Talk:Muhammad al-Idrisi

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I removed the reference to the Tabula Idrisiana on the grounds that I can find no references at all to this name outside of Wikipedia and its mirrors. So far as I can tell, it's always called Tabula Rogeriana in English --User:Paul Drye

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[edit] usefull information

  • [1] shows many alternative names (transliteration?)
  • [4] the map (again)
  • [5] from [6] online (Spanish translation)
  • [7] follow [8] and [9]

[edit] references in Wikipedia

[edit] About alternative names used for Idrisi

  • Dear friends, I just wundered when looking at Timisoara about the first mention of that town without a link to Idrisi (now it is inserted) and was quite surpriesed as well, that the forms at Timisoara (Sarif al Idrisi) and Idrisi (Idrisi - and also all redirects and forms in other languages) where different.
  • It is the same problem over and over again, also between western languages only. It would be helpfull not to have such great differences between the names in different languages. There allways will be orographical or spelling differences as âl-İdrisi for tt.wikipedia.org and that is OK.
  • Idrisi should not be used alone because it is an disambiguation for

[edit]  ?

when writing about Poland he has conflated it with the land that is the modern-day Czech Republic, because he wrote about "a country surrounded by mountains" — this seems to be a very confused statement. What does it mean? He applied the term "Poland" to an area different from the 1945 polish borders? come on... dab 09:48, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You need of course to pay attention when he wrote his great work. He could neither travel everywhere nor forsee our times. Regards Gangleri 16:00, 2004 Oct 14 (UTC)
that's exactly my meaning. He didn't 'conflate' anything, he wrote about his times, not about modern Europe. I really don't get the point of this passage. dab 22:26, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] See also ...

[edit] page move

I moved it to Muhammad al-Idrisi for consistency with Ahmad ibn Fadlan (first name plus characteristic (geographical) name, not just (al-)Idrisi, but not full name either). I adjusted all redirects (no multiple redirects should be left). dab 22:29, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] consistent name usage

  • Halló, google "&as_sitesearch=en.wikipedia.org&as_q=Idrisi" shows different examples of name usage inside en.wikipedia. How to write the short form of the name: al-Idrisi or Al-Idrisi? If agreement for the short form will be achieved: How to write it at the beginning of a sentence (starting with a majuscle or not)? Gangleri 23:41, 2004 Oct 17 (UTC)

[edit] Map image may not be the best choice

I've uploaded two image files with what look like better copies of the Idrisi map than the one given in the article; both are thumbnailed here for comparison. I suggest the use of either one of these as they include more detail. The one thing about the existing article image is that the map copy is south-oriented just like al-Idrissi's original, but the north-oriented ones are more helpful for comparison with the actual shape in modern maps.

The one on the left is given in the link to "the map" in the section "usefull information " on this talk page. The link's address is http://www.historisches-franken.de/andechs_geheimnis/technik_weltkarte431.htm. The one on the right is from a google search.

Note that both these copies are north-oriented. --Scriber 02:48, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

these are not original, they appear to be european copies. Pure inuyasha 01:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seven continents?

"al-Idrisi constructed a world globe map of 400 Kg pure silver and precisely recorded on it the seven continents with trade routes, lakes and rivers, major cities, and plains and mountains."

How can he have recorded all seven continents in the early 12th century? Honestly.

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