the actual Portal page. Λυδαcιτγ 02:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Audacity's suggestion. Could you also give us the platform you're using, ie. exact operating system version, browser version etc. Madder 00:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I thought that was a good idea too, but tried and failed miserably (technically challenged). Anyway, I just now finally took the time to check into what Firefox was, downloaded it as my new web browser, and what a difference. The page is perfect. I use Windows 2000 and had IE 6.0, of which has been screwing up lately anyway like shutting down, etc., very aggravating, so I think I'm really going to like Firefox as a browser, never actually knew there were choices before, (duh). I thank you both for your suggestions. Cricket02 00:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I would suggest creating a user subpage (e.g., User:Cricket02/Test), copying the source code from Portal:Music, and playing around with the code. If you find a fix you can then apply it to the actual Portal page. Λυδαcιτγ 02:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I just wonder why all the other subportals show up fine on my screen(s), just not the music portal......any ideas?? Its kinda got me baffled. Cricket02 01:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not at Firefox, and on my screen it's the same. Tomer T 21:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Come to think of it, I've been on the page many times before and it looked fine then. ??? Is it just me? Cricket02 05:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm. I figured it was just this screen so I tried looking on a different puter and no change. And I just tried many other portals and subportals and they look fine. I dunno. Cricket02 05:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Offline version
Is there a way I could download an offline version of the entire music subgroup? I'd like to have it as an offline reference...is that even possible? Help would be appreciated, thank you!! Cam hovey90 02:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- I know a CD of selected Wikipedia articles is released, but I don't know which articles are on there and how one would go about obtaining it. A google search for "offline wikipedia" also brings up some interesting results. Madder 14:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
