Talk:Murder, Inc.
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[edit] Inaccuracy
I never read so much missinformation and ignorance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 162.83.158.189 (talk • contribs).
- I agree with the above. Murder Inc. was NEVER the name of this group of men, hell, they weren't really a group. The media made up that title and if any of you woudl read the new york times archives you'd see how off the media was at all times in those days. Men like Workman and Red Levine had little to do with Reles, and Reles's jewish band was a seperate entity than Happy Maione's group, though the two often worked together.
- This is my major pet peeve about wikipedia.. too many people repeating false information they read on other sites instead of researching themselves.. An example is on the Coll page where they mention the baby killing incident where Joey Rao was the target.. whereas if you read the actual news paper article it mistakenly recognized Mike Copolla as a Coll hitman and said he was trying to kill one Anthony Strobino, a narcotics dealer, when the children were hit.. thats why the Coll case fell apart. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.215.252.167 (talk • contribs).
I was in this mob.
[edit] Harry Rudolph
- In the 1940s, Murder, Inc. employee Harry Rudolph was framed for murder and sentenced to Rikers Island. He decided to talk to district attorney Burton B. Turkus. Turkus arrested Abe Reles, Martin Goldstein and Dukey Maffetore upon his information. When Reles and Maffetore learned that they had become the next targets lest they talk, they became informants. Allie Tannenbaum, arrested later, also decided to talk.
They knew they were going to be marked for death if they informed, so they decided to inform? I don't get it. Ground 01:59, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Not to pick too fine a nit, but "lest" has the sense of "to prevent" rather than "if"--if Reles and Maffetore had "become the next targets lest they inform," they were going to be killed whether they informed or not on the suspicion that they might, and likely chose to inform hoping that the police could protect them. I can't vouch for the accuracy of that version, but it does make sense. Ground 04:03, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Involvement of Meyer Lansky
Was it really led by Meyer Lansky? His biography says nothing about it. Neither other sources I've read, like crimelibrary.com 193.219.160.2 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Have corrected this section, with references, and removed accuracy template. Lansky was one of the Bosses in New York at that time, but not the leader of the enforcement arm. redcountess 19:59, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with the above comments and might add that this article is still quite a mess. To begin with, I think the name of the article should be "Murder Incorporated" and not "Murder Inc.," as the former is a more common usage.
- Anyway, I've substantially rewritten the piece to bring it into conformity with organized crime literature. It still needs work but I think the major problems are gone, as well as the annoying little stuff like the reference to such and such as an "employee" of Murder Inc.
- Also I removed the reference to a character on the show West Wing having a father in Murder Inc. I don't believe a minor TV character's family history belongs in an encyclopedia article.--Mantanmoreland 23:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] not very good!
This information is slightly muddled and does not really give the true impression of the amercian mafia that other sources have given!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kimmyd (talk • contribs).
- Please feel free to make whatever additions and fixes you feel are necessary, and other editors can of course chime in to as well as I. This is very much a work in progress. However, keep in mind that this is not an article about the American Mafia. Murder Incorporated was not part of the Mafia and, according to Valachi, didn't perform work for Mafia bosses. Also please sign your comments. Thanks.--Mantanmoreland 13:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 8th Airforce
Despite being a journalistic invention, the name 'Murder Incorporated' took root in America's popular imagination. During the Second World War, a B 17 crew used the name for their aircraft and also had the words painted on the back of their flight jackets.
When shot down over Germany, the National Socialist press used this as an illustration of the 'Yankee terror flieger', parading the crew in front of the cameras, in an effort to associate American involvement in the war as little more than large scale gangsterism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.249.162.132 (talk • contribs).
[edit] Updated this Page to Reflect Historically Accurate Information
I added several sections "Gangeters Start Taking" and "The Trials" based on actual newspaper articles. Other sections wil be updated as more accurate information is discovered.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by MileMarker651 (talk • contribs).
- Outstanding work!--Mantanmoreland 19:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
