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[edit] Welcome

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Hello, Murcielago, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!  -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 20:01, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Cañada

About the image, I see you uploaded a .pdf, which unfortunately cannot be directly linked as an image. I tried extracting the image from the file but it lost a lot of quality in the process. Could you scan the image again and save it as low-compression .jpg? Then you could send it to me or upload it here directly. Let me know if you need any help. Cheers. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 20:01, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 22:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Mora

Pretty good job for a first article. You can see the changes I made by clicking history. One suggestion is that whatever words are used in the article's title are bolded where they appear in the first paragraph. Wikilinks are what makes Wikipedia fun and addictive. If you don't include them, someone will add them in later, but it is standard practice. I added that battle box, but I just copied it from another Mexican-American War battle article and changed the stats. I have discovered that copying stuff (like tables, etc.) from other articles is simpler than starting from scratch. And finally, every article should have at least one category. Categorizing articles makes it easier for others to find and improve them. Otra sugerencia--you may want to look into merging this account with your use as an IP, or maybe just move the content of your other talkpage to this one. Or mention that you used to contribute as an IP (and which one) on your user page. You might want to put something, even if its just a blank space on your user page, just so it doesn't show up as a redlink. Andale, pues, y sigue echándole ganas.--Rockero420 16:48, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good to see you editing

Keep it up! -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 19:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Embudo Pass

I had been working on an article about this fight for a while and you just beat me to posting it. I will be adding some details and some pictures and perhaps a map or two - as well as a few more references shortly. One place that I have NOT ventured into is creating and editing things such as the box that you included on the right. The change that needs to happen (opinion) - and I'll try to do it, but don't want to mess up the great job that you did, was to add Pueblo Indians - or something along that line - to the list of combatents. The US Army was headed for a much larger fight at Taos Pueblo so there definately were Pueblos at Embudo Pass. Life is an adventure. Carptrash 17:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

another thing to consider is that the town of Embudo, where the fight took place [near] is now called Dixon, New Mexico, so you might at least consider making that change. This could be a lot of fun, and i DO understand the limited number of hours in a day. Carptrash 19:24, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
And the Apaches are going to show up again in the Battle of Cienequilla in 1854. Carptrash 20:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC) PS - if you are in NM, I am planing a day trip to the Glorieta Pass battle-site in March, on one of the days that the battle was fought and you would be very welcome. I walked both the Embudo Pass and Cieneguilla battle grounds on their anniversaries and doing Glorieta will give me the hat trick.
I did not realize that there might be a re-enactment, it is definately something that I'll look for. I am planning on doing some architecture of NM articles and also some on the architects - Meens and Rapp for sure. The area that I felt that I had most to offer wikipedia has been sculpture and architecture [history of], but I have always been fascinated by history in general and local in particular and so have been branching out a bit. I would very much enjoy working together with you. Carptrash 20:36, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I just checked with my traveling companion and Feb 1 in Mora is a definate "maybe." I will have to check out the article on the Battle of Mora to get more details and perhaps I can return with a picture or two. Thanks, amigo. Carptrash 23:27, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
yes, directions would be very welcome. I have just finished reading John Durand's book, "The Taos Massacres" which is sort of a loose history of the time - loose in the sense that the author has dialogue and uses his imagination to fill in some missing information, but it is very researched and he makes a point of saying that his narative is in accordance with all the known facts. Anyway St. Vrain plays a big part in the story and I like to pay my respects. Carptrash 23:48, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I just printed out your directions and will let you know when/if it happens. Meanwhile I just slopped together a piece on John Burgwin that you should feel free to have a go at. Or, . . . ...... you might just wish to stay as far away as you can. Carptrash 00:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taos Revolt

Coolness Personified.


I am strongly tempted to change Siege of Pueblo de Taos to the Battle of Taos Pueblo, or is this too gringocentric of me? Or, maybe it just needs a redirect - which I don't know how to do. I just found a wonderful quote from Lewis H. Garrard, who was in Taos at the trials after the revolt that I was going to add in the Siege article. I guess that I still will, but it might belong over here too, or instead. Carptrash 01:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

check out this web site for another opinion of those executed. http://www.kmitch.com/Taos/revolt1847.html it lists Tomasito as being one of those hanged, which I am pretty clear that he was NOT, but non-the-less it looks pretty good. It's where I got some of my stats from and should go in the Links section somewhere. I think that the numbers involved at almost every aspect of these events are at best someone's guesses. Anyway, i just stopped at the Dixon library and grabbed a handful of books - and was interested to note that no one had checked them out since I had done so 2 years ago. You'll see them appear on the Refferences of various articles. Also the WPA Guide which had some tib-bit about Moro that I was going to use. The trip to which, I might add, is now in jepardy because it has begun snowing. Life is good, but snow is best experienced looking out the living room window rather than driving through in 10,000 foot passes. Carptrash 23:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Good catch on the Tomas conundrum. I just added another reference to "Romero" on some talk page, so I'm hanging with it a bit longer. And yes, Moro is probably off for now. Carptrash 23:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OH

He definitely needed an article. But he's actually Cuban-American, so technically wouldn't fall under the purview of the project. But it was a good way to bring it to someone's attention. A better way, however, would be to include your articles in at least one category. I am convinced that that is the number one way that people find articles they're interested in. Like if he would've been categorized as a Pulitzer Prize winner, then some literature freak out there might have picked up where you left off. Another way (although this sometimes just sends articles into oblivion) is by tagging it as a stub. You can see an entire list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types. Or I think you can just put {{stub}}, and someone else will sort it out. Good looking out ese.--Rockero420 05:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The penitents

That's the problem. If you follow wiki policies, then you will have to exclude oral sources, unless, for example, you find transcripts (or recordings) of interviews or oral histories, which who knows, there may be some in the Special Collections of UNM or somewhere. One of wikipedia's shortcomings is the difficulty in policing the sources issue. In my opinion, it can be exploited for the good if it is on a non-controversial topic and is written in a way that doesn't make it totally obvious that it is original research. In my article on your home state's Sandia Pueblo, I included "original research" on customs and things like that because the one publication specifically dedicated to the tribe is pretty old and is a history, not an ethnography. So I included what I knew from experience, but only listed my textual sources. I actually wrote it before I knew the no original research policy, so I mention on the talk page that some of my sources were oral. But nobody has challenged it, partly because nobody reads it, but I also think part of the reason is because it doesn't stick out--that is, it flows well and is cautiously included. So I recommend that either a) you write a paper on the Penitentes and get it published somewhere, and then use it as one of your sources (the easy/hard way out that might not be bad for your academic career, either), or b) read all the literature out there and then selectively include what they write at the same time as you artfully include what you know. For example, if some scholar makes a big deal about something that isn't a big part of the group, like say the flagellation, then try to isolate them in that analysis by mentioning that they are the only ones who make a big deal about it. If you take on the responsibility of writing the article, you can craft it any way you see fit. And if you're good enough with your words, you can create the impression you want to on your reader and still follow (or skirt) Wikipedia's rules. Suerte pues, --Rockero420 06:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RLT

I just finished Tijerina's autobiography last week but I haven't gotten around to fixing the article. I notice you added in some background on the land grant struggle--good work. I want to be more specific-get into Thomas Catron and the Santa Fe Ring, talk about Governor Pile, etc. I'm also trying to find a PD image of the man (no luck yet). You're in NM, right? So maybe you can get a hold of some things I can't, like newspapers, etc.? I haven't gotten around to reading the Nobokov book, but I think I can expand and correct the article at least a little from the autobio. Maybe we can split up the work if you're interested....--Rockero420 20:58, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Bummer, I thought you were still there. There is already an article on the Alianza, which desperately needs expansion, but perhaps an overarching article on land grants in general is warranted. For now maybe we should focus on expanding the bio and the org articles? I think we can get most of the pertinent info about the struggle into the Alianza article...--Rockero420 21:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
No, he doesn't mention either of them.--Rockero420 21:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I've done about as much as I can on the Tijerina article without reading more books. I'd be glad if you gave it a once over, though. The land grant issue definitely needs more coverage on the wiki, and I hope we can accomplish this goal.--Rockero420 07:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the additions. Can you take the "revised" template off when you're done? I doubt anyone else will know/care enough to review it...Gracias.--Rockero420 18:53, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject

Just thought I'd let you know about Wikipedia:WikiProject Mexican-Americans/Chicanos. Some of the other guys and I have been working to create and expand Mexican-American and Chicano-related articles, and I think you'd be a valuable asset. Check out the project page and sign up if you're interested. In case its any enticement, I've been awarding the Chicano barnstar to participants who write three new articles. PAZ, --Rockero420 22:33, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yet another message from ese pinche Rockero...

Holy land grants, Batman! Ha, just kidding. I still haven't gotten around to looking over the Pueblo Revolt article, and the reason is because I had been hoping to expand it myself. I checked out a book (a pretty recent one, with essays written from various perspectives--there is even one by Angélico Chávez!) and started reading it, but I haven't gotten too far. I'm sure whatever is there is better than what we had before, but I like to withhold edits until I know what I'm talking about, if at all possible.

Have you seen what's going on with Caló (Chicano)? Cityside Seraph has gone to town, making many edits. Some of them are helpful, as the article needed (needs) a lot of work. But but most of them were made without any concensus from the community. He/she has also accused me (not in so many words) of elitism. It seems this person is fairly new and not quite familiar with policies and procedures yet. I'm going to propose some mergers and renames, and I just wanted to give you a heads up since you expressed similar concerns to mine on the talk page. I may need your help to convince homie that I'm not trying to censor anyone's input or anything, if it comes down to that.

Thanks again for your help w/ RLT. And I thought I'd mention that I have some sandbox articles on specific grants on my userpage (Bacs à sable) that I hope to create real articles out of someday, whenever I get around to doing more research. But if you feel inclined to expand them or even post them yourself, I would appreciate your input/efforts.

Paz, vale--Rockero420 00:10, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chávez

¿Qué pasa Murciélago? I want you to check out Angélico Chávez. I read his essay on the Pueblo Revolt, and makes the intriguing suggestion that a mulatto named Domingo Naranjo became the representative of Pohé-meyo (a sun kachina?) and directed the revolt from a Taos kiva. Another historian I just read makes a somewhat big deal about the participation of mestizos in the Revolt. I mention this because I seem to remember your questioning the mestizo participation in the revolt somewhere. I delinked Revolt of 1837 in a few articles, since it linked to a Canadian revolt, so we may need to write a new article. I also changed Mora, New Mexico from a redirect to Mora County into a stub on the city proper. Is there anything you can do to expand it? Gracias, --Rockero 21:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Manuel Chaves

Hi. I was glad to see your work on Manuel Chaves, and I cleaned it up a bit. It had taken me quite a while to locate Texas Santa Fe Expedition, but I thought we might as well link to it instead of explaining the expedition, which was ostensibly not an invasion; historians apparently debate its real purpose.

Also, how sure are you that the Mexican government decorated Chaves for his actions with regard to that expedition? Simmons doesn't mention it, though he does rather sarcastically mention a medal for Armijo, and Simmons seems to be pretty complete about any official mention of Chaves. I'm wondering whether there's some confusion about who got the medal.

By the way, Armijo needs an article, imho. I might start it if nobody else does. —JerryFriedman 17:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, "no further questions". I'd still like to see Twitchell's source, but it would take more digging than I think we need to do. (By the way, Simmons mentiones Chaves's friendship with Cook too.) —JerryFriedman 21:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pachuca fashion

Good looking out. It can be hard to know about new articles. I have commented on the talkpage and placed a merge tag. If nobody objects, I'll merge them later on.

I appreciate your offer to support my candidacy for admin, but it might reflect poorly on me to in the eyes of some editors to announce it here. But since you asked, I suppose I can point you to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Rockero. --Rockero 20:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thx

Hey Bat-man. I'm an admin. Any problems, just let me know. Oh, BTW, did you know that there has been an article about Padre Antonio Martinez for a while now? It's under Padre Martinez. Check it out.--Rockero 00:41, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Padre Martinez

Thank you for your help. I plan to write some more articles about famous native New Mexicans and appreciate the guidance. If you have any good tips or shortcuts they'd be greatly appreciated. Kevin 02:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the Brotherhood

I gave it a once-over for links. I don't know too much about them, so you may need to verify. For one, I changed the lead from "sect" to "lay order", but I'm not sure if that is exactly accurate. One of Fray Angelico Chavez's short stories from New Mexico Triptych is called "The Penitente Thief"... think it should be mentioned? Good job once again, Murci.--Rockero 18:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

After re-reading religious order, I wonder if it was the correct designation. Orders can include the laity, but the definition as "an organization of people who live in some way set apart from society in accordance with religious devotion" really doesn't seem to fit the cofradía. I am definitely opposed to "sect", however, because it connotes (if not denotes) a deviation from an orthodoxy. While some of their practices may not be exactly orthodox, they are Catholics and function within the church, not in opposition to it. Come to think of it, maybe "cofraternity" is the best way to describe them?? Let me know what you think. PAZ, --Rockero 00:54, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revolt of 1837

Nice job—thanks for pointing it out. I just put in a lot of links and made it more concise. I've returned the biography of Manuel Chaves I was using to the library, but one of these days I'll get it out again and see if I can make any substantive additions, though your article looks complete. —JerryFriedman 17:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's a very good article. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 20:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Way to go. I've returned my book on the Revolt to the library because i didn't get to it until the fines were starting to pile up, but its there, waiting.. Carptrash 05:08, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Penitentes

I'm glad to see there's finally an article, and a good one, on the penitentes. But why is the word redlinked? That's what everybody calls them, as far as I know. I'd add a redirect, but I'm wondering what your reason is.

By the way, both the American Heritage and Merriam-Webster dictionaries on line list "confraternity" but not "cofraternity", so I think "confraternity" is the best translation of cofradía. I'll change the Argentinian Los Penitentes. And at some point I may see if I can find some documented information to expand the article. (This could include a glance at Brave New World to see whether John the Savage's community is based partly on the penitentes, as I remember.) —JerryFriedman 17:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Here's what's at the redirect page: #REDIRECT [[Los Penitentes (New Mexico)]]. Very simple (though I've gotten it wrong a number of times by leaving out the brackets) and useful.
However, now that you've told me the article name wasn't a throughly considered consensus, I think there could be a better name, so I'm going to suggest something at the discussion page.
Undocumented factoid: in Santa Cruz, at least, there are two moradas, one supervised by the Church and one not. A member of the unofficial one refers to the official one as "the pretenders' morada". Or so a friend has told me.

—JerryFriedman 22:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saints Wikiproject

I noted that you have been contributing to articles about saints. I invite you to join the WikiProject Saints. You can sign up on the page and add the following userbox to your user page.

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I also invite you to join the discussion on prayers and infoboxes here: Prayers_are_NPOV.

Thanks! --evrik 15:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inserting images

Have you looked at the Picture tutorial? Go through it and let me know if you have aby further questions! Regards. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 13:00, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Yup, that worked out quite good. It doesn't really get more complicated than that, so I'd say you are pretty much through with images. Nice contributions, by the way. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 15:18, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Award for you

De nada. You deserve it. Feel free to give the award to other editors who you think deserve it. --JuanMuslim 1m 02:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Padre Martinez

Thanks for bringing it to my attention, bro. I just saved my changes (after getting logged out), so you can now see what I did. Now I need to work on the references.

When, oh when, will somebody write Manuel Armijo? And will it be me? ¿Ay, cuándo? —JerryFriedman 00:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Thanks for the estrella de granja! Coming soon, maybe this evening: some print sources. But I couldn't stand it any more. Anyway, I'm looking forward to what you'll get from your sources. —JerryFriedman 18:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'll keep putting in information from some sources I got from the library, but don't let me stand in your way! It sure is hard to know who to trust, though. Lots of the accounts seem to come from enemies of Armijo's. —JerryFriedman 01:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help: Ciudad Juárez

Hi,

I saw you on another user's discussion page with a post concerning the Sisters of Loretto... Are you from El Paso? Did you attend Loretto Academy?

Anyways, if you are interested in helping, I am trying to expand the Ciudad Juárez article. Thanks in advance,

Somnabot 21:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Knights of Columbus

Hi! Thanks for voting for the Knights of Columbus on the Catholic Collaboration page! I know that it is not the CCW article for a few weeks, but right now it is up for FAC so if you could see your way over there early that would be great. Right now the only person holding out on supporting it has a complaint about the prose, so copyediting would be particularly helpful. Thanks again! --Briancua 14:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Armijo

Good to see your additions to Manuel Armijo. However, I've got a couple of questions. The article at http://www.latinohistory.com/people.php?id=92 says he was never indicted for treason, but you said he was indicted but not convicted. What's your source? It would be good to straighten that out. And why did you take out the statement that he tried to have the captives from the Texan Santa Fe expedition killed? Because the only testimony we have seems to be from the survivors of the expedition, who hated Armijo?

Footnoted references are easy, it turns out. Where you want the footnote, put

<ref>{{cite book}} or whatever</ref>

If you want to refer to the same work more than once, you can give it a name. The first time, you type the reference as

<ref name=Fulano>book by Fulano</ref>

Later you can refer to it as

<ref name=Fulano/>

and a footnote will appear with the same number as your first reference. Then in the references section of the article, you just put <references/>.

—JerryFriedman 17:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Your article on Armijo is excellent. Finally someone did it! Kevin 22:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstars

I noticed you changed the huelga eagle back to the old version, and then when I didn't see your name on the list of "pages linking to this file", I realized you had yet to have one pinned on! It is long overdue. I also have yet to thank you for the Hermano de Nuevo Mexico award. Please pardon the delay. I am honored. My connection to New Mexico is tenuous--my mother lived there briefly, and my best friend's father, who just passed away last year and to whom I looked as a father figure, was from there. In fact, he told me that the term "ese" was originally S.A., an abbreviation for Spanish-American. Ever heard this? But anyways, the Hermano star made me feel like my connection to the Tierra de Encanto was solidified. Keep up the good wiki-ing, --Rockero 01:55, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to the WikiProject Catholicism 101!

Image:Benedict XVI.jpg

Hello, Murcielago, and welcome to the Wikiproject:Catholicism 101! Thank you for your generous offer to help contribute. I'm sure your input will be much appreciated. I hope you enjoy contributing here and being a Catholic Project Wikipedian! If you have any questions, feel free to discuss anything on the project Talk page, or to leave a message on my own talk page. Please sign all your comments, and be bold with your edits. Again, welcome, and God Bless! - MamaGeek (Talk/Contrib) 10:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for the heads up

on Manuel Armijo. I am moving right now and will not have internet for a while. Being a dj [all are volunteers] at KLDK gives me a place to check stuff but not really to work. Later. Carptrash 17:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

for your comments on my talk page about Rael! Joaquin Murietta 22:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the pointers to Antonio José Martínez . I added a template, but now I am not sure. I wonder if we should create a "history" template for articles like Padre Martinez? Joaquin Murietta 18:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Armijo revisited

Sorry to take so long—I've been doing other stuff (like trying to teach a friend's students APA style by having them fix references on this here Wikipedia). Thanks for the answers. Don't rely too much on the TSFE article--I wrote that part using Simmons, so it's not independent evidence. But Franklin Combs wrote in his journal about Armijo's desire to kill the prisoners, so he would have had to have gone back and changed it, so I'm inclined to believe him. What do you think? —JerryFriedman 01:11, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Historic "Chicanos"

I agree. When we started the wikiproject, we only had one infobox. Now that we have many articles and the infoboxes are getting bigger, we might consider creating four or five new infoboxes, such as "Historic Chicanos". See for example, WikiProject California or, at a minimum: {{WikiProjectNotice}} or {{Template:WikiProjectNotice}} Hope I got that right. Joaquin Murietta 06:11, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

This article is part of WikiProject Mexican-Americans/Chicanos, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles related to Mexican-Americans/Chicanos. For guidelines see the project page and Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ.

[edit] What I did to the Revolt of 1837

Janet Lecompte's book on the Revolt of 1837 looked very reliable—she's a professional historian and quotes lots of primary sources—so where she disagrees with what you wrote based on Salpointe, I just ran right over Salpointe. I'm sorry if this is annoying. Based on our pleasant past interactions, I'm sure you and I can work out any points of disagreement. —JerryFriedman 20:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks a lot Murcielago

Thanks for you help, unfortunately you need to be registered for 30 days and have a munimum of 100 editions at the beginning of the voting, they erased your vote, same with Rockero's. Un abrazo --Cefaro 02:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Hola Tony

Batman (smile), thank you for your nice message. Yes, I do agree with you that Sgt. Peralta deserves a page on every language wiki and that every Hispanic Medal of Honor winner should have a dedicated page as well. You know, it would be nice to see a "Hispanic who were awarded the Medal of Honor" page. I noticed that their are more articles about Hispanics in the English Wiki then the Spanish Wiki (at least that is the case with the Puerto Ricans). As you know, I have written over 300+ articles. I would like to see somebody translate them in Spanish, I wish I could but, I'm almost retired from this already. Anyway, it's been nice chatting with you and I want you to know that you can count on me as a Wiki friend. Tony the Marine 03:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)



[edit] Hispanics awarded the Medal of Honor

I couldn't resist and I wrote the article Hispanics awarded the Medal of Honor. Notice that I didn't title it "Hispanics awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor". The reason being that the medal started to be referred as such from World War II onward. Sgt. Peralta, hasn't been awarded the Medal of Honor yet (to my knowledge) but, I'm sure he will because he was a true hero. He deserves a page here and I think that I will work on it. Everyone should be told about Sgt. Peralta. Tony the Marine 07:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Credit where credit is due. Tony created the article and did all the work; I've only added some references. I have written a number of the articles on the recipients. (Tony's work spurred me on to create a few more.... see David B. Barkley.) — ERcheck (talk) 04:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Medal of Honor recipients

You are most welcome. — ERcheck (talk) 02:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad that you liked the article. ERcheck, who is one of my best friends here, helped link most of the names. I want to thank you for motivating me to do the article. I dedicate it to you and all my brave Hispanic brothers. your friend in Wiki, Tony the Marine 03:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Catholicism Assessment

Hello, fellow WikiProject Catholicism member. The project has recently begun work on assessing articles relating to Catholicism, and you are invited to comment and participate. The subpage for this assessment is located here. Thank you. —Mira 07:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients article.

The Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients page, now at List of Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients, had a comment from an editor about format of the page. Personally, I don't feel that the list format needs to change. I've made a comment about this on article's talk page. You might be interested in weighing in on it. I've left a similar note on User:Marine 69-71's talk page, since he was the article creator. — ERcheck (talk) 23:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peralta page

It is unfortunate that the Peralta article is nominated for deletion on Spanish Wikipedia. My grasp of Spanish is rudimentary, so I didn't follow the nuances of the arguments. Am I correct in assuming that the guidelines for inclusion of biographies are quite different? It is clear that Peralta will have a place in U.S. military history. — ERcheck (talk) 02:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peralta

I went to the Spanish-wiki under the name AntonioMartin (my son is a member and he let me) and I made a strong protest about how the situation was being handled and about what they did to your vote and Rockero's. As you may already know, my comments were deleted, it seems as if they have an anti-American agenda over there. It's a pity. On the other hand, I'm planning on writing an article about Silvestre Herrera, the only man to wear both the MOH and Mexico's equivilant. In person he is a very nice person and as you indicated, every Hispanic MOH deserves an article. Tony the Marine 04:00, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Hispanics awarded the Medal of Honor, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Cactus.man ✍ 10:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Check this out

Check out my new article Silvestre S. Herrera, Tony the Marine 22:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peralta's article has been nominated for deletion

Since you had mentioned to me that the Rafael Peralta article had been nominated for deletion on Spanish Wikipedia, I though you should be aware that the English Wikipedia version has now been nominated for deletion — Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rafael Peralta. — ERcheck (talk) 01:12, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you my brother, it is time that we Hispanics receive recognition for our positive contributions to society instead of the negative coverage that the "media" always gives, don't you agree? The Spanish Wiki sure can learn a lot from us! Tony the Marine 16:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I know what you mean. If you've seen my User page, you know that I was active in the Hispanic cause in the 1960's. I want to share this with you. A few years ago I was at the libraray reading a book about the Battle of Guadacanal. I saw one sentnece, I repeat one sentence which mentioned a General Pedro del Valle. I tried looking for information about this General and there was none, no websites, not even the Marine' Who's who. I took it upon myself to research and write about this General (WW II Hero). Then I wrote to the Marine Corps website and Museum and asked them, Why isn't this person mentioned? Well, he is now mentioned everywhere. (ERcheck moltivated me to furthur research del Valle). Check him out you'll find that there was not only an Eisenhower, Bradly, Patton and McArthur in WW II but, a del Valle also. Tony the Marine 17:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mi Hermano

Hey Batman, thats guy in the talk page, seems to always have a problem with Herrera. He even added some inotes within the the article, when the article first came out as to suggest some doubt. You know, my guess is that the correct name for the medal is "Cruz de Merito Militar", similar to the other Latin-American countries but, maybe you get somebody to find out.

[edit] Can you help with a translation?

Would you please translate this (from [1]):

PROYECTO DE DECRETO ARTICULO UNICO.- Se concede permiso al ciudadano Sargento Primero Asistente de Consultorio Dental, Pablo Mateo Méndez, para aceptar y usar la Condecoración Medalla Honor al Mérito Militar Soldado de la Patria, que le confiere el Gobierno de la República de Nicaragua.- Sala de Comisiones "Miguel Ramos Arizpe" de la H. Cámara de Senadores.- México, D.F., a 18 de octubre de 1999.- La Comisión. -Queda de primera lectura.

Thanks. — ERcheck (talk) 00:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the translation. Just a red herring. I am trying to see if there is information online available on a Mexican site that gives more information from the WW2-era. But, it is clear that I am over my head here, with my rudimentary knowledge of Spanish. I'm going to leave those tasks to you and others who can easily screen sources. — ERcheck (talk) 01:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

See [2] — another University of Texas related source — "Sgt. Lopez was also greeted in Mexico City during his pilgrimage to the Basilica. He was welcomed by President Avila Camacho and was also awarded Mexico’s highest military commemoration, la Condecoracion del Merito Militar." This was a WWII award, so another source, unrelated to information about Herrera indicates that the Mexican Military Merit decoration is the highest medal. — ERcheck (talk) 00:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chat

Check out my new suggestion on the Herrera talk page. Write in your comments. Tony the Marine 00:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Gracias Batman mi hermano, I am honored. Your friend Tony the Marine 04:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Many thanks

Thanks so much for the barnstar. It has been a great learning experience for me as I work on the articles of those who have sacrificed so much. — ERcheck (talk) 05:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

For the kind message you left on my talk page. Bolivian Unicyclist 13:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merito militar

I'll do some research on it, for sure, just give me some time. I'll see if I can clear up this issue by Saturday the latest. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 15:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

This Chicano Tireless Contributor Barnstar is presented to Murcielago (Batman) for his pride and continuous work on Mexican-American related articles. Presented by Tony the Marine 19:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
This Chicano Tireless Contributor Barnstar is presented to Murcielago (Batman) for his pride and continuous work on Mexican-American related articles. Presented by Tony the Marine 19:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I, Tony the Marine, present you Batman, with this barnstar. For me it is an honor to have meet a person whose pride in his people is above and beyond what is normally expected. It is truly an honor to have befriended you. Tony the Marine 19:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] De Castro

My father-in-law tells me that there are De Castro's from the Spanish Canary Islands (It so happens that Joseph's wife came from there.) and that most of them even dropped the "De" when they immigrated to the New World (He's not that old). Anyway, since he is reffered to as Hispanic it may be safe to assume that he was of Spanish descent but, a Hispanic-American since he was born here (USA).

I figured the following, the 19th Mass was an all volunteer unit (a Militia), not part of the regular Army, that when activated fell under the command of Col. Hicks. After the Civil War they were disactivated. Since they were really civilians and not professional soildiers then we can safely assume that even though De Castro was the awarded the first Hispanic-American awarded the MoH, since he was not a professional soldier in the regular Army he was not the first Hispanic awarded the MoH by the Army.

Does this make sense to you? Tony the Marine 00:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I have heard nothing

about the Padre Martinez statue, but saw his photo on the cover of a local newspaper special art section [or something] , so it is very likely that something is going on. If it is there I shall find it, I'll probably be needing groceries this weekend and will be Taos bound. Thanks for the tip. Carptrash 21:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

de nada Carptrash 21:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I was in Taos yesterday and managed to get a few shots of the Padre Martinez statue before the storm drove me out. I am also starting a stub on its author, Huberto Maestas, who, it turns out, I have some other shots of his work [gotta find them, of course] and who lives not too far from here, in San Luis, Colorado. Hopefully I'll line up a wikipedia exclusive with him when the next window of opportunity opens. I had an interesting conversation with two local sculptors who tried [and failed] to obtain the commission. My opinion is that at least one of them would have created a better work of art. Carptrash 16:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I had to leave for an hour to go to a funeral, so missed your message 'till now. I'd taken the picture of the grave sometime ago, and it came to mind so I added it. Let me know when you're going to be in Taos and perhaps we can have a beer [or tea? coffee? lemonade?] somewhere. We can call it a New Mexico/wikipedia conference. Carptrash 18:11, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
One of the advantages to being unemployed is that it makes my schedule very flexable. You can post when you'll be out and about at carptrash or. . . . ..... call Einar [long A as in "eight"] at five-o-five -five seven nine- four four two one. Carptrash 14:47, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chat

Mi Hermano, take a look here:[3], a true friend of the Hispanic-Americans, don't you agree? Tony the Marine 20:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lloyd Monserratt

Please explain your comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lloyd Monserratt. Unless you are willing to give more input, your "vote" (AfD is not a vote) may be discounted by the closing admin. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

          Murcielago, Thanks for supporting my RfA. I am honored that the consensus was to allow me the added privilege of the admin mop. I appreciate your strong support and kind words on my RFA, as well as your note of congratulations. — ERcheck (talk) 01:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject name commentary

Can you comment on this Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mexican-Americans/Chicanos#The_name_..._again? Thanks --evrik 18:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Check this out

Hey my Latin Brother,

I want to share something that happened to me with you. The following Bill Dr. Jose Celso Barbosa Post Office Building Designation Act introduced to the United States House of Representatives by Congressman Luis Fortuño, contains the mini-biography of Dr. Jose Celso Barbosa which I wrote. The bill was signed by President Bush on August 1, 2006. It's now Public Law 109-253. I wrote the law and I didn't even know it (smile). Tony the Marine 06:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Howdy

The Original Barnstar
This barnstar is given to recognize particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, and to let you know that your hard work is seen and appreciated. evrik 23:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting your opinion

I wrote the article Dr. Jose Celso Barbosa Post Office Building Designation Act, the first bill in history that contains an article from Wikipedia. It appeared on DYK and right away somebody "tags" it for deletion. I inviteyou to express yourself here:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Jose Celso Barbosa Post Office Building Designation Act. Thank you Tony the Marine 16:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church

There is a vote at Talk:Roman Catholic Church: A Vote on the Title of this Article on moving Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church. You are invited to review it. --WikiCats 04:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting your opinion

I would like to reguest your opinion in the following issue :Talk:Puerto Rican women in the military

Thank you, Tony the Marine 21:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I was just at Juan de Oñate

and noticed that the picture of him is in fact the cover of Marc Simmons book "The Last Conquistador" and that no mention is made of that. The artist's name is given, but I'm not sure if this is correct copyright usage or not? I'm wondering if you have an opinion, though what i end up doing is all my decision. Carptrash 21:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help Needed

Your help is needed in getting the Elvira Arellano article deleted as non-notable. Please click on the article, and then click on the link at the top to vote. Thanks. –Chicaneo 16:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC) +OOPs - I mean not deleted. Chicaneo 16:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diocesan Infobox

To the Members of the WikiProject Catholicism

I have proposed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Catholicism an infobox for Catholic Dioceses. I have not gotten any feedback on this proposal, so I’m culling feedback, advice, corrections, etc. for this. If you have the time, would you check out User:SkierRMH/Diocese_Infobox and give me some feedback! Thanks much!!

[edit] Check this out

Hi Batman, long time no see! I stumbled across this and thought you might be interested: Atrisco Land Grant. PAZ, --Rockero 19:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Batman

Que pasa? I thought that I would drop you a note to let you know that I've dedicated the last two weeks to writing the bios of every Mexican-American Medal of Honor recipient in the List of Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients. Take a look at these guys and feel the pride: David M. Gonzales, Alejandro R. Ruiz, Rodolfo P. Hernandez, Louis R. Rocco, plus much more. Tu hermano Boricua, Tony the Marine 19:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit]

Feliz Navidad

Tony the Marine
Tony the Marine

O.K., so maybe you don't believe in Santa, but I still want to wish you and your loved ones a "Happy Holidays" and all of the happiness in the world and the best new year ever. Your friend, Tony the Marine 23:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


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Happy New Year

(Feliz Año Nuevo)


Happy New Year from Tony the Marine

Happy New Year from Tony the Marine

I wish you and your loved ones all the happiness in the world this coming year. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marine 69-71 (talk • contribs) 02:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] New article you might be interested in

Thought you might be interested in this new article — Richard E. Cavazos. — ERcheck (talk) 02:18, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wall of Honor

Saludos Batman, I just wanted you to know that I have inducted you to the "Wall of Honor". Tony the Marine 04:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Wall of HonorMurcielago
Wall of Honor

Murcielago

[edit] Possible renaming of Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints

It has been suggested that the above named project be renamed Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian saints. Please express your opinion on this proposed renaming, and the accompanying re-definition of the scope of the project, here. John Carter 17:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Latino stuff

Would you mind commenting on this?

Talk:National Council of La Raza

Thanks,

--evrik (talk) 22:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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