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Contents 1 You helped choose {{subst:IDRIVEtopic article}} as this week's WP:ACID winner 2 Liberty ships 3 SS Mary Lyon 4 The Barge in the Lower 9th 5 Hubbell 6 Image copyright problem with Image:Mgilogo.jpg 7 En-dashes 8 Current mac project collaboration 9 Welcome! 10 Mantua 11 WikiProject New Orleans 12 Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies 13 Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter

[edit] You helped choose {{subst:IDRIVEtopic article}} as this week's WP:ACID winner

Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive. This week {{subst:IDRIVEtopic article}} was selected to be improved to featured article status. Hope you can help.

[edit] Liberty ships

That's nice work cross-referencing the namesakes of Liberty ships. Thanks for doing that, and for the other improvements you make along the way. Cheers, -Will Beback 20:31, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, and you're more than welcome. I was intrigued by the large number of female namesakes, and became even more impressed that so many were writers, revolutionaries, even a Soviet aviatrix. Don't think that would happen nowadays. — Muffuletta 03:13, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SS Mary Lyon

According to [1], it appears that Lyon and SS Mary Lyon are indeed named for the same woman. Would you like to make the change to Mary Lyon? Good catch. Jinian 21:10, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

That would be great; thanks. So presumably for three years, at least, Miss Lyon had two active naval ships named for her. I wonder how rare that is. — Muffuletta 00:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, if you count the Liberty ships, I think it might not be particularly rare. Macdonough (DD-351), Macomb (DD-458), Hopkins (DD-249) were all in service at the same time as Liberty ships also named for them -- and those are just the ones I found at first glance. I suspect there were quite a few others. Jinian 02:46, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Barge in the Lower 9th

Thanks for your edit to ING 4727. I'm glad the article got input from someone less ignorant of shipping than I. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 18:40, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Certainly. By the way, I wonder if a crop of this aerial photo could be included in the article. (I have yet to upload any images to Wikipedia or WikiMedia.) — Muffuletta 09:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hubbell

Hi, are you by any chance named Hubbell? My grandmother was a Hubble (Edwin Hubble was her half-second cousin IIRC). Somewhere in my genealogical files I have info on the first Hubbell who started spelling his name Hubble and from whom all Hubbles are descended. Angr/talk 08:25, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, in fact back in the day people would ask me if I was related to Carl Hubbell. More recently they would ask if I was related to the telescope. Never knew what was up with the Hubbell/Hubble split. -- Muffuletta 05:05, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, now if someone asks if you're related to the telescope you can say you know a Wikipedian who is! Angr (talk • contribs) 07:16, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Mgilogo.jpg

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[edit] En-dashes

Fair question, and i don't have a definitive answer. If you don't want to start a discussion of it at the pages in question, i'm doubt i can get to it soon, but if you do i'll try to participate. Worst case, here at least are some issues:

1. Is the guideline intended to cover years of B & D in lists, or just the prescribed full dates of B & D in bio articles? My observation is that it's valuable in separating two full dates, which also have commas and blanks in them, and need a stronger separation than that which is provided by a construction like "1930-1985", which is a self-contained unit, isolated from everything around it by even so little as a pair of spaces, let alone the paren on such lists; its components are clearly divided from each other without taking up extra space with a longer dash (or perhaps more to the point, look bigger than their significance justifies) when rendered, and complicate editing of the lists -- highly structured pages where the (how long?) 5-character (?) codes disrupt editors' visual inspection of the compliance of the markup to the format, requiring the kind of tortuous edit-review cycles i've been in for the last hour and some on one page, List of people by name: Tp-Tr, in trying adjust newly expanded sections to typical window-height in spite of their inflation with verbose comments that defeat the tried-and-true method of eyeballing the nearly always single-line entries against the edit-pane height. (Excuse me if that sounds like blaming you for an unrelated personal gripe (against the otherwise valuable comments), but i think you'll quickly grasp the significance of excessive markup in disrupting efficient editing from this much more onerous case (if you open -- without a subsequent save -- a 15-or-more-entry section, and have thereby some glimpse of how much harder it is to proofread

   (1842&grbge;1749)

   (not an acceptable entry) than

   (1842-1749)

   whose problem the eye grasps quickly almost without conscious attention.)

2. Whether formally or not, the amper-semic codes are in practice highly deprecated, and bots are out there converting the codes to the unicode characters they represent. Besides being bulky and elevating a single character to visual status more like that of the insertion in 1842-fucking-1749 (perhaps to be read "1842 to fucking 1749"? I dunno), this can be expected to ensue with amper-semic codes for dashes, leaving behind markup that AFAI can see cannot be reliably interpreted without a ruler or a preview.
3. Almost as a continuation of the previous point, please note that four hyphens are the markup for a horizontal rule. I have heard it asserted (long ago only, i admit) and never denied, that "--" is intended as the markup for an en-dash and (i think) "---" as that for an em-dash. If and when that is implemented (i've also not heard why the SMOP is not in place), it could meet objection 2 against these en-dashes (but only when the amper-semics and literal dashes are bot'd into the corresponding multi-hyphen markups).
4. As to LoPbN, there are currently about 40,000 entries in place. One might argue that this de facto standard indicates the guideline is a marginal standard-making effort that has yet to come to grips with its user-community's needs.
5. Those 40K face an expansion to about 200,000 entries, currently at a pilot-run stage. Laboriously converting several dozen is at this point just a futile gesture that disrupts consistency. If you convince User:Alvestrand to make the mergenames bot conform to your conception in time, you'll have converted the de facto standard, making further conversions a step twd, rather than away from, consistency, and thus a big project whose time is at hand, rather than a small and futile disruption. (Hmm, that's not

   Objection 5

   but rather

   Point 5, viz. how to definitively settle this dispute in your favor!

   [smile].)

--Jerzy•t 08:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Cool. Actually, if there's a dispute about it, it won't be resolved in my favor because it's all the same to me. Just wanted to know if I should be typing "-" or "–" when I create such an entry. Guess it doesn't matter. If Alvestrand's script ends up standardizing everything with hyphens or unicode en dashes or purple curlicues, so much the better. -- Muffuletta 16:23, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current mac project collaboration

The current WP:MAC collaboration is Apple II family. Please devote some time to improve this article to featured status. — Wackymacs 13:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

[edit] Mantua

Can I take down the copy-edit tag on the Mantua page? (I left a message on the Mantua talkpage.) I won't take it down myself without your permission, because you inserted it in the first place. If there are still awkward sentences needing copy-editing, can you point them out? I am liable to overlook them sometimes, but am satisfied the article has greatly improved. Rintrah 12:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't take down the tag; another user did. I think the original article was conceived well but needed editing for better sentence flow and clarity—that is, copyediting. Mantua was a minor case for copyediting; I've worked on articles in dire need of it, which gave me a great relief when I saw the result. Sometimes, however, poor articles seem to obstinately refuse copyediting, because the prose is so bad or other users don't appreciate the article being tampered with.

I hope I find other gems like Mantua which I want to come back to. Rintrah 09:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject New Orleans

Hello, I noticed you edited a New Orleans related article. If you wish you can join the new Wikipedia:WikiProject New Orleans. — Staroftheshow86 03:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Great! I'll do that. -- Muffuletta 03:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of [unassessed articles] tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 21:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter

The March 2007 issue of the Biography WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Mocko13 21:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)