Talk:Muhammad Ali versus Sonny Liston
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I'd appreciate it if you could get some pictures of Muhammed Ali's daughter as a boxer. Thank you!
What does that have to do with Ali-Liston?
[edit] Attendance Numbers
In the Ali vs Liston article it states that the number in attendance was 2,434 but in the Liston page it states something different. Which one is correct?
I dont remember the exact number but that seems about right. It was the lowest attendance for any Heavyweight championship fight... because it was held in an auditorium
[edit] Ali-Liston I
"this view is unproven, as the fight was tied on the judges' scorecards after six rounds"
I removed this part. Fighters have no idea what the scoring is in a fight, and it was clear to everyone at that point that Liston was losing and was headed towards a defeat.
I fail to see what is less than neutral about this rather good article. The fights in question were extremely controversial; in fact they remain two of the most debated fights in ring history. The article is a good summary and avoids taking a firm position one way or the other. I think the bulk of opinion these days is that Liston threw both fights, but that is by no means a universal opinion. Whether he could have won if he wanted to, and why he threw the fights is a whole different debate. Was he just intimidated by Clay/Ali's bluster? By Muslims? By the mob? Also note; Liston had never lost, never so much as been off his feet in the ring, he had latley knocked out 25 fighters including world champion Floyd Paterson. After the Clay/Ali losses he went on to knock out nine more in a row and thirteen out of the next fifteen, including Chuck Wepner who Ali could not knock out. Liston may, in fact, have been the best fighter Clay/Ali ever faced. Clay/Ali was good, but that that good? A first round knock out? Welllll .. maybe .... Nothing totally makes sense in these two fights. However you look at it, something was wrong.
[edit] Taunts?
The photo is captioned "Ali taunts a canvas ridden Liston" but nothing in the article says anything about any taunting. Was this the fight were Ali was standing over his opponent saying "What's my name? What's my name?" Hi There 01:08, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
He wasn't taunting Liston he was telling him to get up and fight. It was the Ernie Terrell fight that Ali kept asking "whats my name".
