User:Mulavelil cheriyanadu
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Hey people....This is Manu here....staying with family in Pune city...have been here all my life...but still i have a sort of affinity to my homeland, Kerala. Belong to this erstwhile feudal family in Kerala....am in the 12th standard now....a leeeeetle tensed about 12th...lol...anyways...message me if u think ill be able to answer any thing....i m quite well informed regarding the history of Kerala...
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Hallo manuBold text Pl go through my post in 'Nairs' in the dicussion. Any comments. In one of your posts i'd noticed that you come from a central Travancore family. May i know whic?? I am from Tottapuzha family. The family temple is in Edanattidam about 3 kms from aranmula temple on the way to chenganoor on the banks of Pamba. I think cine strs soman and parvati belong to different branches of the family. RAKS
Manu I saw your posting about damn-care attitude towards Kshatriya staus. however, Sabdathataravali define Nairs as "Nairs are the Malayalee warriors (Kshathriyas) of Kerala. They are the owners of this land.". That's just one point. Of course, since the Chaturvarna is not applicable to kerala as it is in its place of origin in the north, it is better and dignified if we refer ourselves to as just "Nairs- a class of savara Hindus". Not Kshatriyas, nor shudras. We did the kshatriya dharma rahter than the shudra one. The term "Shudra"is misleading since in the north Shudras formed the bottom of caste hierarchy did menial tasks for the upper castes. I am reproducing what a friend of mine sent me.
" However, it may be remembered that 'Shudras' is not used in the same context as found in the nothern part of india. Shudras formed the bottom of caste hierarchy and were banned from learning and administration. they were supposed to do menail tasks for the upper castes.
However, Nairs formed the naduvazhis and other nobility in Kerala political and military setup. Many Nair families formed the hereditary(or otherwise) diwans and commanders in the armies of local rajas. Nairs were not barred from learning sanskrit and had produced scholars through the centuries. Brahmins and royal families had matrimonial alliances with aristocratic Nair families. The consort of many of kings of Travancore and Cochin kings were nairs. Why, the royal family of Palakkad is Nair.
Thus it is seen that the term shudra IF and WHEN used must be put in the proper perspective and context, decipherable and unconfusing even to a non-Keralite. While the claimed superiority or inferiority of one caste over another is laughable (to put it mildly), sociological terminology and connotations have to be used in a discretionary way with out being misled into wrong conclusions."
RAKS
Hi ya my family is in Central Travancore....Mulavely.....we have a family Temple..right in our Tharavad...our Dharma Devi is Mannadi Bhagawathi and Kuladevatha is Pennukara Bhadra...well u rright....actually before the 20th century, all kshatriyas and 'elaya' namboodiris married Nair women only....we are unnithan descended..unithans are children if Thampurans....we have absolutely no information about our branches....but my grandfather;s family there is an actress...she retired in the 1990s only....karthika i think manu
Hallo Manu I'd like to raise one point. As far as I know, Veena Nairs (Villakithala Nairs et al)are those of community who were lowered in rank due to 'Bhrashtu' they were subjected to due to breaking the rigid customs and laws of the community. I wonder how much upper mobility existed in the caste hierarchy in Kerala of old(since the caste system was in place after Brahminisation of the region)!!!! Namboothiris who faced Brashtu (like Smarthavicharam), were lowered to some Ambalavasi caste. Similar process could have created the Fallen nairs. That seems more natural than Untouchables promoted to be part of a Savarna caste. RAKS (August 7, 2006) By the by, that Ravi Varma pic, isn't the title 'Prem Patra'??? RAKS
Hallo manu When you've time you should read the article 'Caste system in Kerala'. It contains some significant errors. It seems that even if you correct them, the corrections are removed and status quo maintained. Read and tell me what do you think about it???? how was ONAM??? RAKS (August 10, 2006)