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[edit] Writing Help Pointers for self

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[edit] Eskimo words for snow

Could you please add some comments on the recent discussion at: talk:Eskimo_words_for_snow. Regards, Fedor 08:40, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Humungous Image Tagging Project

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

[edit] Bengali article

Hello Mukerjee!

First of all, thanks for your input in the Bangla article. It's good to see someone actively editing different sections. I wanted to just add as a comment, however, that the romanization we've been using in the article has been made fairly systematic and consistent owing to the combined efforts of many Wikipedians to accurately describe the phonemic (not phonetic, not orthographic) system of Bengali. I noticed you reverted my edits, where I changed some of your renderings of Bengali words to reflect this romanization. I wanted to let you know that I will probably be changing these back, so as to fit with the rest of the article, and with all the other articles describing any Bengali words in English. Just thought I'd let you know - and of course if you have questions or would like to contribute to our transliteration/transcription debates, please feel free to comment on my user page. Thanks! --SameerKhan 12:45, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Right, I am aware of the difference between transliteration and transcription (I don't have my degree in phonetics/phonology for nothing!). If I have been sloppy about the words I've used, please feel free to edit. I believe that when a few of us were trying to devise a standard Romanization scheme for Bengali on Wikipedia, we were thinking of a phonemic representation (which is technically not transcription either, as a side note) as opposed to a letter-by-letter transliteration, which would be totally unhelpful for non-Bengalis. The idea was to represent the pronunciation of Bengali without getting into the phonetic details of IPA transcription. Anyhow, I'm sure you're aware of this and all... but one thing - please make sure that when you comment on my page, that you comment on my discussion page and not my homepage! Thanks :) --SameerKhan 08:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bangla wikipedia

Hi, you were fairly active in the Bangla wikipedia in the past. Now that we are promoting it greatly, it has grown a lot ... right now up to 1672 articles. If you have time, please check it out (http://bn.wikipedia.org ). Thanks. --Ragib 03:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what you have to do

i doesn't understand why you people interfere with about which you have not much knowledge.Yousaf465

[edit] please don't mess up Gutenberg

Reverts and multiple major edits of the sort I found there today do not help. I've posted the identical note on another page as well.DGG 06:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] and don't mess up printing press, either

We discussed this one once already, and once is enough. You and I and our friends took the East Asian material, formerly mentioned in small sections scattered over various pages, and gave it what was merited by its importance and stature, the page History of Typography in East Asia, a title worked out through consultation. References have been made to this page from all appropriate places we could think of, and if you can find some more places for a see also:, please add them. The title is sufficiently distinctive to make the meaning of the cross reference very clear: one page is discussing one tradition, the other page is discussing another. This is not a POV split--the POV is identical: there are two important traditions, and those who would learn about typography, should learn about both.

The subject you steadfastly and rightly wanted to talk about did not lose by this--it gained. Consolidate the gains, and write some more about it on its page, instead of repeating the same few paragraphs on many pages. I will gladly read what you edit, so I can learn more. My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the EA article should be considerably longer, have more quotes from EA sources in translation, have a more detailed history, discuss the technology in greater detail, discuss the organization of the trade, discuss more of the major printed works, discuss the spread of the printed works into neighboring countries if there is documentation, have associated short biographical sketches of all the major participants, and a longer list of suggested English-language readings.

I've set out quite an agenda, but I have gathered from various comments and contributions that there are others here who can help. I cannot, but only benefit from what the more knowledgeable will write! DGG 03:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] or movable type

seriously, my fellow editor, perhaps a new page might deal with these aspectsDGG 06:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semantics

Thanks for that great expansion of Semantics. I've been thinking it needed an overhaul like this for a while, but never got around to it because of the scope of the enterprise. I think you've done an admirable job of compressing a lot of info in a few concise and clearly worded paragraphs. It may be a little bit skewed towards Peregrin's view on things*, but I think it is a great base to build further on. Thanks again!

Keep up the great work, — mark ✎ 19:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

* I'm missing the embodiment angle for example, with works like Lakoff & Johnson 1980, Lakoff 1987; and non-cognitivist Wittgenstein-inspired views on semantics like those of Sperber & Wilson and Keller (1994, 1996). But hey, I admit that that's rather whiny to say after such a great expansion. So thanks again — your work is highly appreciated!

By the way, are you aware of Countering Systemic Bias? It seems to relate to the discussion started here. You might be specifically interested in its linguistics subsection. Regards, — mark ✎ 20:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Art & craft development v.s technical development

reposted from Talk:History of western typography:

History of western typography is focussed almost exclusively on typographic style and practice as an art and craft, with almost no info on technical developments. That's what Typography, for the most part, is—an art & craft, involving type style and design. Perfect.

Movable type and typefounding are dearly written-about as a separate subject in Movable type (thanks for your additions guys!) It covers the pre-history of typefounding and technical developments in the East, but has little on developments in typographic style as an art and craft—as you would expect. Perfect.

History of typography in East Asia is much the same scope as Movable type but with far less content. It's purely technical and has next-to-nothing on developments in typographic style as an art and craft, use, page effect etc, no names of typefaces or designers. Not so perfect. There is a whole new project for editors interested in filling in this gap in History of typography in East Asia. Thanks!

Remember that it doesn't have to be perfect, and you're encouraged to ignore all rules and use common sense if it results in a better encyclopedia :)
Best regards, Arbo talk 12:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] woodblock printing

You will see you have messed up the footnotes here - please sort ou. Thanks Johnbod 19:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

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Why is movable typ in Korea mentioned in the entry, buy not earlier Chinese movable type? And in a entry like that, which concentrates on the history of movable type (as opposed to its workings), it is certainly worth pointing out, that ALL movable type today traces back to Gutenberg, who already employed the same lead, tin and antimony alloy as today (see EB, 2006, entry 'printing') My propostion is to leave only a single line in the entry (Movable type is the system of printing and typography using movable pieces of metal type, made by casting from matrices struck by letterpunches)Gun Powder Ma 13:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Woodcut

Once again you have messed up the page with the edit - please look at the finished article when you do an edit, to check the result. Please correct.

I agree the article is Eurocentric. When I expanded it it from the purely technical stub I looked for stuff on Wikipedia to add but there was only the ukiyo-e article, which deals with a particular rather late genre of Japanese print. There needs to be an article on Asian prints in general (a parallel to old master print) - were there old Chinese ones? I don't even know. I would rather someone with more knowledge did this.

I don't agree about any renaming. This is a technique article, one of a number feeding from printmaking; the history section here should be brief.

I will copy the last 2 paras about the article to the talk page, Johnbod 18:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Nazrul-stamp-bangladesh.gif)

Thanks for uploading Image:Nazrul-stamp-bangladesh.gif. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

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[edit] Asiancentric article

If you want to see one of these, try Graphic arts. I'm not a tagger myself, but you might want to tag that Johnbod 19:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Metal type casting in China

reposted from User talk:James Arboghast:

There is this paragraph at the bottom of the section (just above metal movable type in Korea):

This system was later enhanced by pressing wooden blocks into sand and casting metal types from the depression in copper, bronze, iron or tin. The set of wafer-like metal stamp types could be assembled to form pages, inked, and page impressions taken from rubbings on cloth or paper.

This belies the whole point of this section - it simply cannot be that bronze or copper were also being cast. Around 1300, tin was being cast in China - the type may have been wafer-thin - it surely failed with the inks they were using then. This sentence is too vague and sweeping... Anyone to throw some light on this? mukerjee (talk) 00:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mukejee. Sorry for the delay replying to this question. I've been flat-out buried under a pile of work in real life.
The info on casting in China came from John Man's The Gutenberg Revolution, chapter 4 "Something in the air", quote, "The same principal was extended to make metal letters: the wood-block was pressed into sand, and the impression used as a mould for bronze, copper, tin, iron or lead. The result was a collection of thin stamps..."
What's so vague and sweeping about that? It's a specific regarding the materials. It may sound sweeping in being all-inclusive (of the metals), if you read it that way. I rewrote the info to avoid copyvio, but otherwise technically the meaning of the passage is equivalent to that in Man's book.
How is it that, "...it simply cannot be that bronze or copper were also being cast." ? John Man may have got the details on casting materials incorrect, or he may have got it right. If other sources contradict his account let's have them.
Arbo talk 04:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sir you posted this on my user page pl use talk page.thanks

I just copyedited the Akbar Bugti page - it was a crying shame... Faiz says, in "Mujh-se Pahli-si Mohabbat, Mere Mehboob, Na Maang": Tera gham hai to gham-e-dahr ka jhagra kya hai? It's a love poem of course, and I can't resist the next two lines:

Teri surat se hai aalam mein baharon ko sabat, Teri aankhon ke siwa duniya mein rakha kya hai?

Mukerjee 05:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

Would you mind weighing in on this debate? --evrik (talk) 15:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Lonchura

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I've deleted Munia, recreated Lonchura prior to your edits, then moved it to Munia, so all should be well. jimfbleak 09:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed the changes that you had made other than the article title. jimfbleak 12:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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