Talk:Mr. Capone-E
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This article does not require the parenthetical in the title: I propose moving it to Mr. Capone-e.--Rockero 03:30, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ethnicity
There seems to be a debate over whether Mr. Capone-E is Chicano or Middle Eastern (Pakistani?). What are the sources for this info? Let's have a discussion about this here rather than reverting each other.--Rockero 21:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
http://www.latinrapper.com/featurednews30.html has references to him not being Latino, Mr Capone-E has replied to other beef but chose to not address the Middle Eastern comments. Mr. Capone-E has an Arab real name, he makes a point to not refer to himself as Chicano in interviews, and doesn't dispute references to not being Latino. People only remove the Arab references because they are big fans of his. I'm all for him doing his music, but show me some links in which he says he's Latino and I'll be happy to stop revising the page.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.159.29.213 (talk • contribs).
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- If his government name is Arab, which it is, the burden of proof is on demonstrating that he's ALSO Latino, not on disproving that he's Arab. If you claim that he's discussed throughout media as being Mexican, then please provide links, until then your claims have no merit. It shouldn't be that hard for you to post legitimate sources if you're correct.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.159.29.213 (talk • contribs).
- If his real name is available, we should include it in the article. Also, if he is Pakistani, then his last name should be Urdu, not Arabic (although it is entirely possible that it the name could be Arabic). At any rate, we need sources for any info we include in the article, so in effect, User:68.159.29.213 is correct in that the burden of proof is on you, ChicanoJ, to prove that he is Latino. However, the proof doesn't necessarily have to be a website. If you can give specific data about claims to a Hispanic heritage, that should be enough. Finally, since there is so much debate, we should include who says what about his ethnicity in the main article, in order to minimize further vandalism. I also formatted everyone's comments; I hope nobody minds.--Rockero 05:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- If his government name is Arab, which it is, the burden of proof is on demonstrating that he's ALSO Latino, not on disproving that he's Arab. If you claim that he's discussed throughout media as being Mexican, then please provide links, until then your claims have no merit. It shouldn't be that hard for you to post legitimate sources if you're correct.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.159.29.213 (talk • contribs).
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Maybe he's both. there was immagration from the middle east to mexico incase some of y'all dont know that? Unknown User 16:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Rockero 21:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Tower records just has that as an album description based on his appearance, however, which is swhy they erroneously put Puerto Rican or non-Chicano artists in the Chicano section of stores as well. You give a writer a picture of a brown guy with a shaved head and shades and they're going to write him up as Latin in the description. Plus the NY times doesn't say he's latino, just that he's an artist of Latin Hip Hop (Chicano style rap being a subgenre of Latin Hip Hop).—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.159.29.213 (talk • contribs).
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- yeah it is.--ChicanoJ
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- If he has decided to drop his genre of Chicano rap obvoiusly he is not chicano he is middle eastern.
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Mr. Capone-E's real name is Fahd Azim. He is from Pakistan and he speaks Urdu. His father was a corrections officer. This is at odds with the lyrics of his song where he opens with "I grew up a young brown mexican..".—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Orgulo (talk • contribs).
- It would be great to include this info in the article. Where did you hear/read it?--Rockero 03:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- don't you think someone who knew him back in the day would have came out and said something about him if that was true Orgulo.ChicanoJ 04:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Without getting into specifics, I know that Capone-E is middle eastern, but I don't think his name is actually Fahd Azim. It also seems like a meshing of rumors here, the chicano forums had rumors of Capone himself (not Capone-E) supposedly being a corrections officer.
- a corrections officer, isn't this the rumor for Capone that was started by Capone-E, Capone did deny this unlike Capone-E.. ChicanoJ 05:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Without getting into specifics, I know that Capone-E is middle eastern, but I don't think his name is actually Fahd Azim. It also seems like a meshing of rumors here, the chicano forums had rumors of Capone himself (not Capone-E) supposedly being a corrections officer.
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